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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Add segment resource https://review.openstack.org/452596 | 07:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Add segment property for subnet https://review.openstack.org/452597 | 07:26 |
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| ioggstream | hi@all | 08:30 |
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| ioggstream | how can I create a template so that empty values behave lik project's defaults? | 08:35 |
| ioggstream | The example is here https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/DfhOpcJV9KFs9hfxD6I1PV5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE= | 08:35 |
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| therve | ioggstream, Using conditions maybe | 08:51 |
| ioggstream | therve: checking if I can use conditions on attributes | 08:51 |
| therve | ioggstream, I think you need to define the resource twice | 08:53 |
| therve | You can set the property value conditionally, but not it's existence | 08:53 |
| therve | IIRC | 08:53 |
| ioggstream | therve: yes, thinking about my templates (openshift-on-openstack) are not very plain | 08:54 |
| ioggstream | therve: if I find a clean solution I'll keep in touch | 08:54 |
| therve | ioggstream, What do you mean by plain? | 08:55 |
| ioggstream | therve: I mean easy | 08:55 |
| ioggstream | therve: they do a lot of stuff | 08:55 |
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| ioggstream | therve: fix something, break another | 08:55 |
| therve | Oh yeah not doubt about that :) | 08:55 |
| ioggstream | therve: and a patch should fit everybody's needs | 08:56 |
| therve | Services default are tough to manage unfortunately :/ | 08:56 |
| therve | ioggstream, Let me know if I can help, I'd like to make those templates great :) | 08:56 |
| ioggstream | therve: nope, but Ithink somethig should be done in some way | 08:56 |
| ioggstream | therve: do you openshift? | 08:57 |
| therve | ioggstream, I mean the openshift ones yeah | 08:57 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat master: Supports string values 'none' and 'auto' for networks https://review.openstack.org/407328 | 08:57 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat master: Adds releasenote for 'support-auto-none-special-network' https://review.openstack.org/459197 | 08:57 |
| ioggstream | therve: thx, I'll keep in touch, openshift is very nice | 08:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Use mock for subnet tests https://review.openstack.org/457558 | 14:29 |
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| wacuuu | greetings fellow human! doctor zoidberg here | 14:35 |
| wacuuu | where is the best place to search for help with migration from eucalyptus to openstack? | 14:36 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, i replied to the least minor of your storing-res-attrs comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422983/20/heat/engine/check_resource.py | 17:14 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, unrelated, also added tenacity to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449351/ | 17:15 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: the case I'm thinking of is where you start a second update while the previous one is in progress | 18:09 |
| zaneb | as soon as the resource is unlocked, it's liable to get updated again | 18:09 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, ah, i didn't realize you could update an UPDATE_IN_PROGRESS stack | 18:10 |
| zaneb | only in convergence | 18:10 |
| zaneb | that's why we lock the resources; prior to convergence we had a stack-level lock only | 18:11 |
| zaneb | I'm still trying to figure out where that gets triggered from | 18:12 |
| zaneb | but I suspect if you time it exactly right there's still a chance of hitting an issue even if triggering from the same process can't happen until after the data is written | 18:13 |
| cwolferh | so, if you stipulate you can have two UPDATE_IN_PROGRESS stacks, then you have no guarantee of ordering anyway of when a particular resource gets updated by which traversal | 18:16 |
| cwolferh | you can only be sure they are not locked at the same time | 18:16 |
| zaneb | https://github.com/zaneb/heat-convergence-prototype/commit/fde1fb82cc3dae09ef70cfa83c4f5b946876ce25 | 18:18 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: so the retriggering happens if propagate_check_resource() throws an exception, so in that case we wouldn't try to write the attributes to the database anyway | 18:21 |
| zaneb | that's the good news... I think | 18:21 |
| cwolferh | \o/ | 18:22 |
| zaneb | I think there's still a theoretical issue | 18:23 |
| zaneb | actually, maybe not | 18:23 |
| * zaneb thinks | 18:23 | |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: yeah, I think this can happen http://paste.openstack.org/show/607723/ | 18:33 |
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| zaneb | in practice that should be vanishingly rare, but of course that's another way of saying "impossible to debug" | 18:36 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, need to think on that a minute, but in this particular case, it seems like checking the stack traversal_id in the db is the same as rsrc.stack.traversal_id before storing the attributes would avoid the issue | 18:38 |
| zaneb | cwolferh: I believe that's correct | 18:39 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: actually, I think you can just check the atomic key of the resource, can't you? | 18:43 |
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| nicolasbock | I would like to be able to ssh from one VM to another | 18:45 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, so, at line https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422983/20/heat/engine/resource.py i was being careful to make sure the resource was in complete state (line 2048), but obviously not careful enough because the db resource could have changed... but if we tie the update to atomic_key as you suggest that should work | 18:49 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: hmm, I worry about signals though :/ | 18:53 |
| cwolferh | ah, well they should be worried about just on their own | 18:53 |
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| zaneb | heh, you're suggesting that's broken already? | 18:54 |
| cwolferh | i'm suggesting there are lots of edge cases lurking in there | 18:54 |
| zaneb | true dat | 18:55 |
| zaneb | I added some more comments to the review | 18:56 |
| cwolferh | it's interesting that i always load the cached attribute data. in theory, i think i would only want to load it when (CREATE|UPDATE)_COMPLETE . that would also avoid the issue | 18:56 |
| zaneb | first one is a recap of what we just discussed here | 18:56 |
| cwolferh | (well, sort of) | 18:57 |
| cwolferh | (except that there are stale attributes in the db) | 18:57 |
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| cwolferh | (ignore my last three comments, all makes sense when one looks at resource.state_set() :-) | 19:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed openstack/heat master: deployment_swift_data property for server resources https://review.openstack.org/458975 | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat master: Store resource attributes in the DB https://review.openstack.org/422983 | 22:57 |
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