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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-agents master: Add splay option https://review.openstack.org/458251 | 04:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/heat master: Implement Zun client plugin https://review.openstack.org/429259 | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Remove subunit-trace fork https://review.openstack.org/454292 | 06:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/460041 | 10:36 |
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| therve | ricolin, ramishra: So https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420022/ broke stuff :/ | 11:56 |
| therve | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1685808 is pretty bad | 11:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1685808 in heat "Error validating a port without properties" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Thomas Herve (therve) | 11:56 |
| ramishra | therve: yeah, I thought so after seeing the bug | 11:57 |
| therve | I'm also worried about the MultipleTimes() mocks added in that patch | 11:57 |
| ramishra | may be we can revert it and then fix, if it's difficult? | 11:57 |
| therve | That bug itself is easy to fix | 11:58 |
| therve | just wondering about that patch overral | 11:58 |
| ramishra | it was too big a patch, I was surprised that we don | 11:59 |
| ramishra | we don't have tests for required properties | 11:59 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: we likely have a test for required properties, but not one for a required property with a translation on it | 12:14 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: yep, though I did not clearly mention, I meant required properties with translation:) | 12:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat master: Fix translated required properties https://review.openstack.org/460103 | 13:10 |
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| ricolin | therve thx, that's a bad one | 13:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Norbert Illes proposed openstack/heat master: Add support for Neutron Trunks https://review.openstack.org/442496 | 13:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Norbert Illes proposed openstack/heat master: WIP: Add update support to OS::Neutron::Trunk https://review.openstack.org/458496 | 13:40 |
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| zioproto | hello heat experts | 14:21 |
| zioproto | I have a couple of heat stack in my cloud | 14:21 |
| zioproto | where the user was decommissioned | 14:21 |
| zioproto | and all resources deleted | 14:21 |
| zioproto | except for the heat stack | 14:21 |
| zioproto | I mean an admin operator did not realize that the user was using heat | 14:21 |
| zioproto | so all VMs and all stuff was deleted by hand | 14:21 |
| zioproto | and the user and the project deleted from keystone | 14:22 |
| zioproto | but now the heat stacks are still there in `openstack stack list --all-projects` | 14:22 |
| zioproto | usually when I hack the database to clean up this stuff... I introduce problems that I see only in the future | 14:22 |
| zioproto | what is a reasonble way to delete those extra heat stacks ??? :) | 14:22 |
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| therve | zioproto, I think in this case you have no choice but the database hack | 14:29 |
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| therve | If the project is gone, you have no way to talk to heat to remove the resources | 14:29 |
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| zioproto | the resources were deleted already by a previous admin | 14:36 |
| zioproto | just he did not pay attention that those resources were originally created with a heat template | 14:36 |
| zioproto | I will hack the db then | 14:36 |
| zioproto | thank you | 14:36 |
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| ricolin | guys meeting in 14mins | 14:46 |
| ricolin | feel free to add agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-04-26_1500_UTC.29 | 14:46 |
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| ricolin | zaneb, ramishra, therve, shardy, skraynev, prazumovsky, cwolferh, elynn, spzala, tiantian Meeting time! at openstack-meeting-5 | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat master: Add cached attr decorator to ResourceGroup https://review.openstack.org/446220 | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat master: Add cached attr decorator to template_resource https://review.openstack.org/441475 | 15:28 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: yeah, all servers with 'auto' will use an existing network(though it does not work for existence of more) else create the topology | 16:02 |
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| ramishra | Next ones with 'auto' would use it | 16:03 |
| zaneb | yep | 16:03 |
| zaneb | so it's basically a lazy way of creating one network for every tenant^W project that wants it | 16:04 |
| ramishra | but my point was as we manage all resources we create, so we may not want some created that we would not be able to manage | 16:04 |
| ramishra | though we're leveraging a nova feature | 16:04 |
| zaneb | yeah, I think this is ok because it's what nova does | 16:05 |
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| zaneb | it's not like we *can* manage it even in principle, because you might boot other servers outside the stack that use the same network | 16:06 |
| ricolin | It will be weird if we generate another external resource (which not in template) and manage it? | 16:06 |
| zaneb | ricolin: we sort of do that already with ports. it's sorta weird, but that doesn't bother me ask much as how buggy it is ;) | 16:07 |
| zaneb | I'm saying I don't think we need to do that here though | 16:08 |
| ricolin | zaneb still try to googly `buggy`, but sure agree with you | 16:08 |
| zaneb | buggy as in full of bugs | 16:09 |
| ricolin | zaneb please help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454222/ again when you have free time:) | 16:16 |
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| ricolin | zaneb I forgot that I don't have the abandon right for mitaka, I already leave some message there, and leave it under your power:) | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/heat-templates master: Fix splay config template https://review.openstack.org/460215 | 16:31 |
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| mwhahaha | hey heat folks, -^ the parse error broke tripleo mitaka/newton ci | 16:32 |
| mwhahaha | so if we could get some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460215/ that would be awesome | 16:32 |
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| gfidente | back later | 17:05 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Hey, do you have a moment to discuss some ideas around breaking the stack barrier? | 17:45 |
| shardy | I've been thinking about it in the context of how we improve the speed e.g of the huge TripleO ResourceChains etc | 17:45 |
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| jidar | 10 million resources! | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates master: Fix splay config template https://review.openstack.org/460215 | 18:06 |
| jdandrea | Within a stack lifecycle plugin, I've discovered that calling stack.stack_preview() has a side-effect that prevent nested stack names from being found (because they're generated without suffixes like "-jvedadylthsy" tacked on the end, thus they aren't found later on). Is there a way to generate a preview within the plugin without side-effects? | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/460261 | 18:18 |
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| andreaf | hello heat folks - someone I can talk about heat integration tests and tempest? | 20:19 |
| andreaf | talk to | 20:19 |
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| zaneb | andreaf: you can try, but the people who know more about it than me are usually around earlier in the day :) | 20:34 |
| zaneb | cwolferh: just a few questions remaining on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422983/ | 20:35 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, ack, was just replying | 20:35 |
| zaneb | cool cool | 20:35 |
| andreaf | zaneb: so I've seen there heat integration tests now can run as a tempest plugin as well - only using tempest as a runner really, as auth and clients are different | 20:35 |
| zaneb | andreaf: I believe that's correct | 20:36 |
| andreaf | zaneb: and I was wondering if those tests provide the same coverage as heat tests in Tempest, or if Tempest tests still need to be moved to heat | 20:36 |
| andreaf | zaneb: my goal is to fully remove heat support in Tempest as planned | 20:36 |
| andreaf | zaneb: and I'm worried that for instance the service client (in tempest format) only exists in Tempest, and I think it should live in a plugin somewhere | 20:37 |
| andreaf | zaneb: so that heat and other plugins may discover it and use it | 20:38 |
| zaneb | andreaf: now you're getting into the part I'm not sure about ;) | 20:38 |
| andreaf | zaneb: heh ok - who are the best folks to talk about this? I'm in UTC so earlier in the day works fine for me :) | 20:38 |
| zaneb | I know that ramishra and ricolin are working on in-tree API tests | 20:39 |
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| zaneb | those would be the guys to talk to (they're in India & Taiwan, respectively) | 20:39 |
| andreaf | zaneb: cool thanks I'll try and ping them tomorrow in my morning | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed openstack/heat master: deployment_swift_data property for server resources https://review.openstack.org/458975 | 20:43 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, replied | 20:45 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, maybe too soon. still thinking about the atomic_key case | 20:46 |
| cwolferh | so, the code should probably be doing what i said in that comment, even though it isn't at the moment :D | 20:47 |
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| cwolferh | actually, it might be. attributes unlike resource_prop_data can be updated in place, so i *think* that last sentence is still valid | 20:49 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: the question is whether we need to increment the key, or if we can just check it | 21:06 |
| zaneb | cwolferh: checking that attr_data_id is None is what prevents two things from updating | 21:09 |
| cwolferh | ah, right on the last sentence | 21:11 |
| cwolferh | zaneb, well, it doesn't hurt much to increment the key, i don't think. it may be some protection from un-thought of races | 21:12 |
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| zaneb | cwolferh: so if we do go to acquire the lock and the key has changed because of this, will it retry appropriately? | 21:13 |
| zaneb | I thought we were still assuming that the lock was the only thing that would increment the key | 21:13 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, i was assuming not so that simultaneously metadata signals could be handled appropriately. Like here for one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451917/ | 21:16 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, er, nvm, that's a minor patch | 21:17 |
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| cwolferh | zaneb, specifically, metadata_set() that can be retried does increment the atomic_key outside of a lock | 21:21 |
| zaneb | ok, so we have to handle that already anyway | 21:22 |
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| zaneb | whether we do or not ;) | 21:22 |
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| cwolferh | well, there is the problem where a resource goes to COMPLETE so engine_id is None.. but if a signal was received around the same time it will have the engine_id from the lock which is no longer valid so it won't update the metadata. | 21:24 |
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| cwolferh | actually, it'll pickup the None engine_id on the next attempt... | 21:25 |
| cwolferh | wait, why am i thinking about metadata? :D | 21:26 |
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| zaneb | andreaf: so I think this might replace the tempest test we have: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454222/5 | 22:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat master: Store resource attributes in the DB https://review.openstack.org/422983 | 22:38 |
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