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| kazsh | ricolin: thanks! the release note job error has been cleared, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520889/ | 01:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: WIP Native devstack functional jobs https://review.openstack.org/521236 | 03:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: WIP Native devstack functional jobs https://review.openstack.org/521236 | 06:34 |
| moshele | ramishra: is the failed test is now passing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521506/ ? I think all the failure are not related to the patch | 06:37 |
| ramishra | moshele: yeah looks like | 06:38 |
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| moshele | ramishra: can I get you blessing to merge it in nova | 07:07 |
| ramishra | moshele: sure, if you mean I +1 your patch:) | 07:11 |
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| sdaniel | Hi, I would like to ask some advice or suggestion about a scale down 'problem' | 09:18 |
| sdaniel | If somebody could help me about it, that would be great | 09:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Kien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job https://review.openstack.org/510400 | 09:22 |
| therve | ramishra, I thought we kept functional tests in-tree? | 09:23 |
| therve | sdaniel, Sure go ahead | 09:24 |
| ramishra | therve: Any reason for that? As we expect users to run all tests with tempest, I think we agreed to move all | 09:27 |
| therve | ramishra, Well I didn't agree :) | 09:27 |
| sdaniel | I have a university project where I have to improve the following situation: Normal way behind a load balancer, if an autoscaling group reach thre treshold for scale down (like avg cpu usage less then X%), then then heat will destroy the latest generated instance(s) | 09:27 |
| sdaniel | But | 09:27 |
| therve | ramishra, Functional tests make no sense on old releases. When we fix a bug and write a regression test, it's not meat to pass 2 releases ago | 09:27 |
| therve | Also, it makes it harder to write bug fixes | 09:27 |
| therve | I'm pretty sure that's what we agreed upon at the PTG, but you weren't there | 09:28 |
| ramishra | therve: I think other plugins have scenario tests | 09:28 |
| therve | ramishra, Yeah scenarios are fine. functional is the one I want to keep in-tree | 09:29 |
| ramishra | therve: What's the difference? | 09:29 |
| sdaniel | It is possible that instance has the highest network usage, because it hosts a webserver for videos. During the websession, the Load balancer wont get new request from the client, and the cleint will lose the connection and the video will stop | 09:29 |
| therve | ramishra, scenarios are not bug/regression tests, they are feature tests | 09:29 |
| therve | ramishra, FTR see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg-tempest-plugin | 09:30 |
| therve | "Create the new repo and import API and scenarios tests" | 09:30 |
| therve | "Make the functional tests in heat tree reuse the code from the plugin repository" | 09:30 |
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| ramishra | therve: I think we discussed about it later and agreed to move all, not sure if you were not there during those discussions. | 09:31 |
| ramishra | If we break functional tests we would break api tests too | 09:31 |
| therve | break? | 09:31 |
| therve | I'm talking about new tests, not breaking existing tests | 09:32 |
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| ramishra | I mean if we add a feature like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509760/ | 09:32 |
| ramishra | otherwise it should be manageable | 09:32 |
| therve | Yeah that one was a bad example | 09:33 |
| ramishra | New tests would be for new features or existing features | 09:33 |
| ramishra | And if it's for existing features it would work | 09:33 |
| ramishra | if it's new features we've to find a way to run on > specific release | 09:34 |
| therve | ramishra, See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509921/ for example what I mean | 09:34 |
| therve | There is no way that test works on deployed heat | 09:34 |
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| ramishra | We're not changing to use the plugin for older releases like pike, that's my way of looking at it | 09:35 |
| ramishra | For new releases when we add new tests it would be linked to a feature so we would run api/functional tests for releases beyond that | 09:36 |
| ramishra | Otherwise we can't make the plugin branchless | 09:37 |
| therve | Mokay. | 09:37 |
| ramishra | Other plugins and tests in tempest repo use api microvcersions | 09:38 |
| therve | I still think the workflow for bug fixing is horrible then | 09:38 |
| therve | Yeah but we don't have that | 09:38 |
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| ramishra | I mean that's the reason I never wanted the split but we had no say | 09:38 |
| ramishra | I would not prefer we maintain some tests in-tree and some in the plugin | 09:38 |
| therve | Of course we have a say :) | 09:39 |
| ramishra | And we should not break existing tests and I mentioned that in the mail, but it would work if we don't have heat functional jobs for the tempest-plugin | 09:40 |
| ramishra | If we don't have any fucntional jobs in heat-tempest-plugin, breaking tests would still work and it can be tested with depends on, where the test change merges first | 09:40 |
| therve | To be fair we shouldn't do that | 09:42 |
| therve | At least not too often | 09:42 |
| therve | The last one was borderline, as we could have written the tests to work with both responses | 09:43 |
| ramishra | yes, it would stop us to do those kind of changes, which is good IMO | 09:45 |
| * therve shrugs | 09:46 | |
| therve | Frankly I'm mostly annoyed that we spent time discussing in person at the PTG, to then ignore the discussion | 09:49 |
| therve | Those meetings seem quite useless | 09:49 |
| ramishra | therve: tbh, after PTG we discussed about what tests to keep/move in few weekly meetings too. | 09:56 |
| ramishra | I would not prefer few tests here and few there | 09:57 |
| therve | ramishra, Sure, but I don't need to travel 20h then :) | 09:57 |
| ramishra | but anyway we can still change if we want | 09:57 |
| therve | Well the merge didn't work | 09:57 |
| therve | So there is that :) | 09:58 |
| ramishra | therve: I think that's probably some othe reason may be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519578/ has to go in, I don't know | 09:59 |
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| therve | Maybe yeah | 10:01 |
| ramishra | IMO, this is about trying out and getting to know what works best and decisions can be changed if required, whether taken in PTG or now | 10:02 |
| therve | I'm not arguing that decisions shouldn't be changed. | 10:07 |
| therve | I'm arguing that we don't need to meet in person. | 10:07 |
| sdaniel | Hi, sorry for interrupt you. Any suggestion about my question ? | 10:12 |
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| therve | sdaniel, Did you talk about that one a few days ago? | 10:20 |
| sdaniel | Yes, but I think we did not finish the discussion | 10:24 |
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| therve | Oh I finished it :) | 10:26 |
| therve | sdaniel, You should look into something else, heat won't answer your problem | 10:26 |
| therve | sdaniel, Maybe senlin, I think it has more flexible options wrt to deletion | 10:27 |
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| sdaniel | Because of it a university project, if it really can't solve in heat, I have to explain why. | 10:31 |
| therve | There are various answers to that. Maybe the simpler is that Heat autoscaling support isn't good. | 10:33 |
| sdaniel | Otherwise I have to give opportunites, which idea could work in heat, and aftr that explain why it is not a proper and acceptable way | 10:33 |
| sdaniel | I know that, it does not support it at now. | 10:34 |
| therve | With the current autoscaling support, you can't treat a node differently | 10:34 |
| therve | You can't chose what will be deleted in a scale down | 10:34 |
| therve | So your scenario is just not supported | 10:35 |
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| sdaniel | I know, I know | 10:35 |
| sdaniel | But if there will be a possibilites, to improve the heat functionalities from my side | 10:36 |
| sdaniel | Just show to my university an example that it can be solved | 10:36 |
| sdaniel | That would be an achieved goal from my side. | 10:37 |
| therve | Well you need a way to express "don't delete this node" | 10:38 |
| therve | AWS has a way to do that | 10:39 |
| therve | I don't know what it would mean to implement it in heat though | 10:39 |
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| therve | sdaniel, Otherwise, senlin uses heat, so it's a good thing to look at | 10:40 |
| sdaniel | Ok, I will check senlin too | 10:43 |
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| sdaniel | therve, what If I'm trying to detect, which node should be deleted ? | 10:44 |
| sdaniel | Somehow heat can use this information during the "resize" ? | 10:45 |
| therve | There is no interface to do this right now | 10:46 |
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| flwang1 | therve: sorry for chiming in, i have a question when using magnum + heat | 10:58 |
| flwang1 | therve: i'm using magnum Pike and heat Kilo, and I got this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/627213/ | 10:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient master: Don't preformat stack output show list/map values https://review.openstack.org/521969 | 11:21 |
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| flwang1 | zbitter: i'm using magnum Pike and heat Kilo, and I got this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/627213/ any idea? | 11:32 |
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| ramishra | flwang1: I think the server_image parameter is incorrect https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/stable/pike/magnum/drivers/k8s_fedora_atomic_v1/templates/kubemaster.yaml#L503 | 11:40 |
| ramishra | flwang1: btw, why are you using kilo heat, it's not supported since long time | 11:40 |
| ramishra | flwang1: I think it would be better for you to check with the magnum team | 11:41 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: just because it's sitting in our cloud, and we're trying magnum, i know we should upgrade it anyway, but I'd like to continue my test before the upgrade, that's the background | 11:41 |
| strigazi | ramishra: what is incorrent in the above file? | 11:41 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: strigazi is the PTL of magnum | 11:42 |
| ramishra | strigazi: which file? | 11:42 |
| strigazi | ramishra: https://github.com/openstack/magnum/blob/stable/pike/magnum/drivers/k8s_fedora_atomic_v1/templates/kubemaster.yaml#L503 | 11:42 |
| ramishra | strigazi: I just metioned where it's validating that property picked from the parameter | 11:43 |
| ramishra | and it seems to be using 'id' instead of a valid image id/name | 11:43 |
| strigazi | ramishra: to test quickly we tried with this template: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/627207/ | 11:44 |
| strigazi | shouldn't this ^^ work | 11:45 |
| ramishra | I don't see server_image parameter passed to 'openstack stack create' | 11:46 |
| ramishra | oh sorry it's there | 11:46 |
| ramishra | at the end | 11:47 |
| ramishra | it should work | 11:47 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: so can i get some ideas where should i add log/breakpoint to get more info? | 11:48 |
| strigazi | ramishra: can we use glance v2 with heat kilo? is there such an option? | 11:51 |
| flwang1 | strigazi: i think it depends if that's the root cause | 11:52 |
| ramishra | I think you can check here https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/kilo-eol/heat/engine/clients/os/glance.py#L61 | 11:52 |
| ramishra | what you get there from glance | 11:52 |
| ramishra | strigazi: I think it's using v1 https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/kilo-eol/heat/engine/clients/os/glance.py#L50 | 11:53 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: ok | 11:53 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: yep, it's hardcode with v1, but it should work | 11:53 |
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| ramishra | kilo is too old and not supported;) I would not use pike magnum with kilo heat. | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Huangsm proposed openstack/heat master: ForceDelete Instance https://review.openstack.org/454941 | 11:58 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: thanks, i totally agree | 11:59 |
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| flwang1 | but i just don't want to stop my testing because we're also mixing the other services version, i need to figure out if all of them can work together | 11:59 |
| flwang1 | that's the hard part :( | 11:59 |
| therve | You figured it out? It can't | 12:01 |
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| flwang1 | therve: what do you mean 'it can't'? | 12:09 |
| therve | flwang1, Well using pike magnum doesn't work with kilo heat? | 12:10 |
| flwang1 | therve: i think it doesn't work ;) | 12:11 |
| therve | Yeah that's what I just said | 12:11 |
| flwang1 | but i just want to try to workaround it to continue my test | 12:11 |
| therve | That's not a good idea though :) | 12:11 |
| flwang1 | haha, true | 12:11 |
| flwang1 | i have just workaround above issue, by simply return the image id instead of talk with glance again to get it | 12:12 |
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| flwang1 | ramishra: therve: strigazi: thank you for all your help | 12:13 |
| therve | Also please really make it a priority to upgrade your heat deployed version :) | 12:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat-agents master: Make chef agent tests more reliable https://review.openstack.org/522534 | 12:26 |
| flwang1 | therve: hah, will do | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-agents master: Retry logic for url request in heat-config-notify https://review.openstack.org/519417 | 12:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Translate networks and subnet in cluster template https://review.openstack.org/507331 | 17:59 |
| tellesnobrega | ricolin, hey, can I ask you a couple question on heat templates? | 18:00 |
| ricolin | tellesnobrega, sure | 18:07 |
| tellesnobrega | I'm working with cluster scale down now, and what it basically does it update the heat template with the number of instances on the node group and the stack will update the cluster by removing the last created instance from the node group. What I'm trying to do is to select the instances that will be deleted. | 18:08 |
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| tellesnobrega | do you know of any examples of similar stuff? so I can take a look on how the stack can be done | 18:10 |
| ricolin | Add that resource to your black list and it will remove that instance when scale down | 18:11 |
| ricolin | in resource group properties add removal_policies: | 18:12 |
| ricolin | - resource_list: | 18:12 |
| ricolin | - "2" | 18:12 |
| ricolin | 18:12 | |
| ricolin | removal_policies: | 18:12 |
| ricolin | - resource_list: | 18:12 |
| ricolin | - "2" | 18:12 |
| ricolin | 2 is the index in resource group that I want to delete | 18:13 |
| ricolin | tellesnobrega, ^^^ | 18:13 |
| tellesnobrega | ricolin, thanks | 18:13 |
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| ivve | anyone here using python-flameclient ? | 23:42 |
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