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| therve | ramishra, The etherpad clearly mentioned not moving the functional tests, I'm not sure what you're talking about | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | liyi proposed openstack/heat master: Add environment_files parameter in CREATE_STACK request https://review.openstack.org/524095 | 08:34 |
| ramishra | therve: it mentions moving "scenario" tests, Isn't my statement clear about that? and the justification why we included functional tests too. | 08:34 |
| ramishra | therve: it nowehere says that it was agreed at PTG to include functional tests | 08:35 |
| ramishra | unless I've not read it carefully before sending | 08:36 |
| therve | ramishra, OK but scenario tests are a detail, those are not what Zane was arguing about | 08:36 |
| therve | The point is that the plan was not to move all of the tests | 08:36 |
| therve | And you seem to argue that | 08:36 |
| ramishra | therve: no, I disgree about "but just those tests that test the API and are likely to be used in the trademark program for verifying clouds." | 08:37 |
| therve | That part wasn't clear | 08:38 |
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| therve | Anyway those are a detail, functional tests are the pain point | 08:38 |
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| ramishra | It seems so say that we were driving it in a direction which was never agreed | 08:39 |
| ramishra | which i strongly diagree | 08:39 |
| therve | Well who agreed then? At least Zane and I didn't | 08:41 |
| ramishra | And 'scenario' tests would also have same issues, you can't run the aodh alarm test for pike/ocata as it is. | 08:41 |
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| ramishra | I mean it was discussed it meetings where everyone was present, but whatever | 08:42 |
| ramishra | I thought silence is yes, but may be the assumption was wrong there:) | 08:43 |
| therve | ramishra, Can you link those discussions? | 08:44 |
| ramishra | It's there in the mails | 08:44 |
| therve | ramishra, So the first one is pre-PTG | 08:44 |
| therve | And the 2nd one is not from a meeting | 08:45 |
| therve | At about 6am my time, sorry for not being here :) | 08:45 |
| ramishra | I remember asking after doing the split with the test patch personally. It would be there in the irc log | 08:46 |
| ramishra | Asking you what you think about it | 08:46 |
| ramishra | May be I can dig that too | 08:46 |
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| therve | Anyway | 08:47 |
| therve | We don't have to agree. That's why we have a PTL. | 08:48 |
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| therve | I was against the idea since the beginning. During the PTG, I thought we agreed on a middle ground that I liked better. | 08:49 |
| therve | You did the work and didn't follow that, though ricolin_ somewhat approved it seems | 08:49 |
| ramishra | yeah, it's ok to disagree. Btw, we don't a solution how to keep the functional tests in-tree and run with tempest | 08:50 |
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| therve | OK, that's fair. It mostly depends on what we want to emphasize | 08:51 |
| therve | If keeping them in-tree is important, we'll run them without tempest | 08:51 |
| therve | It's not like it provides much value to us | 08:51 |
| ramishra | and I've my reasons which I discussed more than once and what we did finally, that may not be acceptable now. | 08:51 |
| ramishra | But I think the discussion seems to have started too late which is annoying. | 08:52 |
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| ramishra | but I agree, we should do the right thing, whatever that is | 08:52 |
| therve | Meh | 08:52 |
| therve | I don't think the world will crumble if the goal isn't met | 08:53 |
| ramishra | yep | 08:53 |
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| ramishra | therve: not to drag this further:) but I asked you to look at the test patch here http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23heat/%23heat.2017-10-10.log.html | 09:01 |
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| therve | ramishra, Right but this patch doesn't delete the tests | 09:03 |
| therve | That's the one that threw me off | 09:03 |
| ramishra | The repo that it uses has all the tests | 09:03 |
| therve | Yeah which I didn't look at | 09:05 |
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| ramishra | therve: you've to look at the first patchset of that review which was WIP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508112/1 | 09:05 |
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| therve | I mean if your point is that I had opportunity to know, sure | 09:06 |
| therve | The fact is I have other things to do and I don't really care. I like the status quo very very much. | 09:07 |
| ramishra | yes, everything was on the open and I did ask for opinions too. So I feel it's unfair to say ' I did not know, was not part of discussion etc' | 09:07 |
| therve | And, I had given up on it too. Zane is the one bringing it back :) | 09:08 |
| therve | Yeah, as it's unfair of you to say "We agree on it" | 09:09 |
| ramishra | So, if no one says anything about something that means 'We don't agree'? I thought it's the other way around. Though I mentioned earlier my assumption was probably wrong | 09:10 |
| ramishra | Anyway, let's not drag this further, I'm happy that we would be doing the right thing now:) | 09:11 |
| therve | Well I said something once I noticed | 09:11 |
| ramishra | Anyway | 09:12 |
| therve | If I blame someone it's ricolin_ :) | 09:12 |
| ramishra | therve: I think we should have said 'no' to goal itself at the PTG (I'm repeating this again and again), as we did not know the complexities, whatever tha means:) | 09:14 |
| therve | ramishra, Yeah it didn't feel it was ever an option to be honest | 09:15 |
| ramishra | therve: yes, I think it was an option, If I'm not wrong telemetry team has said no to it | 09:16 |
| therve | Yeah they don't go to the PTG :D | 09:16 |
| ricolin_ | ramishra, therve we was facing the part that we can't just separate the test like what we plan in PTG, the option we have at that WIP point for that issue is to move all, so I did agree to move it with my review. and yes, if this argument can start more earlier will be better to me, but now is better than later | 09:17 |
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| ramishra | ricolin_: yes, we're where we are | 09:18 |
| therve | ricolin_, So the reason we can't separate the tests is because of how tempest works? | 09:18 |
| chandankumar | therve: ramishra we have openstack qa office hour on upcoming tuesday at 09:00 UTC feel free to drop by and share your queries related to tempest plugin split, andreaf and gmann will help to answer your queries | 09:18 |
| therve | chandankumar, At that point I think it's mostly about our internal issues | 09:19 |
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| ricolin_ | therve, I think it's a decision about we needs to separate internal tests from tempest tests | 09:20 |
| ricolin_ | or not | 09:20 |
| ramishra | I've put across my opinion on this in the mail. I'm fine with whatever we decide to do | 09:21 |
| therve | ricolin_, Right, it's fairly important decision. I feel that you need to answer zaneb email about what you think | 09:21 |
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| ricolin_ | therve, agree with you, I already writing my idea and suggestion about this, right now I get stuck with some internal issue, will finish the mail once I'm out of it(which is today) | 09:23 |
| therve | OK cool | 09:23 |
| ricolin_ | I'm fine with whatever the ML's result, and whatever we decided this time, please fine some time to help with tracking it, so we can have more opinions right at the point we discuss and review. I'm happy to do the work for this as well. | 09:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Align tox_install.sh with other projects https://review.openstack.org/524136 | 10:54 |
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| chandankumar | ramishra: hello | 12:01 |
| chandankumar | ramishra: https://github.com/rdo-packages/heat-tempest-plugin-distgit | 12:01 |
| chandankumar | ramishra: heat tempest plugin distgit already available | 12:01 |
| chandankumar | ramishra: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:add-heat-tempest-plugin | 12:02 |
| chandankumar | ramishra: i have the spec ready also | 12:02 |
| ramishra | chandankumar: Hmm.. I had a bug/patch for it yesterday, which seems no one noticed. However, we're still debating on the goal, so we should probably block it if possible. | 12:03 |
| ramishra | Though it seems we may have plugin with some tests, so probably not a big issue | 12:04 |
| chandankumar | ramishra: let's keep the tempest tests in new repo and gabbi tests in heat repo till we sort out the gabbi tempest issue | 12:05 |
| ramishra | chandankumar: there is nothing like tempest tests, we run all tests including gabbi tests with tempest | 12:05 |
| ramishra | however, it's not me only to decide, as I mentioned we're still discussing it. | 12:06 |
| chandankumar | ramishra: yup | 12:06 |
| ricolin_ | chandankumar, there's a ML for this, you can put your concerns on top so all will know:) | 12:07 |
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