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openstackgerritKien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/51040003:24
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openstackgerritKien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/51040003:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Fix reset_stack_status  https://review.openstack.org/52455805:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: [policy in code] part3 (resource types)  https://review.openstack.org/50535806:43
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openstackgerritKien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/51040007:39
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openstackgerritKazunori Shinohara proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Update plugin.sh to resolve a couple of issues  https://review.openstack.org/52593508:12
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therveramishra, Hi, looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523307/09:26
therveramishra, The test you made seems a bit fragile, did you +1 a template id to get a unknown template?09:26
ramishratherve: yes09:29
therveramishra, Any better idea then? :)09:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-dashboard master: Update plugin.sh to resolve a couple of issues  https://review.openstack.org/52593509:30
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ramishratherve: I mean we setup dummy db for every test, so I thought there would be no conflict as such, no?09:31
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therveHum, maybe09:33
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openstackgerritKien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/51040010:32
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ricolinramishra, why we ne:qeds to raise NotFound for all delete actions in sqlalchemy api?10:45
ricolins/ne:qeds/needs/10:46
ricolintherve, ^^^10:47
ramishraricolin: I don't understand the question, which delete action?10:56
ricolinlike in https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L43410:57
ricolinresource_data_get_by_key will raise not found if no such result from query10:58
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ramishrayeah, that seems incorrect to me though, may be it's taken care of in the object layer, I don't know11:02
ricolinI found this error https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/173670611:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1736706 in OpenStack Heat "purge_db failed with non-exists raw_template" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Rico Lin (rico-lin)11:03
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ricolinnot sure if I can ignore not found directly in delete api11:04
ramishraI mean that's in convergence, there is probably a race condition there11:06
ricolinyes it is11:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Ignore resources with non-existent template  https://review.openstack.org/52330711:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Eager-load properties for nested resource list  https://review.openstack.org/52164311:25
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openstackgerritKien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/51040012:09
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ricolinHi all ,meeting in 15mins. feel free to add agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-06_1300_UTC.2912:45
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ricolin#startmeeting heat13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec  6 13:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'13:00
ricolin#topic roll call13:00
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ramishrahi13:01
ricolino/13:01
ricolinzaneb, therve meeting time:)13:01
kazsho/13:01
ricolino/13:01
ricolinkazsh, what you mean by topic -> temporarlly remove admin panel for Heat (heat-dashboard13:03
kazshricolin: current horizon has admin panel for heat apart from orchestration panel group13:03
ricolinoh okay got it13:04
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda13:04
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-06_1300_UTC.2913:04
ricolinmaybe 8:00 is too early US-East13:05
* ricolin never understand the light saving time changes13:05
ramishraricolin: not many around to discuss some important topics13:05
ramishramay be we postpone them to next week13:06
ricolinramishra, we can do others first13:06
zanebo/13:06
ricolinzaneb, good morning!:)13:06
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zanebwe could talk about the tempest goal13:07
ricolinzaneb, on the topics:)13:08
ricolinlet's do that one first13:08
zanebso it is :)13:08
ricolin#topic heat tempest plugin13:08
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zanebso there's been some interesting discussion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/13:09
zanebI'd encourage everyone to go read that13:09
zanebbut the way it's shaping up is it looks like any stuff we leave in-tree should just not be a tempest plugin13:10
zanebwe can meet the goal just by removing the endpoint from setup.cfg13:11
ricolindidn't ready in that review yet, but can't we said that in tree plugin just for CI usage?13:12
zanebwhat we'll need is some way of running the tests from two different sources (plugin repo plus in-tree) in the gate13:12
ramishraI was looking at how many functional tests we've changed in the last six months for any code changes, they are very very few13:12
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ramishrait's mostly adding tests for existing functionality or new tests13:12
zanebricolin: yes, but it can't have a tempest plugin endpoint in setup.cfg. that's what breaks other projects just by having heat installed if we break test discovery13:13
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zanebso a mechanism for running the two lots of tests together is still under discussion13:14
zaneband we'll also need to decide which tests belong where13:14
zanebprobably more should go to the plugin than I originally thought13:15
zanebbecause there are several use cases for tempest other than interop13:15
ricolinzaneb, so if we all agree some tests to go to plugin, that means those test in long term should be branchless, right?13:16
zanebe.g. co-gating, running against clouds to check that they're configured correctly13:16
zanebricolin: tbh I'm not completely convinced that all of those use cases want branchless tests. but we might just have to live with that13:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-dashboard master: Align tox_install.sh with other projects  https://review.openstack.org/52413613:18
zanebanything that is purely testing regression stuff in Heat should stay behind IMO13:18
ricolintotally agree with that13:18
zanebanything with an integration component should _probably_ move to the plugin13:18
zanebI guess I need to make a list, don't I13:19
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ricolinwhat you mean by  integration component13:20
zanebI mean it's testing interaction with some other service13:20
ramishrazaneb: Now that we've created the new repo, we can just see how many tests are creating issues and then move them as we go from the new repo, or as u said we can leave all tests in-tree for now, but we've to manage the changes in both repos.13:22
ramishraor may be if we outrightly can identify what tests to have in-tree and how we test them13:23
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zanebramishra: I'd rather try to identify them ahead of time if possible, so that we don't delete them and lose the git history13:24
ramishramy only concern is managing changes.13:25
chandankumarramishra: hello13:25
zanebyeah, we are in limbo at the moment13:25
zanebwith code in two places13:25
chandankumarfor managing changes you can use depends-on in gerrit reviews13:26
ramishrachandankumar: hi13:26
zanebramishra: we're currently running the tests from the plugin not the repo, is that right?13:26
ricolinzaneb, yes13:26
ramishrayeah from the external plugin repo not in-tree tests13:26
zanebyes, that's what I meant :)13:27
* zaneb was extremely ambiguous13:27
zanebok, so rough plan13:27
zaneb1) identify tests we can safely delete from the heat tree13:28
zaneb2) find a way of running tests from both sources13:28
zaneb3) delete tests that are staying behind from the plugin repo13:28
zanebmeanwhile try to avoid landing changes in only one place, I guess13:29
chandankumaris there any problem with branchless nature of plugin?13:29
ramishrawe've to keep a close watch on patches that modify tests, I can see a few around which make changes to tests in-tree.13:30
ricolinIs it possible that keep common test utils in plugin for tests from both sides?13:30
zanebricolin: yes. that's probably a good idea13:30
* zaneb hadn't thought about that13:31
ricolinthat's something after (3) I guess13:31
ricolinramishra, what you think about zaneb's plan13:32
ramishraricolin: yeah, if we can do 1 & 2 quickly, we'll avoid the mess we're in13:33
ricolinzaneb, how you suggest we start on doing (1)13:33
ramishrabut till we do that we would probably have a hard time landing patches that change tests13:34
* zaneb reluctantly volunteers to take an #action13:34
zanebramishra: agree. unfortunately 1 & 2 are the hard ones. 3 is easy13:35
zanebwell, 1 isn't _hard_. it's just work13:35
ricolinzaneb, we absolutely needs you to in part for 1:)13:36
zaneb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-integration-test-categories13:37
ricolin#action zaneb will help on identify tests we can safely delete from the heat tree13:37
zanebI'll start in there13:37
ramishrafor 2 may be we can probably run the tests without tempest, that means revert to the way we tested before we moved to use tempest plugin13:38
ricolinramishra, yeah, if we can't have a extra plugin for heat CI13:39
ramishraricolin: "extra_plugin"?13:39
ramishraAFAIU, it would not be a tempest plugin13:40
zanebramishra: so the trick will be that we want to discover the tests from the plugin and the tests from the local repo and run them all together using the same unittest run13:40
ricolinI mean like second tempest plugin, but it seems any tempest plugin in tree will not happen:)13:40
zanebbut yeah, it may just be a case of doing everything the old way and not treating the tempest plugin as a tempest plugin in our gate13:41
ricolinzaneb, ramishra any concerns or issues when we not using tempest plugin?13:41
zanebricolin: I like the idea of splitting the plugin mechanism out of tempest, so that we can do test suite plugins without interfering with tempest. that was discussed in the review I linked earlier. we'll see where it goes13:41
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ricolinzaneb, thanks will read that right after meeting13:42
ramishrawe can run them separately at the gate plugin tempest tempest tests + in-tree tests with 'tox -eintegration'13:42
zanebricolin: nope. it appears the plugin mechanism is literally just 50 lines of code that does test discovery13:42
zanebwe can still use tempest-lib stuff from the tempest tree. so really no concerns about how a non-plugin would work13:43
zanebjust a shame we can't use that handy plugin mechanism any more at the moment13:43
zaneb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/13:45
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zanebfor the minutes ^ :)13:45
ricolinso we revert first and see if we like to use tempest-lib further for discover?13:46
ramishrawe don't use tempest-lib stuff I think13:48
zanebtempest-lib isn't for discovery13:48
ramishrawe use python*_clients13:49
ramishrawe just use tempest as the test runner13:49
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ramishrawe're on this one topic for the whole time it seems:)13:52
zanebramishra: I just got schooled about that :) according to tempest folks, tempest is just a test suite and the testrunning is unvarnished unittest/testr13:52
ramishrazaneb: OK, I think I somewhat understood that though13:54
ricolinsounds like our original design:)13:56
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zanebpretty much13:56
zanebwe can definitely move to another topic now if folks want to13:56
ricolinwe might still needs a action here I think:)13:57
ramishrawe did not have the test discovery (with plugin) part though13:57
zanebyeah, and that's the part we will need to figure out13:57
ricolinwe still have few topic to go:(13:58
ricolinI propose we extend this meeting13:58
kazsh+113:58
ramishraricolin: I've to leave in 5 mins13:59
ricolinramishra, NP13:59
ricolinanyway that's do this quick13:59
ricolinwe leave rest topic to next14:00
zanebramishra: which topic would you most like to discuss in the next 5 minutes? :)14:00
ramishrazaneb: I've not added anything to the agenda:)14:00
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ricolinmaybe we go with kazsh's one?14:01
kazshthx!14:01
zaneb+114:01
ricolin#topic temporarlly remove admin panel for Heat (heat-dashboard14:01
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kazshheat-dashboard is almost ready for queens-214:01
zaneb\o/14:02
ricolinkazsh, I will release rest heat to queens-2 today14:02
kazshresolved points horizon guys commented14:02
kazshricolin: thx!14:02
kazshand14:02
ricolinkazsh, is it possible we release heat-dashboard before Friday?14:02
kazshricolin: yep! it's ok even now :)14:03
kazshbut only one thing14:03
kazshI wanna consult with you14:03
kazshas you might know, current horizon has admin func for heat14:03
kazshjust displaying the result of "openstack orchestration service list"14:03
kazshthe list of engine services14:04
kazshmigrate this func is tricky because the code is not in orchestration panel group's code14:05
kazshsomething tightly coupling with other code14:05
ricolinso where these code are right now?14:05
kazshhttps://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/admin/info/tables.py#L25614:06
kazsharound here14:06
zanebkazsh: if that's all it does then I wouldn't worry about it14:06
ramishrabye guys, got to go, will check the meeting notes later14:06
kazshzaneb: thx I'm on same page as you14:06
zanebramishra: thanks o/14:06
ricolinramishra, bye! thanks for your attend!14:06
kazshhorizon guy also has same thought14:07
ricolinkazsh, any plan after this temporary removal?14:07
kazshas heat team, is there any objection on this approach ?14:07
kazshwell14:07
ricolinkazsh, I have no objection on that:)14:07
zanebno objection from me14:08
kazshone of them is saying we should talk about make admin panels as a plugin14:08
kazshprob..next PTG ?14:08
kazshalong with heat-dashboard code, horizon team is preparing this chage https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523402/14:08
kazshtrying to split out all of heat support from horizon repo14:08
kazshalready got one +2 from the core14:08
kazshzaneb: thx:)14:09
kazshhorizon team is waiting for our answer on this14:09
ricolinwe can always have a PTG session for this14:09
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kazshricolin: yep:)14:09
ricolinwe can drop it once we release heat-dashboard queens-2 IMO14:10
kazshyep, the current heat-dashboard code does not have any admin func14:10
kazshand i a few days, 523402 will be merged in horizon side14:11
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kazshok I got a couple of +2 from heat core :)14:11
ricolinso final ask It's fine for me to release heat-dashboard now?14:11
kazshricolin: yes :)14:12
zanebin my experience, at least, ~nobody uses the GUI for admin stuff14:12
kazshzaneb: +114:12
ricolinzaneb, bloody true14:12
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kazshwell I will inform our decision to Horizon team14:12
ricolinkazsh, thanks14:13
kazshthanks ricolin, zaneb :)14:13
ricolinRabi is away now, I guess we can leave rest for next week:)14:13
ricolin14mins ahead:)14:14
ricolin#action rico will release heat today14:14
ricolinthanks you for join:)14:14
ricolinif no question let's end it14:15
kazsh+114:15
ricolin#endmeeting no sounds means no question:)14:15
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ricolinzaneb, do you know we can we fix irc topic...14:16
zanebgood question14:16
ricolinI mean our irc topic is broken for a week:(14:16
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ricolin#endmeeting14:16
zanebricolin: maybe ask in #infra14:17
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ricolinzaneb, yeah, on the way14:17
zaneber, #openstack-infra14:17
ricolinzaneb, I got a question about our DB APIs14:18
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zanebdon't we all14:18
ricolinso I found this issue in gate and try to figure out what's the best way to approch14:18
ricolinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/173670614:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1736706 in OpenStack Heat "purge_db failed with non-exists raw_template" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Rico Lin (rico-lin)14:18
ricolins/approch/approach/14:18
ricolincan we not raise not found exception when we do a delete action in DB API?14:19
ricolinlike in https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L43414:19
ricolin in resource_data_delete(), resource_data_get_by_key will raise not found if no such result from query14:19
zanebtbh I think this is a result of running a very aggressive purge (i.e. purge anything deleted >0 minutes ago) in the test14:20
zaneband it's getting into a race with another test by the looks of it14:21
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ricolina race condition I think14:21
zanebyeah, so in the real world this wouldn't happen14:21
zanebit's annoying, but if we're going to change something it should probably be to make the test less racy somehow14:22
therveFamous last words :)14:22
zaneblol14:22
zanebtherve: people _should_ be using ages higher than 0 minutes14:22
thervezaneb, Right, but it doesn't mean it won't delete the stack you look at14:22
zanebmaybe we should have a warning message if you use 014:23
zanebtherve: it does mean that, doesn't it?14:23
* zaneb will bbiab14:24
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thervezaneb, Looking at this case more closely, the stack is not deleted yet, so the template shouldn't gone15:33
therveIf purge is indeed the thing interfering, it shouldn't15:33
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zanebso there is a bug15:40
therveThere is a suspicious exception later on in the logs15:51
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thervezaneb, Looks like mark_complete is called multiple times16:13
zanebon delete? that's surprising16:14
therveThere is a delete and a concurrent update :/16:16
thervehttp://logs.openstack.org/74/510074/6/check/heat-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2-py35/8f7dd27/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz?#_Dec_04_18_02_32_83436616:16
thervehttp://logs.openstack.org/74/510074/6/check/heat-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2-py35/8f7dd27/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz?#_Dec_04_18_02_27_62158816:16
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zaneboh, ok, that is legit16:18
therveRight, it doesn't seem to handle it properly though16:19
zanebwe cancel the update and then delete the stack16:19
zanebso we expect _an_ exception in that case16:19
zanebjust not the one we're getting apparently16:19
zanebso we need to handle that one as well16:19
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thervezaneb, Shouldn't the thread killed though?16:22
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therveIt seems to go through the update16:22
zanebnot in convergence16:22
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zaneboh, I guess it should be killed when we start the delete16:22
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zanebhonestly, that test should wait for the update to be cancelled successfully before it ends (and causes the stack to get deleted)16:24
zanebotherwise what are we actually testing?16:24
therveWell. That you can delete while update runs? :)16:25
therveNot reliably I guess16:25
zanebif we were planning to test that we should test it in the test code and not only in the cleanup :)16:26
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openstackgerritKien Nguyen proposed openstack/heat master: Change transport_url in grenade-multinode job  https://review.openstack.org/51040016:30
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zigoHi there! I'm trying to debug my tempest setup, and I'm having issues setting-up heat.conf, apparently. Could someone help me by giving me an example hest.conf from tempest?17:07
zigotherve: ^17:07
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/heat master: Build heat.conf reproducibly  https://review.openstack.org/52612617:12
zigotherve: I also would love to get this patch merged, if possible! :)17:13
zigoIt's a one liner ...17:14
zigo(no, I'm not trying to vote for every project... :P)17:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Speed up event listing with nested stacks  https://review.openstack.org/52165117:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Generate correct name for Sahara cluster  https://review.openstack.org/50674917:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-templates master: Add example for using external resources  https://review.openstack.org/41759420:28
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jdandrea_For a WaitHandle (in heat-newton) I get "Can't find role heat_stack_user" ... but don't we no longer need that role in latter versions of heat? Or are there some install steps that might have been overlooked?21:14
jdandrea_(meaning when folks installed heat-newton)21:14
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zanebjdandrea_: yeah, you might have skipped creating the stack user domain + roles in keystone22:16
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