Wednesday, 2017-12-20

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openstackgerritHarald Jensås proposed openstack/heat master: Exclude updated networks - match actual interface state  https://review.openstack.org/47196901:25
openstackgerritHarald Jensås proposed openstack/heat master: Exclude updated networks - match actual interface state  https://review.openstack.org/47196901:39
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52924107:14
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ricolinHi all, meeting in 15mins12:45
ricolinfeel free to add agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-20_1300_UTC.2912:45
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ricolin#startmeeting heat13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 20 13:00:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'13:00
ricolin#topic roll call13:00
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kazsho/13:00
ricolino/13:01
ramishrahi13:01
therveHi13:01
kiennt26o/13:01
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda13:02
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-20_1300_UTC.2913:02
ricolinI got integrationtests and Ceilometer resources13:02
ricolin two topics13:02
ricolinand btw gerrit is quite unstable for now13:04
ricolin#topic Ceilometer resources13:05
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ricolinCeilometer api and client was retired https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522183/13:05
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ricolinNow about our Ceilometer client, Any suggestion on how we deprecate a client plugin?13:05
ramishrawe don't have any ceilometer resources. it's just threshold alarm(AodhAlarm) resource can't be used and cloudwatch without the ceiloemeter api13:07
ramishraricolin: we can probably leave the plugin around and remove it next cycle13:07
ramishraI mean the client plugin13:08
ricolinyeah, that part that I'm also wondering maybe we should directly hidden Alarm resource instead of deprecate it?13:08
ricolin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517189/13:08
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ramishrawe can hide it, but if we want to follow the standard process then...13:09
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ricolinramishra, yeah, I would hope to go for a standard way, but meanwhile it will be a broken deprecated resource right?13:10
ramishrayeah, it would break, but I think people can possibly run older ceilometer with heat and get away, I don't know13:12
ricolinramishra, right, that's a fair point13:12
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit is being restarted due to extreme slowness13:13
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ricolinramishra, So about cloudwatch, deprecate it first as well?13:14
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therveIt's not already?13:15
ramishraricolin: I'm not sure if anyone uses it or it works. I mean the service is deprecated already. I'm fine to just remove it, unless there is any reason13:15
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ricolintherve, I through it still there13:16
ricolins/through/thought13:16
ricolinbut anyway, I think we all agree to just remove it out if it is still there:)13:16
therveI mean I thought it was deprecated already13:17
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ricolintherve, you're right, I forgot about that13:19
ricolinso in action we will deprecate alarm resources13:19
ricolinremove cloudwatch13:19
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ricolinand remove ceilometer client directly in next cycle13:20
ricolinsounds good to all?13:20
ricolinlet's move on:)13:21
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therve+113:21
ricolintherve, thx13:21
ricolin#action we should deprecate Aodh::Alarm resources, remove cloudwatch and remove ceilometer client directly in next cycle13:22
ricolin#topic integrationtests https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ci-test-framework+(status:open+OR+status:merged)13:22
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ricolin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ci-test-framework+(status:open+OR+status:merged)13:22
ricolinI have propose patches for change integration tests13:23
ramishraricolin: do we still want to call the in-tree tests 'integration tests'? functional/regression would probably be better name?13:23
ricolinramishra, sure but any suggestion with just one word?13:24
ricolinI don't like to call it in-tree as well:)13:25
ramishraI would just call them 'functional' tests13:25
ricolinokay13:25
ricolinI will change it13:25
ricolinI current propose add first two categorize to plugin13:27
ricolinand directly use tox to run tests for functional tests as we usually do in heat13:27
ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-integration-test-categories13:28
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ramishraAlso I think it would be better to revive(leave the tests in-tree) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521263/ after we've the way to test all tests in-tree13:28
ramishrabut anyway13:29
ricolinramishra, yeah, you can integrate that with rest patch if you like13:31
ramishraI think we can also truncate the config for in-tree tests, but that can probably be done later13:32
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ricolinI think it's good idea13:32
ramishraAs we expect those to be only used for gate testing, we can possibly do whatever changes we want13:34
ricolinramishra, yeah13:34
ricolinLet's land and settle down current tests so other patch can go on13:34
ricolinlike on multinode grenda job patch is currently block by this13:35
ricolins/grenda/grenade/13:35
ramishrawhy? I think genade jobs should only use tests from heat-tempest-plugin13:36
ricolinramishra, oh, I mean block by when we try to decide where tests should locale at13:37
ricolinuse tests from plugin +113:37
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ricolin#action please help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ci-test-framework+(status:open+OR+status:merged)13:38
ricolinIt will be better if we can done this this week13:39
ricolinso it will catch up with interop team's plan13:39
ricolinAnyway, will see13:39
ricolin#topic Open discussion13:40
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ricolinAny to discuss?:)13:40
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kiennt26Nothing from me :)13:41
ricolinkiennt26, thx13:41
ricolinkazsh, how's heat-dashboard:)13:41
ramishraricolin: I suggested to just change the flavor used in test_server_signal_userdata_format_software_config, that would reduce the failure rate I think13:42
ricolinramishra, I agree with you on that13:42
ricolinso raw only fail two times this week13:42
kazshricolin: going well :)13:42
ricolinbut 25 times for test_server_signal_userdata_format_software_config,13:43
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ricolinkazsh, cool!:)13:43
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ricolinAnd after few recheck I think it's fine to land fedora 27 image changes13:44
ricolinif that's all, I think we can end the meeting, now:)13:45
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ramishra+113:46
ricolinthx all:)13:46
ricolin#endmeeting13:46
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ramishraricolin: thanks!13:46
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Modify flavor for integration test  https://review.openstack.org/52775414:07
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Allow run tests for both tempest plugin and functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/52848914:36
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Revert "Register heat tempest plugin"  https://review.openstack.org/52849114:36
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove tests for Interop Tests for add-on trademark program  https://review.openstack.org/52856814:36
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove potential co-gating integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/52856914:36
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove AutoscalingLoadBalancerTest and ReloadOnSighupTest  https://review.openstack.org/52857014:36
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: [Test] check un zaqar signal test for integration  https://review.openstack.org/52895714:36
zanebhjensas: ah, I forgot that the caller of that function also depends on the modified old_nets. ick. just leave it then. the problem didn't start with your patch and we can fix it another day14:39
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hjensaszaneb: yeah, sounds good.14:43
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thervezaneb, We didn't really follow through with my update issue, any idea what we should try next time?16:33
therveI wiped out that particular env16:33
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zanebtherve: it's really a question of figuring out how to get into that state16:52
zanebobviously the code is designed under the assumption that we can't16:52
therveYeah16:52
zaneband clearly that asumption was incorrect16:52
therveWell it seems particularly easy because I get it every time I try :)16:53
therveThat's what you call the golden touch16:53
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therveBut nobody in ooo complains, so I don't know16:54
thervezaneb, But do you have an idea why we get into a state where the replacement is in delete complete but the original resource kept?16:57
zanebtherve: I don't. intuitively I feel like rollback might be involved??? but TripleO should never roll back, and I assume you'd have noticed if it were17:01
thervezaneb, Rollback can happen implicitly  on failure though?17:02
zanebwe disable it in TripleO I thought17:02
therveAh that thing17:03
thervezaneb, If it's the case I can't find where17:06
zanebwell we used to disable it, at least. if we didn't then e.g. a failure in the initial deployment of the stack would result in the stack getting deleted again I believe17:11
zanebthe resource that was failing was a ResourceChain, right? How does that even get replaced?? the only circumstances that should happen is if it's explicitly marked unhealthy17:13
zanebtherve: disable rollback is the default in heatclient17:17
zaneband, in fact, in heat-engine as well17:17
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