Wednesday, 2018-01-24

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/53704700:53
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/53704800:54
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/53576601:53
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/52539402:19
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openstackgerritGao Fei proposed openstack/heat master: Replace curly quotes with straight quotes  https://review.openstack.org/53724904:25
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Remove stack watch service  https://review.openstack.org/53466204:59
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Remove db api and tables for CloudWatch  https://review.openstack.org/53608604:59
ramishragate in very bad state, seems infracloud hardware is gone from nodepool?05:06
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ricolinramishra, https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/commit/9764c7f0683b501d15c2d21053a6ff0c0305d50b#diff-d2858c7f05f8f7c792656b414a1a80c505:44
ricolinseems like05:45
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ramishraricolin: I don't know. there seems to be some discussion that a vendor has reclaimed the hardware supposed to be donated;)05:48
ramishrathough I don't know much05:48
ricolinramishra, maybe under maintenance:)05:50
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ricolinramishra, can you review this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521861/06:45
ricolinramishra, thanks:)06:46
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ramishraricolin: notthing is merging atm, let's merge the test removal first06:53
ramishraso many patches in the gate queue06:54
ricolinramishra, I aware of that just that those two patch stuck on the way for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528575/8 :(06:55
ricolinall projects try to land stuff this week06:56
ramishraricolin: we're running double number of tests which is not helping either06:56
ramishraIMO let's merge the test cleanups first and then we can look at the other patches06:57
ricolinlet me rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528575/806:58
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Clear heat inner functionaltests  https://review.openstack.org/52857507:01
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Add tempest ids for functional and scenario tests  https://review.openstack.org/52186107:01
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Add tempest id for api tests  https://review.openstack.org/52910107:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Remove tests for Interop Tests for add-on trademark program  https://review.openstack.org/52856808:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/53601508:35
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openstackgerritKazunori Shinohara proposed openstack/heat master: WIP Add Blazar support to Heat  https://review.openstack.org/53457611:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/53601511:15
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack/heat master: Remove RH1 OVB jobs from configuration  https://review.openstack.org/53737212:31
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weshay|roversshnaidm, I'm here12:45
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sshnaidmheat cores, please merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537372/ - rh1 cloud will be down and we'll run 3d party tripleo jobs instead.13:06
therveDone13:14
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ricolinHi team, meeting in 10 mins, feel free to add topics to agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282018-01-24_1400_UTC.2913:50
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ricolin#startmeeting heat14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 24 14:00:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'14:00
ricolin#topic roll call14:00
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ramishrahi14:01
ricolino/14:01
kazsho/14:01
kiennt26o/14:01
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sshnaidmo/14:02
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda14:02
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weshay|mtgo/14:02
ricolinhi sshnaidm  weshay|mtg :)14:03
ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282018-01-24_1400_UTC.2914:03
ricolin#topic Changes to TripleO experimental CI jobs for Heat (sshnaidm ref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537372)14:05
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ricolinthis is actually landing now14:05
ricolinbut would like to know what's the replace for it14:06
sshnaidmWe remove ovb experimental job that was running on rh1 cloud, because of disabling this cloud and we need to consider adding different job to experimental/non-voting pipeline. We have ovb job in 3d party CI or any of current multinode tripleo jobs14:06
ricolinsshnaidm, ?14:06
ramishraour merge rate is very poor lately, it seems infracloud is gone from nodepool14:06
ricolinsshnaidm, is there any possible for others to see this CI?14:07
sshnaidmricolin, jobs will post to patch "RDO third party" messages with logs of course14:07
ramishrasshnaidm: if the experiemental job expected to break anything, unless removed?14:07
ricolinramishra, bad timing to remove hardware:(14:07
ramishraSo not sure when things would land, though that patch is approved now14:07
sshnaidmramishra, sorry, what do you mean?14:08
ramishraI mean it's an experimenat job, is it voting anywhere?14:08
sshnaidmramishra, no, experimental jobs can't vote14:08
ramishraso it can be removed anytime right?14:08
ricolinand it will only run when we check with experimental14:09
sshnaidmramishra, what does mean "removed"??14:09
sshnaidmricolin, yes, of course14:09
ramishraI mean the jon definition from heat14:09
sshnaidmricolin, also we can add regular non-voting job too14:09
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ramishras/jon/job14:09
ramishraanyway, it's approved now14:10
sshnaidmramishra, any job definition could be removed from heat, I didn't understand the question14:10
thervesshnaidm, Why the job definition hasn't been changed instead?14:10
sshnaidmtherve, it will be different pipeline and different job if we want to use multinode, in case of 3d party the changes will be in 3d party repo, not in heat14:11
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zanebo/14:11
sshnaidmtherve, we just configure in our repo to run job on heat and it will appear in your patches :)\14:11
ricolinzaneb, o/14:11
ramishrasshnaidm: may be I was not clear, my question is what's the hurry for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537372/1/.zuul.yaml ?14:11
therveHum ok14:11
therveramishra, Just cleanup I guess14:12
therveMaking sure it's not referenced anywhere before removing it14:12
sshnaidmramishra, the cloud will be disabled, the pipeline will be disabled, and when running check experimental you'll get a lot of errors I think14:12
thervesshnaidm, Yeah, but check experimental is non voting, so it doesn't matter much14:12
therveAnyway14:12
ramishrasshnaidm: my point was it's not blocking anythng14:13
sshnaidmtherve, yep, it won't break you in any way, but still14:13
sshnaidmramishra, no, no blocking14:13
zanebso what's the replacement when we want to verify changes against tripleo?14:13
sshnaidmzaneb, yeah, this question I'd like to talk about14:13
ricolinsshnaidm, same question as zaneb said14:13
sshnaidmis shardy here?14:14
sshnaidmdo we want to use experimental job or regular non-voting job?14:14
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sshnaidmwe can make multinode job running on all patches, but non-voting (so won't block you)14:14
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sshnaidmand we can set up ovb 3d party job in experimental pipeline, pretty close to what it was before14:15
therveGiven the resource restriction, experimental sounds better14:15
ricolinsshnaidm, that sounds like a lot of work for gate14:15
ramishratherve: +114:15
zanebsshnaidm: in the past that's used up too much resources14:15
ricolintherve, +114:15
sshnaidmwe have new cloud for 3d party and times and resources there are much better14:16
zanebalso the tripleo job is much slower than any of our jobs, so our testing would take twice as long14:16
sshnaidmregular ovb job takes about 1.5 hours14:16
sshnaidmusual multinode job also takes about 1.5-2 hours14:16
ricolinsshnaidm, maybe we can add new job for experiment first and discuss later if we need it to be non voting?14:17
ramishrainfra is struggling at the moment, 1/2 hrs in the queue most of the time, I would prefer to keep it experimental14:17
sshnaidmricolin, ramishra sounds fine for me14:17
ricolinsshnaidm, so any plan or suggestion for the new experimental job? :)14:17
sshnaidmso, I'll submit a patch for new experimental job14:18
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ricolinsshnaidm, cool14:18
sshnaidmricolin, I think will configure both multinode and 1 3d party ovb job in experimental pipeline14:18
sshnaidmso you can choose :)14:18
sshnaidmgreat, thanks all14:18
ricolinsshnaidm, thx:)14:19
ricolin#topic queens-3 release https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-m3-target-patches14:20
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ricolinSo currently we have landed some of patches in etherpad, in order to land more feature changes like new octavia resource, or remove resources like cloudwatch and HARestarter14:22
ricolinI will release at Friday14:22
ramishramay be we skip the tests using fedora image and the PurgeTest to reduce failure rates, therve had suggested that earlier, we probably have no other option14:22
ricolinramishra, therve that's a good idea14:23
ricolinthe gate is currently slow as well14:25
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ramishrathese test cleanup patches are taking forever to merge14:25
zanebramishra: note that that will cause conflicts with the duplicate test removal series14:25
ramishrazaneb: yeah, or force merge those patches first14:26
ricolinzaneb ramishra , I can rebase those cleanup patches to depend on the skip test one if that will make entire process quicker14:27
zanebricolin: I'm not sure it will, because that means restarting the testing on that whole series14:27
ramishralet's keep on rechecking then:)14:28
* zaneb will keep a better eye on the gate today14:28
ricolinwhere we can see the status now14:29
ricolinI can't access zuulv3.openstack.org for the entire day14:29
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kiennt26ricolin: You should try zuul.openstack.org14:29
ramishraricolin: that's gone I think http://zuul.openstack.org/14:30
ramishrayep14:30
ricolinkiennt26, ramishra thx:)14:30
ricolinlet's move on14:31
ricolin#topic PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-rocky-ptg14:31
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ricolingood to know you guys will be there:)14:31
ricolinPlease add topic suggestion14:32
ramishraAre we planning for migrate to storyboard like other projects, may be a topic?14:33
ricolinwhich we can decide if that's goals for rocky14:33
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ricolinzaneb, therve thought?14:33
ricolinwhat's been accept as community goals are14:34
ricolinMigration to StoryBoard14:34
ricolinRemove mox14:34
zanebI'm happy to migrate when they're ready for us to14:34
ricolinEnsure pagination links14:34
ricolinEnable mutable configuration14:34
ricolinCold upgrades capabilities14:35
zanebricolin: have those been accepted, I thought they were just proposals still?14:35
ricolinright, sorry14:35
ricolinthose are current proposed14:35
ramishrawe probably don't need too many community goals with limited contributors14:36
ricolinramishra, +114:36
ricolinAny of those propose are interesting to any of you?14:37
ricolintherve, zaneb ramishra ?14:37
zanebI'm interested in someone (not me) removing mox :)14:37
ramishraricolin: we already have cold upgrade14:38
ricolinramishra, yes, and IIRC we have mutable config as well14:38
ricolinfor heat14:38
ramishramox removal would be quite a job I think;)14:39
ricolinAnyone knows in detail for what's current status for storyboard?14:40
ricolinramishra, it is, at least override 14 python file14:40
ramishraI think it's being evaluated by some project teams, I know abt tripleo doing it14:41
ramishrathere are some feature partiy concerns wrt LP14:41
ricolinramishra, so that means we will not use launchpad at all?14:42
ramishraricolin: yeah, that's my understanding14:42
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ricolin#action ricolin will see more detail about storyboard14:42
ramishramay be only for blueprints and not for bugs though14:43
zanebif it's accepted as a goal then we're migrating bugs too14:43
ricolinkiennt26, also shouldn't you add dashboard topic?:)14:43
zanebhave to do it before launchpad hits 2000000th bug otherwise bad stuff will happen :D14:43
ricolincurrently 174502414:44
ricolin:)14:44
kiennt26ricolin: I think kazsh is the man who in chair dashboard topic :) I'm working on upgrade patches.14:45
ricolinkiennt26, sorry, tag wrong name here :(14:45
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kazshricolin: the dashboard has around 25 bugs which took over from horizon team, not sure it is better way to go together with heat14:46
kazshkiennt26: thx following up:)14:46
ricolin#action please add topics(goals) to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-rocky-ptg14:46
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ricolinkazsh, for current bugs better settle with horizon team:)14:47
ricolinmove on:)14:48
ricolin#topic Remove heat agents in heat template repo14:48
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ricolinIs it possible to remove heat-agents in heat-templates in queens?14:49
ricolin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489893/14:49
ricolinin that way, we can directly remove those code in above patch instead of adding py35 support for it14:50
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ricolinramishra, therve zaneb thought?14:50
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zanebricolin: heat-templates doesn't have a release cycle, so the concept of 'in queens' is meaningless :)14:51
zanebthat said, I don't see any reason not to just get rid of it now14:51
ricolinI guess we can just do it, possibly no one depends on it:)14:52
ramishrayeah, it's been a year since we created the separate repo for heat-agents14:52
ricolinproblem solved:)14:53
ricolin#topic Open discussion14:53
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ricolinAny to discuss?14:54
zanebquestion about heat-tempest-plugin14:54
zanebis it still the plan to make it branchless? or just branchless from Q onwards? or not branchless at all?14:54
zanebbecause we have or are in the process of merging a bunch of stuff that will not pass against older branches14:55
ramishrazaneb: I would say Q onwards, but we've to make sure we've a way to test new resources added for a release14:55
zaneband we have no mechanism to do e.g. api microversioning for the future14:55
ricolinQ onwards if that's fine to all14:56
zanebok14:56
zanebI added topics for the PTG to discuss this further14:56
ramishraLike the tests for octavia resources I've proposed14:56
zanebbut I wanted to find out what the latest thinking was14:56
ricolinzaneb, you mean the microversion's one?14:56
zanebricolin: both14:56
ramishrawe can add some config options for specific features like tempest14:57
ramishraI don't see any other project running stable jobs with tempest plugins14:57
ramishraso not sure how that is expected to work14:57
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ramishrasure, we can discuss that further at PTG, but as of now it's not branchless;)14:59
zanebyeah, I'm still a little worried how we will do stuff like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526480/ in the future14:59
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ramishrazaneb: we should not break those tests in the plugin somehow:)15:00
ramishraor else that's not the place for them15:01
ricolinbest path must be found:)15:01
ricolinanything else?15:02
kazshricolin: can you release heat-dashboard as q-3 in this week?  because we merged some patches since q-2 & now reviewing the last one which will be merged in a day.15:02
ricolinyes we can15:02
kazshricolin: thx! will let you know soon :)15:03
ricolinbut I needs your help, on that15:03
kazshok, what should i do for you ?15:03
ricolinso for new release we should write down more detail about what exactly in this release15:03
kazshyou mean reno ?15:04
ricolinsomething like that, I will give you more detail later15:04
kazshsure, will do according to your guidance :)15:04
ricolinkazsh, cool!15:05
ricolinbefore we end the meeting, anything else?15:05
ricolinif none, thanks all for join zaneb therve ramishra kazsh kiennt26 sshnaidm weshay|mtg15:06
ricolin#endmeeting15:06
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therveThanks!15:07
kazshthank you & good night15:08
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been suffering from a full disk, some mails may have been lost in the last couple of hours. we will now restart gerrit to address ongoing slowness, too15:22
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack/heat master: Add scenario002 tripleo jobs to experimental pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/53746617:45
sshnaidmcores, please review, experimental multinode jobs are was discussed ^^17:46
sshnaidmEmilienM,  shardy ^^17:46
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EmilienMsshnaidm: you know it's useless, we don't build containers on the fly17:54
EmilienMsshnaidm: it's only useful for the undercloud I guess17:55
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sshnaidmEmilienM, so to leave only non-container job?17:56
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EmilienMsshnaidm: no we don't support it in QUeens18:09
EmilienMsshnaidm: we don't support non-containerized services in Queens18:09
EmilienMkeep as it is now18:09
sshnaidmok18:09
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