Wednesday, 2018-04-04

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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Remove mox from test_sqlalchemy_api  https://review.openstack.org/55475300:30
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Support Etcd  https://review.openstack.org/55839305:10
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add SyncPoint Etcd model  https://review.openstack.org/55839405:10
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Move syncpoint from DB to ETCD  https://review.openstack.org/55839505:10
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add Etcd Stack Lock  https://review.openstack.org/55839605:10
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Move Stack Lock from DB to Etcd  https://review.openstack.org/55839705:10
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openstackgerritErik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/heat master: Fixing Senlin incompatibility with openstacksdk 0.11.x  https://review.openstack.org/55871006:39
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/55872007:19
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thervericolin, Hum why are you using etcd directly ? I thought we were going to use tooz08:04
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ricolintherve, need k,v store for syncpoint, and lock with engine steal for stack_lock, once I figure out what exactly we can use (or need to work on) in tooz I will migrate to it08:48
thervericolin, So those are not really up for review?08:48
ricolintherve, d`oh, forget to mark with workflow-1 for those patch after I updated it08:50
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ricolintherve, sorry about that, and no, they're not ready08:51
therveOK cool08:51
thervericolin, The fact that there is an etcd directory makes me wonder what's your migration path :)08:51
therveBut anyway08:51
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add Etcd Stack Lock  https://review.openstack.org/55839609:11
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Move Stack Lock from DB to Etcd  https://review.openstack.org/55839709:11
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ricolinpvc hi back10:33
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zanebramishra: any idea what's happening with the stable/pike gate?13:35
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ricolinzaneb, http://logs.openstack.org/04/555904/1/check/heat-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2/b4ef783/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-23_20_01_01_26962913:45
ricolinI think the tempest remove .testr.conf file13:45
zanebricolin: yeah, ramishra has a patch but it's still failing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550682/13:46
zaneblooks like the grenade part13:46
zanebhe's tried 13 different combinations and none of them have worked :/13:47
ricolinhum :/13:47
zanebricolin: also, why aren't you on holiday? :)13:47
ricolinzaneb, you do know the holiday in China!13:48
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zaneb(I don't really but they show up in our company calendar)13:49
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ricolingonna drive back to hometown later today(in two hours)13:49
ricolinChing Ming Festival13:50
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ricolinzaneb, you're right, it stop in grenade13:53
ricolin Failed to run /opt/stack/new/heat/devstack/upgrade/resources.sh create13:53
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ricolinsame13:54
ricolintempest run --regex heat_integrationtests.api13:54
ricolin2018-04-04 04:55:34.968 | No .testr.conf file was found for local execution13:54
ricolinhttp://logs.openstack.org/82/550682/13/check/grenade-heat/ee6460b/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2018-04-04_04_55_34_08913:54
ricolinzaneb, ^^^13:54
zanebhttps://review.openstack.org/558826 should fix the other failure13:54
ricolinthe wait condition 0 receive one13:55
zanebthe 4/25 received one13:55
zanebricolin: so tempest in the integration tests uses stestr, but tempest in grenade uses testr? wtf...13:56
ricolinzaneb, haha13:56
ricolinthis will be more fun if it happened in 4/1:)13:57
zaneblol13:58
zanebsoftware engineering: where every day is April Fools Day13:58
ricolinzaneb, well, mostly making self looks like a fool!13:59
* zaneb still waiting for the announcement that devstack was just a prank that went too far13:59
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ricolinzaneb, keep your hope, and maybe 4/1 next year:)14:00
ricolinAny one got any thing to discuss today?14:01
ricolinexcept for the stable pike gate or some devstack wish:)14:02
kazshricolin: none from me :)14:02
ricolinkazsh, hi14:02
ricolinkazsh, cool14:02
ricolinkazsh, also they update the speaker already14:03
zanebI thought I did but now I don't remember what it was14:03
ricolinkazsh, you can find it now on web14:03
kazshricolin: thx! I saw my name in the list14:03
ricolinzaneb, well, things happen when you getting older:)14:04
zaneb:P14:04
ricolinzaneb, I push the WIP ETCD patch out now, will try to work on tooz later so we can find way to integrate with it14:06
ricolinright now I'm directly using etcd3gw14:07
ricolinzaneb, also I will start working on Cross stack reference feature now14:08
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zanebricolin: wha? did we discuss that at the PTG?14:17
ricolinwe have some discussion in last PTG14:18
ricolinhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg-cross-stack-reference14:18
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ricolinzaneb, I try to put some idea spec in the end of that etherpad as well14:18
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zanebricolin: why are we proposing to block updates/deletes on the referenced stack?14:28
ricolinjust wrote those today14:28
ricolinAWS won't allow delete a stack when it's referenced14:28
zanebthat's not what it says14:29
ricolin``14:30
ricolinYou can't delete a stack if another stack references one of its outputs.14:30
ricolinYou can't modify or remove an output value that is referenced by another stack.14:30
ricolin``14:30
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zanebok that is what it says14:30
zanebI was reading the bit at the bottom14:31
ricolinzaneb, yeah, I only find those when I look back too14:31
zanebwhich was saying that if you try to delete a VPC when it still has an instance in it, it won't work14:31
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zanebit's wrong to disallow all updates though. only updates that delete the output should be disallowed14:32
ricolinI think the way we can delete, is to set up a delete policy and say leave those referenced resource(don't delete the physical resource) and remove the rest14:32
zanebnooo, that's horrible ;)14:33
ricolinagree with you on update part14:33
zanebpeople use heat in part because it prevents them from leaving stuff behind they forgot about14:34
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ricolinzaneb, if we provide an option like delete_and_leave_referenced which default is False(can't delete), and we can trigger that and say we remove resources from heat, but referenced resource won't actually remove from ex neutron14:36
ricolinAlso question, you can see the example I put in in etherpad, that AWS needs put Export in output, and use Import from another stack. Will it be easier if we just use a function and say import_value:[resource, stack]?14:38
zanebthis whole feature (in cfn) has very high ick factor :/14:39
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zanebricolin: anything where you reference resources inside another stack directly (rather than through an output) is very very bad14:40
zanebaws went even further and don't make outputs available unless you specifically export them14:40
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zanebwhich makes me wonder what we think we know that they don't14:41
ricolinWe can do with Export from output like AWS did14:43
zanebricolin: the reason btw is that as of Pike, we store attributes of resources at the time we create/update them, but we can only do that for attributes we know are referenced. if anything can go read attributes from a resource after the fact then it'll get potentially inconsistent data14:45
zanebthere was a lot of jumping through hoops involved in getting this to work with scaling groups which allow access to arbitrary member attributes through the parent's get_attr14:46
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ricolinzaneb, you mention this because considering which stack will be on the other end of the reference relationship?14:51
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zanebbasically we need to know *in advance* which attributes will be referenced, so we can store them at the proper time14:53
zanebwhich we can do within a template, by looking at other resources, outputs14:53
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ricolinzaneb, when those reference relationship been make, we should only allow it reference to those stack that is under Create/Update complete state14:59
zanebmakes sense15:00
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ricolinAnd when you said store (in `so we can store them at the proper time`), you mean store them just in the stack that as we're doing right now, or you mean store in the now stack15:02
zanebricolin: the former https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422983/15:15
ricolinzaneb, I know about this one, just thought you're talking about extra copy here:)15:20
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Refactor condition expression in Resource.load()  https://review.openstack.org/55891220:00
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