openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Remove mox from test_sqlalchemy_api https://review.openstack.org/554753 | 00:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Support Etcd https://review.openstack.org/558393 | 05:10 |
openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add SyncPoint Etcd model https://review.openstack.org/558394 | 05:10 |
openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Move syncpoint from DB to ETCD https://review.openstack.org/558395 | 05:10 |
openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add Etcd Stack Lock https://review.openstack.org/558396 | 05:10 |
openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Move Stack Lock from DB to Etcd https://review.openstack.org/558397 | 05:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson proposed openstack/heat master: Fixing Senlin incompatibility with openstacksdk 0.11.x https://review.openstack.org/558710 | 06:39 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/558720 | 07:19 |
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therve | ricolin, Hum why are you using etcd directly ? I thought we were going to use tooz | 08:04 |
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ricolin | therve, need k,v store for syncpoint, and lock with engine steal for stack_lock, once I figure out what exactly we can use (or need to work on) in tooz I will migrate to it | 08:48 |
therve | ricolin, So those are not really up for review? | 08:48 |
ricolin | therve, d`oh, forget to mark with workflow-1 for those patch after I updated it | 08:50 |
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ricolin | therve, sorry about that, and no, they're not ready | 08:51 |
therve | OK cool | 08:51 |
therve | ricolin, The fact that there is an etcd directory makes me wonder what's your migration path :) | 08:51 |
therve | But anyway | 08:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add Etcd Stack Lock https://review.openstack.org/558396 | 09:11 |
openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Move Stack Lock from DB to Etcd https://review.openstack.org/558397 | 09:11 |
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pvc | hi | 10:06 |
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ricolin | pvc hi back | 10:33 |
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zaneb | ramishra: any idea what's happening with the stable/pike gate? | 13:35 |
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ricolin | zaneb, http://logs.openstack.org/04/555904/1/check/heat-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2/b4ef783/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-23_20_01_01_269629 | 13:45 |
ricolin | I think the tempest remove .testr.conf file | 13:45 |
zaneb | ricolin: yeah, ramishra has a patch but it's still failing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550682/ | 13:46 |
zaneb | looks like the grenade part | 13:46 |
zaneb | he's tried 13 different combinations and none of them have worked :/ | 13:47 |
ricolin | hum :/ | 13:47 |
zaneb | ricolin: also, why aren't you on holiday? :) | 13:47 |
ricolin | zaneb, you do know the holiday in China! | 13:48 |
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zaneb | (I don't really but they show up in our company calendar) | 13:49 |
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ricolin | gonna drive back to hometown later today(in two hours) | 13:49 |
ricolin | Ching Ming Festival | 13:50 |
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ricolin | zaneb, you're right, it stop in grenade | 13:53 |
ricolin | Failed to run /opt/stack/new/heat/devstack/upgrade/resources.sh create | 13:53 |
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ricolin | same | 13:54 |
ricolin | tempest run --regex heat_integrationtests.api | 13:54 |
ricolin | 2018-04-04 04:55:34.968 | No .testr.conf file was found for local execution | 13:54 |
ricolin | http://logs.openstack.org/82/550682/13/check/grenade-heat/ee6460b/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2018-04-04_04_55_34_089 | 13:54 |
ricolin | zaneb, ^^^ | 13:54 |
zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/558826 should fix the other failure | 13:54 |
ricolin | the wait condition 0 receive one | 13:55 |
zaneb | the 4/25 received one | 13:55 |
zaneb | ricolin: so tempest in the integration tests uses stestr, but tempest in grenade uses testr? wtf... | 13:56 |
ricolin | zaneb, haha | 13:56 |
ricolin | this will be more fun if it happened in 4/1:) | 13:57 |
zaneb | lol | 13:58 |
zaneb | software engineering: where every day is April Fools Day | 13:58 |
ricolin | zaneb, well, mostly making self looks like a fool! | 13:59 |
* zaneb still waiting for the announcement that devstack was just a prank that went too far | 13:59 | |
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ricolin | zaneb, keep your hope, and maybe 4/1 next year:) | 14:00 |
ricolin | Any one got any thing to discuss today? | 14:01 |
ricolin | except for the stable pike gate or some devstack wish:) | 14:02 |
kazsh | ricolin: none from me :) | 14:02 |
ricolin | kazsh, hi | 14:02 |
ricolin | kazsh, cool | 14:02 |
ricolin | kazsh, also they update the speaker already | 14:03 |
zaneb | I thought I did but now I don't remember what it was | 14:03 |
ricolin | kazsh, you can find it now on web | 14:03 |
kazsh | ricolin: thx! I saw my name in the list | 14:03 |
ricolin | zaneb, well, things happen when you getting older:) | 14:04 |
zaneb | :P | 14:04 |
ricolin | zaneb, I push the WIP ETCD patch out now, will try to work on tooz later so we can find way to integrate with it | 14:06 |
ricolin | right now I'm directly using etcd3gw | 14:07 |
ricolin | zaneb, also I will start working on Cross stack reference feature now | 14:08 |
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zaneb | ricolin: wha? did we discuss that at the PTG? | 14:17 |
ricolin | we have some discussion in last PTG | 14:18 |
ricolin | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg-cross-stack-reference | 14:18 |
* zaneb reads up | 14:18 | |
ricolin | zaneb, I try to put some idea spec in the end of that etherpad as well | 14:18 |
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zaneb | ricolin: why are we proposing to block updates/deletes on the referenced stack? | 14:28 |
ricolin | just wrote those today | 14:28 |
ricolin | AWS won't allow delete a stack when it's referenced | 14:28 |
zaneb | that's not what it says | 14:29 |
ricolin | `` | 14:30 |
ricolin | You can't delete a stack if another stack references one of its outputs. | 14:30 |
ricolin | You can't modify or remove an output value that is referenced by another stack. | 14:30 |
ricolin | `` | 14:30 |
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zaneb | ok that is what it says | 14:30 |
zaneb | I was reading the bit at the bottom | 14:31 |
ricolin | zaneb, yeah, I only find those when I look back too | 14:31 |
zaneb | which was saying that if you try to delete a VPC when it still has an instance in it, it won't work | 14:31 |
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zaneb | it's wrong to disallow all updates though. only updates that delete the output should be disallowed | 14:32 |
ricolin | I think the way we can delete, is to set up a delete policy and say leave those referenced resource(don't delete the physical resource) and remove the rest | 14:32 |
zaneb | nooo, that's horrible ;) | 14:33 |
ricolin | agree with you on update part | 14:33 |
zaneb | people use heat in part because it prevents them from leaving stuff behind they forgot about | 14:34 |
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ricolin | zaneb, if we provide an option like delete_and_leave_referenced which default is False(can't delete), and we can trigger that and say we remove resources from heat, but referenced resource won't actually remove from ex neutron | 14:36 |
ricolin | Also question, you can see the example I put in in etherpad, that AWS needs put Export in output, and use Import from another stack. Will it be easier if we just use a function and say import_value:[resource, stack]? | 14:38 |
zaneb | this whole feature (in cfn) has very high ick factor :/ | 14:39 |
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zaneb | ricolin: anything where you reference resources inside another stack directly (rather than through an output) is very very bad | 14:40 |
zaneb | aws went even further and don't make outputs available unless you specifically export them | 14:40 |
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zaneb | which makes me wonder what we think we know that they don't | 14:41 |
ricolin | We can do with Export from output like AWS did | 14:43 |
zaneb | ricolin: the reason btw is that as of Pike, we store attributes of resources at the time we create/update them, but we can only do that for attributes we know are referenced. if anything can go read attributes from a resource after the fact then it'll get potentially inconsistent data | 14:45 |
zaneb | there was a lot of jumping through hoops involved in getting this to work with scaling groups which allow access to arbitrary member attributes through the parent's get_attr | 14:46 |
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ricolin | zaneb, you mention this because considering which stack will be on the other end of the reference relationship? | 14:51 |
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zaneb | basically we need to know *in advance* which attributes will be referenced, so we can store them at the proper time | 14:53 |
zaneb | which we can do within a template, by looking at other resources, outputs | 14:53 |
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ricolin | zaneb, when those reference relationship been make, we should only allow it reference to those stack that is under Create/Update complete state | 14:59 |
zaneb | makes sense | 15:00 |
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ricolin | And when you said store (in `so we can store them at the proper time`), you mean store them just in the stack that as we're doing right now, or you mean store in the now stack | 15:02 |
zaneb | ricolin: the former https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422983/ | 15:15 |
ricolin | zaneb, I know about this one, just thought you're talking about extra copy here:) | 15:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Refactor condition expression in Resource.load() https://review.openstack.org/558912 | 20:00 |
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