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| ricolin | zaneb, :) | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat stable/queens: Use stable constraint for Tempest pinned stable branches https://review.opendev.org/707760 | 03:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Avoid dynamic import from monasca client https://review.opendev.org/700970 | 03:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Enable auto-scaling tests with Monasca https://review.opendev.org/700886 | 03:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient master: tests: Convert 'test_resources' to mock https://review.opendev.org/704969 | 04:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient master: Remove mox usage from test_shell https://review.opendev.org/706937 | 04:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient master: Remove dependency on mox3 https://review.opendev.org/706938 | 04:23 |
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| zaneb | ricolin: thanks! | 05:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat stable/queens: Use stable constraint for Tempest pinned stable branches https://review.opendev.org/707760 | 05:24 |
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| ricolin | zaneb, I think https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:fix-stable-gate+(status:open+OR+status:merged) is ready for review | 05:25 |
| ricolin | queens still need some works, but rocky looks fine | 05:26 |
| ricolin | Also I encounter with dynamic import issue with heat+monasca, so I propose a patch to directly access to monasca v2 client without dynamic import https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700970 | 05:27 |
| zaneb | ok, approved everything except the queens one | 05:33 |
| ricolin | thx | 05:34 |
| ricolin | zaneb, how's everything for you:) | 05:49 |
| zaneb | not bad | 05:49 |
| zaneb | except that I'm up way too late | 05:49 |
| zaneb | that's bad | 05:49 |
| ricolin | yeah, I try to avoid that too, not good for health for sure | 05:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: [stable gate fix] Check if cert_validate is supported https://review.opendev.org/707665 | 06:47 |
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| brtknr | Hey Heat folks, looks like "Magnum::Optional::Cinder::Volume" accepts volume creation without specifying availability_zone but how can we specify empty availability zone? | 09:37 |
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| flwang1 | ramishra: around? | 09:39 |
| ramishra | flwang1: yep | 09:39 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: can you please remind me how to represent None in HOT? | 09:40 |
| ramishra | flwang1: I guess null with parameters work | 09:41 |
| flwang1 | ramishra: cool, thanks | 09:43 |
| ramishra | I vaguely remember some issues with it though, ricolin may know better | 09:44 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 13:32 |
| pas-ha | o/ | 13:35 |
| dpeacock | o/ | 13:35 |
| ricolin | pas-ha, how's going!:) | 13:35 |
| pas-ha | slowly.. no time for anything | 13:35 |
| ricolin | pas-ha, where are your time goes?:/ | 13:35 |
| dpeacock | ricolin: thanks for addressing my backlog items; it's appreciated | 13:36 |
| ricolin | dpeacock, NP, are you available for update those patches? | 13:36 |
| ricolin | huangtianhua is not around anymore, so we need someone to update her patches | 13:37 |
| dpeacock | ricolin: yep - I'm actively working a biiiiig backlog to get these all up to date. FYI, I'm tracking it all here: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/b3qtqyhkg9g1 | 13:37 |
| dpeacock | ricolin: This historical backlog (my name for it) is down to 86 - it was ove 150 when I started this project! | 13:38 |
| dpeacock | ricolin: Doing good! | 13:38 |
| dpeacock | *over | 13:38 |
| ricolin | good to have someone help on that part:) | 13:41 |
| ricolin | We got a lot of `resources.server: Went to status ERROR due to "Message: No valid host was found. There are not enough hosts available` error recently | 13:42 |
| ricolin | like in https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/b6e29734974f405aa41630f36d9817df | 13:42 |
| ricolin | wonder if that's not just race condition issue | 13:43 |
| ricolin | maybe we should set concurrent tempest tests size | 13:44 |
| dpeacock | What exactly do the grenade tests achieve? Please help me understand. | 13:44 |
| dpeacock | Why do we have them? | 13:45 |
| ricolin | it update from previous version to current version of OpenStack and run tests make sure the update breaks nothing | 13:45 |
| dpeacock | Ah ok - I see | 13:46 |
| dpeacock | The name was not indicative of this! :-) | 13:46 |
| ricolin | for master, it will build a train version from devstack, and update it to ussuri(or say master). And finally run tempest tests | 13:46 |
| dpeacock | Ok so it sounds heavy duty - do you think we should just throw more resources at it or increase timeouts? | 13:47 |
| ricolin | dpeacock, it is the name of the test tool https://opendev.org/openstack/grenade | 13:47 |
| ricolin | and apparently they have some fun when naming that tool:) | 13:48 |
| dpeacock | ricolin: :-) | 13:48 |
| ricolin | I think we can give an eye on it and see if it shows up frequently now. If so, I think we can discuss about (IMO) maybe to reduce the concurrent size for tests | 13:50 |
| dpeacock | sounds good | 13:51 |
| dpeacock | Is there anything I can do to help? | 13:51 |
| ricolin | I think help to check together on the root cause of failing cases before recheck will help | 13:53 |
| * dpeacock nods | 13:53 | |
| ricolin | I create a story for that | 13:54 |
| ricolin | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006674 | 13:54 |
| ricolin | feel free to add more task and logs | 13:55 |
| dpeacock | ricolin: thanks | 13:57 |
| ricolin | Also we need to start push features patches if any, before ussuri-3 milestone | 13:57 |
| ricolin | Which is the second weeks of April | 13:58 |
| ricolin | s/weeks/week/ :) | 13:58 |
| ricolin | *in April | 13:58 |
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| zaneb | dpeacock: the real answer is that it doesn't test anything useful, but it was a requirement so we cargo-culted it and then proceeded to forget about the fact that it doesn't test anything | 15:00 |
| zaneb | a useful test would be to create a bunch of stacks, upgrade, then check that we can still do stuff with those stacks | 15:00 |
| zaneb | what we actually do is create a bunch of stacks, delete them, upgrade, then create a bunch of different stacks | 15:01 |
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| zaneb | my favourite is the grenade multinode job, which does the same except on two nodes that can't talk to each other, and only one is upgraded | 15:02 |
| dpeacock | zaneb: ricolin: Considering it's a regular blocker - any ideas on if we can dispose of the tests then? | 15:04 |
| zaneb | sadly no | 15:04 |
| zaneb | we could write real tests for it | 15:05 |
| dpeacock | zaneb: sounds like a project | 15:05 |
| zaneb | that wouldn't help, but it might make it feel more worthwhile :D | 15:05 |
| dpeacock | If it doesn't test anything useful, why is it a requirement? | 15:06 |
| dpeacock | Who set that requirement? | 15:06 |
| zaneb | perhaps the new zuulv3-native grenade will be more stable | 15:06 |
| zaneb | the TC | 15:06 |
| zaneb | obviously they set it hoping people would test useful things | 15:06 |
| zaneb | but we... didn't | 15:06 |
| dpeacock | ok I think that's starting to get a little more clear | 15:07 |
| dpeacock | so maybe either time to use it properly, or change that requirement | 15:07 |
| zaneb | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_supports-upgrade.html | 15:08 |
| zaneb | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_supports-rolling-upgrade.html | 15:08 |
| zaneb | references ^ | 15:08 |
| dpeacock | Good links - thanks | 15:09 |
| ricolin | indeed if we can cover stack scenario over entire upgrade process will be helpful | 15:13 |
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| ramishra | zaneb: I would not go that far to say that it does not test anything useful:) | 15:28 |
| ramishra | 1. It tests that the upgrade works and you can run tests before/after upgrade | 15:28 |
| ramishra | 2. It also creates a stack before upgrade and does a stack show afer upgrade;) https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/devstack/upgrade/resources.sh#L120, though it would be good to test more apis on some existing stacks. | 15:28 |
| ramishra | I would agree that the multinode job is kind of half-baked | 15:28 |
| zaneb | ramishra: oh, I forgot about that! so it does have one real test :) | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Peacock proposed openstack/heat master: Deprecate 'accessIPv4'/'accessIPv6' attributes https://review.opendev.org/481413 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | David Peacock proposed openstack/heat master: Make properties updatable for IKE policy of VPNaaS https://review.opendev.org/444703 | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Deprecate 'accessIPv4'/'accessIPv6' attributes https://review.opendev.org/481413 | 19:43 |
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| dpeacock | zaneb: thanks for showing me how it should have been - appreciated | 19:52 |
| dpeacock | zaneb: always learning :-) | 19:52 |
| zaneb | np. I always think about it from the reader's perspective | 19:53 |
| zaneb | thery're going to see it here: https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/heat/unreleased.html | 19:53 |
| zaneb | so what info do they need for this to mean anything to them. what should they do as a result | 19:54 |
| zaneb | that kind of thing | 19:54 |
| dpeacock | yeah makes sense - I wasn't nearly specific enough | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Make properties updatable for IKE policy of VPNaaS https://review.opendev.org/444703 | 20:24 |
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| zaneb | dpeacock: I tend to assume that only operators will read the 'upgrade' section, so for stuff that affects users I always try to find another section | 20:25 |
| zaneb | openstack as a whole is guilty of assuming that operators are the only users who count, so doing docs for actual users runs into those kinds of impedance mismatches | 20:27 |
| zaneb | but it's ok because ENTERPRISE | 20:28 |
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| dpeacock | zaneb: makes sense - and again your description is way better | 21:35 |
| dpeacock | zaneb++ | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Deprecate 'accessIPv4'/'accessIPv6' attributes https://review.opendev.org/481413 | 23:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Make properties updatable for IKE policy of VPNaaS https://review.opendev.org/444703 | 23:40 |
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