Monday, 2018-03-05

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kata-dev-irc-bot<anne> Reminder that there is an Arch Committee meeting at 8am PT. I'm midflight so won't be joining, but @verytired1 will be. Agenda is at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/katacontainers-2018-architecture-committee-mtgs13:01
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kata-dev-irc-bot<samuel.ortiz> @verytired1 Hey. FYI I get a certificate expired error when reaching katacontainers.io.15:58
gwhaleymeet link is https://zoom.us/j/68425871115:58
gwhaleyI have same cert error - I presume that could be a github thing?15:58
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> same here15:59
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> @jimmy ^^15:59
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kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> so it sounds like we're going to schedule another Arch Committee meeting at the "same" time next week17:08
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> one logistical note is that in the US daylight savings time starts this sunday, so 8am PDT is 1500 UTC rather than 1600UTC which is when the meeting was today17:09
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> really? that’s great. it will be 11pm for me instead of 12am17:10
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> in terms of actions between now and then, i think we need to have the virtcontainers API gaps documented specifically and shared around by the end of this week so people can review17:11
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> i also think one goal should be to exit the meeting next week with a resolution on the virtcontainers import review. it seems like using virtcontainers has been the plan of record for weeks, but some of these discussions are casting doubt on that, and i think that makes it really hard to make concrete progress17:13
kata-dev-irc-bot<raravena80> hi there, couldn't make it to this arch meeting. can you post the recording once its available ? thx!17:13
kata-dev-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> @verytired1 that's a perfect summary of the situation17:21
kata-dev-irc-bot<samuel.ortiz> @verytired1 correct, yes.17:28
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> Also cert should be fixed17:28
pabelangerdarn, I wanted to listen in on your arch meeting this week17:30
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kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> (looks at slack)  - @verytired1 agreed; I ended up cleaning up the etherpad notes a bit and sent copy of it to mailing list.18:13
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> I don't know where / how the recording is managed, I assume someone had to explicitly do this?  I can make sure we do this going forward...18:14
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> but, let me know if anything isn't clear or is misrepresented in the notes.18:14
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> well, I sent the message but "list moderator" needs to approve because apparently I wrote too much.18:16
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> @verytired1 ^ are you the ML administrator?18:19
* gwhaley new it 'install no reboot', but you will have to shut skye, ie and outlook ;-)18:20
gwhaleyheh, wrong window... grrr18:20
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kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> @eric.ernst yep, it's approved now18:28
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> cool.  I'm sure Intel will make me pull it out of a quarantine next :slightly_smiling_face:18:29
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> On the recording side, I noticed right at the end that it wasn't being recorded. This is what happens when I act as a sub optimal @anne stand-in18:29
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Ah, gotcha.  No problem; this is on my radar now too, so between the two (or three) of us, it should be done next time.18:29
kata-dev-irc-bot<verytired1> @eric.ernst ha...I've traded some emails with email admins there to try to get that fixed18:29
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Yeah, thanks for your efforts.18:29
kata-dev-irc-bot<raravena80> @verytired1 np about the recording. Thanks for the notes!19:00
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mcastelinofolks have we make the agent the init process in kata?21:27
mcastelinos/make/made21:27
kata-dev-irc-bot<manohar.r.castelino> @sebastien.boeuf ^^21:29
kata-dev-irc-bot<manohar.r.castelino> s/@jessfraz/kata21:30
kata-dev-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> @manohar.r.castelino we have the code introduced by @laijs to make it so, but it depends on the way the agent is started. If we use systemd, the agent won't be PID 1 and it won't try to do the stuff that needs to be done when run as init21:34
kata-dev-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> depends on the image basically21:34
kata-dev-irc-bot<manohar.r.castelino> @sebastien.boeuf reason I ask is that if we make the agent is the init process, we will lose the possibility of the debug console (unless the same agent supports both modes)21:35
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kata-dev-irc-bot<manohar.r.castelino> i.e. being spawned from systemd and being init by itself21:35
kata-dev-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> @manohar.r.castelino the same agent is supposed to support both modes. I have personally only tried the mode where it is not run as init21:36
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kata-dev-irc-bot<jberkus> so, I'm assuming that I'm not going to be demoing Kata+Kubernetes on Sunday, given22:57
kata-dev-irc-bot<jberkus> since that's the case, can someone give me a summary of how Kata will differ from ClearContainers?  And what the timeline is for Kuberentes support?22:57
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