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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @laijs @bergwolf @xu I am planning to present those slides at today's arch committee meeting: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dbGrD1h9cpuqAPooiEgtiwWDGCYhVPdatq7owsKHDEQ/ | 08:18 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <xu> got it. thanks @samuel.ortiz | 08:27 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @xu Who is 赖江山 ? | 09:46 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <xu> it’s laijs | 09:47 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> Ok, thanks. | 09:47 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> @samuel.ortiz > I believe this could simply be done through a virtcontainers pod configuration. Today, one can already configure pods to not use any proxy or shim at all. Does it (no-shim/no-proxy) work with the kata agent now? | 09:50 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @bergwolf We have not tested it, and it may or may not work. But what I mean is that there are no reasons to define yet another API for those use cases. We can configure virtcontainers to support it. | 10:02 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @xu out of curiosity, is this mandarin (赖江山) ? | 10:05 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <xu> sure | 10:06 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> @samuel.ortiz IIUC the virtcontainers would always rely on external shims to proxy stdio so it seems it does not work yet. But you are right, configure options are also APIs. If we can achieve it with configure options, there is no need for explicit API. We need built-in shim ability to support it. | 10:13 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @bergwolf virtcontainers starts a shim with a given set of parameters and let it handle stdio, it does not *rely* on it, it offloads stdio to it. So if a CRI shim handles stdio directly by directly connecting to an agent gRPC socket (proxied or not), calling virtcontainers with noop_shim will make it not start a shim at all. | 10:24 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> I would expect the kata library to handle stdio to the agent rather than letting CRI shims understand the agent protocol. Do you agree? | 10:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> IWO, there are two steps to support it: 1. be able to configure out standalone shim and proxy 2. built-in shim/proxy ability in the kata library (or virtcontainers) | 10:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> We can refactor kata shim/proxy to expose proper API for the kata library to call, if code duplication is a concern. | 10:33 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @bergwolf Ok, so this would be e.g. a builtin_shim new type for virtcontainers that would basically start a go routine calling into kata shim exported APIs. That makes sense to me. | 10:35 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> cool, thx | 10:35 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @bergwolf Let me add that to the slides. | 10:36 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> @bergwolf See slide 8 | 10:48 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <anne> Reminder that there is an Arch Committee call in 30 minutes! | 14:32 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> Oh, I almost forgot the US moved to daylight saving before us... | 14:33 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <samuel.ortiz> It's usually in 1.5h for me. | 14:33 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <anne> ah, yes, anyone US based will be gripping their coffee extra tight this morning... | 14:34 |
| gwhaley | btw, it is not listed on the web page ... | 14:36 |
| gwhaley | or was not a few hours ago I think | 14:36 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <anne> we need a better solution than that web text for the meetings. looking into the sharable ical solutions y'all posted last week is on my list for this week :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:52 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> @anne - I raised an issue on this so might be good to use that to record findings / thoughts: https://github.com/kata-containers/www.katacontainers.io/issues/52. | 14:57 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <xu> We have stop using daylight for about 30 years, and we are not good at timezone calculation | 14:58 |
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| dims | @annabelleB @anne @james.o.hunt - got a url for the meeting details? | 14:58 |
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| dims | never mind found it :) | 14:59 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <anne> @james.o.hunt fantastic! i'll add some things there | 15:00 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <ydjainopensource> @anne is this meeting going to be recorded? | 15:04 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <anne> @kata @jonolson @tallclair able to join this morning? | 15:05 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @laijs you had an unfortunate typo in your last githuib post ;0 | 16:31 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> @eric.ernst - it made my day! ;) | 16:32 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <laijs> sorry about it。。。 | 16:33 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> :) | 16:34 |
| gwhaley | blame the auto spell corrector :-) | 16:37 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <xu> really cool typo :,) | 16:38 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <xu> Time to have a sleep @laijs, let’s see if any editor will come and do mosaic on it next morning :thinking_face: | 16:41 |
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