Tuesday, 2018-09-25

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kata-irc-bot<yonatan.gefen> Good morning! Quick question: does each Kata VM instance share the resources with the host OS like runc containers do, or do they statically reserve resources (eg blocks of memory) like traditional VMs?14:29
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kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> Hi , it is like traditional VMs but by default the memory is requested as needed, each time there is page fault14:37
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @yonatan.gefen  There is an option to allocate all the pages at boot but not recommended for density14:38
kata-irc-bot<yonatan.gefen> Great! thank you for the information @jose.carlos.venegas.m!14:44
kata-irc-bot<yonatan.gefen> In that case will it also return memory when it is not needed?14:45
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> Not today14:45
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> We will needed to add balloon memory, and probably from the agent request to return14:46
kata-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> or have some kernel patches allowing the guest to return some memory to the host14:47
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> ;P14:48
kata-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> problem with ballooning is the QoS14:48
kata-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> you cannot guarantee to your VMs that they're gonna have the expected resources all the time14:48
kata-irc-bot<yonatan.gefen> Ok thanks everyone!14:49
kata-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> np14:49
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kata-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Hey @yonatan.gefen - keep in mind, some of the memory is indeed shared, but not in the same way as runc.  This is achieved by using things like DAX/nvdimm (utilize host's page cache and diectly pass in the rootfs from the host) and using more active deduplication (through KSM).15:28
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