Thursday, 2018-11-22

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kata-irc-bot<wei.chen> @jose.carlos.venegas.m The latest upstream version and stable v1.3 can work properly for arm6402:46
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kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> weichen: thx for confirm lsm5 send the build to all the architectures :)15:46
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kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> hey there. I have a nice silly (pseudo-Friday thanksgiving) question..... our kata package distro installations - they will automatically add kata as a docker runtime, yes? - and, automatically make it the default? What about k8s - do we automatically install ourselves there as well? /cc @jose.carlos.venegas.m @mvedovati See, told you it was a silly question.... but, I'm not sure if we make this clear in our docs at present...17:23
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> @graham.whaley, yea, that's what is done by default when invoking kata-manager with `install-docker-system`17:25
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> gwhaley: For kubernetes the most automatic way is kata-deploy for an existing running cluster17:25
kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> @mvedovati @jose.carlos.venegas.m - thx. What happens if somebody does an apt or zypper install for instance?17:27
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @graham.whaley oh for that case only kata is installed but not conigured anywhere17:28
kata-irc-bot<jose.carlos.venegas.m> there is not  post install script to configure17:28
davidgilukdo you have a dependency on docker?17:29
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> nope17:29
davidgilukin which case you might get the fun of what happens if you install kata first17:29
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> that's probably the reason why the postinstall is not doing it17:29
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> in the end you can use kata with other container engines17:30
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> so makes no sense to have the package configure them17:30
davidgilukyep, that's why I asked; I have had it running with podman17:30
kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> right - I'm putting some 'user guide' docs together (well, speccing one out, as I think there are many things we don't document well enough in a findable place). Hence the questions :slightly_smiling_face: I'm not sure how well we document installing into docker of k8s if you install just the packages, which, lets face it, is what the distros (err, that'll be you guys ;) ) will probably default to?17:31
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> installing for docker is well documented in the documentation repo17:32
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> and those instructions are then used to generate automatic installation scripts using kata-manager and kata-doc-to-script17:33
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> for k8s....that would depend on what container engine you are using, isnt it?17:34
kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> for k8s, yes, I think so (but I've never looked for the how-to-install-into-k8s stuff yet). thx for docker refs - I can link out to that from my guide :slightly_smiling_face:17:35
kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> mostly I wanted to doc. all the things we either don't really have written down (like the algos for mem and cpu assignment to the VM, translating from the docker or k8s requests), and things like setting up SRIOV, passthrough, DPDK etc. - some of which I suspect only live out in some gists right now.17:36
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> @graham.whaley nice! are you tracking all the things to document somewhere?17:37
kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> marcov - that is the idea. I put a TOC together some weeks ago, and had a spare 1h to start trying to flesh it out. Once I've got a little meat in it then I'll RFC PR it so folks can throw in more items to the toc. I think we have lots of little bits, and I'd like 'one true doc' folks can start off reading to get a good overview of all the bits and then where to find them. If I sometimes struggle to find some of the stuff, well....17:39
kata-irc-bot;)17:39
kata-irc-bot<mvedovati> got it. I case you can also consider kickstarting this in a etherpad/wiki to have people add items quickly17:42
kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> yeah, I've considered if this should be a wiki or a markdown. Sometimes we start as a wiki and then migrate to a markdown once it settles down. I'll post a prelim PR in a minute, and then we can all discuss where to take it...17:50
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kata-irc-bot<graham.whaley> @mvedovati https://github.com/kata-containers/documentation/pull/312 for your delectation. Right, more tomorrow.... unless I need to fix metrics again.... which is quite possible.18:03
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