Wednesday, 2021-01-27

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fidenciojodh: James, I'm sending you a PM on IRC10:02
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kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> http://containerplumbing.org/ This may be interesting for us!14:13
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kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @fidencio @wmoschet Hey have you started with the 5.2 bump for qemu ?15:00
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> I didn't even start with the document for that :slightly_smiling_face:15:01
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> @wmoschet has a PR out there, though.15:01
kata-irc-bot2<wmoschet> @jose.carlos.venegas.m hello! more or less, I did some changes on the files locally and tests it builds QEMU. I pasted the changes on the issue that tracks the work. I was thinking in send a PR as work-in-progress so you guys can say what is missing (or not015:03
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> well, not a PR, but an issue: https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/issues/123815:03
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @wmoschet thanks :slightly_smiling_face:15:04
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> I ask because I got some problems to migrate kata 1.x to stable binaries of qemu and kernel15:04
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> On the migration I found some filesystem tests failing15:05
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> and was wondering to move 1.x as well, dont want to duplicate efforts, actually seen the same hehe need to add ninja to build deps15:05
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> So to move 1.x to stable binaries in 1.x we may need to also move to 5.2, the question here is if it worth it15:06
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @salvador.fuentes @eric.ernst @fidencio ^15:07
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> I sincerely wonder whether it's worth it to generally mve the 1.x to stable binaries.  How much work are we talking about?15:09
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> I already  have 3 PRs to move kernel15:12
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> probable  2 more to move qemu15:12
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> Plus posssible regressions to debug15:12
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> Let me also loop @samuel.ortiz here, as I'd like to hear his opinion15:13
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> Consider we merge it on the main development branch, would you also need that on stable-1.12?15:14
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> Also, will we have a 1.13 release?15:14
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> no15:14
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> this should be just the next release of kata 1.x15:14
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> Okay, so we consider having this as the last bump and we have a 1.13 release15:15
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @fidencio probably until kata 1.x stop support ?15:16
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> @jose.carlos.venegas.m, I need to think, and  I don't have a direct answer now.  I do believe (but hey, it's me personally speaking here) that we may have a 1.13 release and consider that the last one, but we didn't agree on having it or not having it.15:17
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> Or we lock master, in 1.x and we only do releases from stable versions, but I think there are still some people using 1.x out there15:18
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> It feels like those changes are desired and 1.13 would be good to have (as the last one)15:18
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> personally speaking, I think if it's not too much work, well, go ahead.  But I'd like to also hear from @samuel.ortiz and @eric.ernst.15:19
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> (and @xu and @archana.m.shinde, who are not online right now)15:19
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> good, probably @bergwolf or @julio.montes may be interested to share their ideas15:20
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> Shall we move this to the ML? :slightly_smiling_face:15:21
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> make sense, let me send it15:21
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> Thanks!15:22
kata-irc-bot2<samuel.ortiz> @fidencio @jose.carlos.venegas.m Are we wondering if it makes sense to move 1.x to qemu stable binaries?15:22
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kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @samuel.ortiz yeah, given the timeline and importance that 1.x could have (or not)15:23
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> qemu-virtiofs(experimental binary) -> qemu vanilla 5.215:24
kata-irc-bot2<samuel.ortiz> @jose.carlos.venegas.m Is that a low hanging fruit or a significant amount of work?15:24
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @samuel.ortiz it really depends on what kind of problems the CI detects, could be a clean update by just changing the builds scripts.15:25
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> Or become in a long journey, debugging failing test and perf regressions15:26
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> I can give it a try by just giving the bump, and let you know if perf and test are OK15:26
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> I wonder whether it's worth to give it a a "half-day try" and re-evaluate based on that15:27
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kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> at least to see the state and have a better idea of the needed work (in case it's really needed)15:27
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @samuel.ortiz @fidencio I can give it a try and send as part of the mail in ML, so we can take and informed decision15:30
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> I'd really appreciated that, thanks.15:30
kata-irc-bot2<samuel.ortiz> Thanks @jose.carlos.venegas.m. I agree with @fidencio here.15:30
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kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> cool, let me drop a few PRs then15:31
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kata-irc-bot2<eric.ernst> (agreed -- I thought we were going to have a 1.13, and I cut a alpha0 as a result -- timeline I expect that'll be the 'final' 1.13 release)15:54
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kata-irc-bot2<wmoschet> @jose.carlos.venegas.m @fidencio sorry, just returned from meetings + lunch... @jose.carlos.venegas.m should I send the PR to 2.x then we back-port or you doing other other way around ( 1.x -> 2.x)17:26
kata-irc-bot2<wmoschet> ?17:26
kata-irc-bot2<fidencio> @jose.carlos.venegas.m, will evaluate the amount of work needed to do this on 1.x (as in, CI failures, adjustments needed, and what not)17:27
kata-irc-bot2<wmoschet> @fidencio ok, so I will send what I have so far to 2.x...I just remembered I had to drop -O3 from compilation17:41
kata-irc-bot2<jose.carlos.venegas.m> @wmoschet yeah please still send to 2.x I think patches will be basically the same, but we can split work so you can focus on any possible regression the CI finds17:59
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