Wednesday, 2018-04-11

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kata-dev-irc-bot<anne> For in-person work time at the Vancouver Summit, we currently have rooms blocked off on Monday and Thursday. Add these to your schedule if you're planning to be in Vancouver :slightly_smiling_face: https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=kata+containers+development18:06
kata-dev-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> @xu @bergwolf @laijs Will you guys be able to make it to OSS ? I think @xu is coming, but it'd be great to have @bergwolf there too since he's contributing a lot ;)18:12
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> @laijs will be vancouver together with me18:12
kata-dev-irc-bot<sebastien.boeuf> cool !18:13
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> yeah, glad to hear @laijs will be there.18:13
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> @xu - since you're still awake, I have another topic :slightly_smiling_face:18:13
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> There's a lot of interest on the vm factory/template/cache topic.18:14
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kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> We received some initial feedback from an engineer @ msft who wants to join in on the conversation.18:14
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> While I know it exists today on the hyper provided solution, I think we need to view it as a proposal, given some of the concerns with respect to security, etc. Regardless, though, can you guys be prepared to present the proposed solution in the architecture committee on Monday?18:15
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> I want to make sure we plan ahead here, as I want to coordinate additional people being on the call.18:15
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> agree, I think so18:15
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> and I want to make sure we make progress on this so we can agree/make decision on next steps here.18:15
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> (note, I see this is at 5pm).  Also, On yet another topic... since you are still awake ....18:16
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> In talking with @anne - i think we should have arch committee meeting 1x a week while we have so many topics. WDYT?18:16
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> it was painful not having it this week, imo (that was my fault - I wanted to schedule that before ya'll had holiday018:17
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> )18:17
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kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> I can keep going if you don't fall asleep soon, Xu ;)18:18
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> we had several additional arch meetings, and we may call for meetings if needed18:18
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> OK.  I mean we an leave it ad-hoc, but just heads up we may consistently be ad hoc for a bit.18:19
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> If you, @bergwolf and @laijs can confirm for being able to present on Monday, I'd like to update agenda and/or send to kata-dev ML18:20
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> (you can do this too if you want :))18:21
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> I will talk with @laijs next morning and give a brief agenda for it. IIRC, we do have a meeting next Monday, right?18:22
kata-dev-irc-bot<anne> correct, 5pm Pacific time18:22
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> next meaning this coming monday.18:23
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Soemtimes it seems that schedule lines up better when ya'll are at the 7am meeting.  Late night developers :slightly_smiling_face:18:23
kata-dev-irc-bot<anne> if moving it to the 7am/8am time is more convenient for the majority of your team, @xu, we can do that.18:24
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Yeah, I'd be curious to hear their feedback.18:25
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> I need a convenient timezone calculator18:25
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> :)18:26
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> 5pm pacifc --> 8am in prc18:26
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> versus 7am pacific --> 10pm in PRC18:27
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> 7am/8am PT works for @bergwolf and me  better I think, but not for @laijs normally. here’s diversity :,)18:27
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> or 8am -> 11pm (as the schedule currently is)18:27
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> ok.  I just want to make sure that this next call we have an effective / full discussion in the VM templ.18:27
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> to be honest, I'm not clear if this is really necessary for 1.0, as I fear it'll be controversial.  Either way we need a detailed discussion here with all the stakeholders.18:28
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> BTW, I will be in Shanghai this weekend for a conference, and will visit some guys from OCT China :slightly_smiling_face:18:28
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> I think the template feature itself is already be there, and could be enable/disable by configuration. It could be included in easily. If anyone have any concern, it could be disabled. Even in runv/frakti, it is an option.18:32
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Cool, safe travels.  OK, understood.  If its a configurable/additional option, I will question (for the sake of schedule and academically - not something I can decide on myself!) whether it should be tied to an already aggressive 1.0 schedule.18:36
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> Just something to consider?18:36
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> In any event, looking for confirmation for the agenda on Monday.18:36
kata-dev-irc-bot<eric.ernst> I think that volume support is going to quickly become a very important topic too (re: 9p, blockbased, other alternatives)18:37
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kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> It configurable, but that’s what we used in the past two years in production. We will bring this feature to the frakti/kata soon. I think it should be in 1.0.18:40
kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> It is not appreciated if we drop any important feature that already exists in a runtime just because time for review.18:43
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kata-dev-irc-bot<xu> go to bed, and will update about the template presentation next morning18:45
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kata-dev-irc-bot<anne> More things to add to your calendars: If you're at KubeCon EU, we'll be hosting a Kata community happy hour the night before the conference kicks off (May 1) at the Admiral hotel at 6pm. https://katacontainers.io/posts/kata-containers-kubecon-eu/19:12
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