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sdake_ | yo | 01:28 |
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SamYaple | yo yo yo | 03:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed stackforge/kolla: WIP - DO NOT MERGE Add initial config function and keystone support https://review.openstack.org/192544 | 04:11 |
SamYaple | sdake__: you around | 04:14 |
sdake__ | shoot | 04:14 |
SamYaple | Where do you want the augment file and the ansible configuration files to reside? | 04:14 |
SamYaple | /etc/kolla, /opt/kolla? | 04:14 |
sdake__ | i guess /etc | 04:15 |
SamYaple | /etc/kolla/confs/keystone.conf ? /etc/kolla/ansible_conf.yml? | 04:16 |
SamYaple | respectively | 04:16 |
sdake__ | i dont know can we ahve this discussion later | 04:17 |
sdake__ | i dont feel aprticuarly well | 04:17 |
sdake__ | just do what you think is right | 04:17 |
SamYaple | sure. ill just do my own thing | 04:17 |
SamYaple | cool | 04:17 |
sdake__ | we can always change it later | 04:17 |
sdake__ | git review ftw | 04:17 |
SamYaple | so will kolla have an "install" script of some kind? | 04:18 |
SamYaple | to setup these structures correctly? | 04:18 |
sdake__ | i dont even now | 04:19 |
SamYaple | go to bed | 04:19 |
sdake__ | my head hurts so much i can't even think traight | 04:19 |
sdake__ | dentist open tomrorow hopefully they can get me in | 04:19 |
sdake__ | or atleast get me some pain meds that do the job | 04:19 |
SamYaple | stand in front and scream, that always works | 04:19 |
sdake__ | i am gonn ashut down tho ttyl :) | 04:20 |
SamYaple | bai | 04:20 |
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nihilifer | good morning | 06:24 |
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SamYaple | morning nihilifer | 06:26 |
openstackgerrit | Imran Hayder Malik proposed stackforge/kolla: Fix docker-1.7.0 binary download link https://review.openstack.org/194515 | 06:34 |
SamYaple | harmw: can you ack this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191486/ | 06:41 |
inc0 | good morning | 06:46 |
SamYaple | hello inc0 | 06:46 |
SamYaple | inc0: im going to close your database sync tickets in favor of https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1467576 | 06:49 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1467576 in kolla "Add option to skip db sync for all services" [Undecided,New] | 06:49 |
SamYaple | which is fixed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194313/ | 06:50 |
inc0 | ok, makes sense | 06:50 |
SamYaple | i know yours was first, but im going to mark it as a dup to track it in one place | 06:50 |
openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Add option to not run db sync https://review.openstack.org/194313 | 06:50 |
inc0 | I don't care as long as it gets fixef | 06:50 |
inc0 | which it did | 06:51 |
inc0 | and from now on let's -1 patches without this mechanism | 06:51 |
SamYaple | yea it works fine for single node, but is no good for multinode | 06:52 |
inc0 | because ENV stays? | 06:53 |
SamYaple | no for single nodes its ok to run the db_sync at each start | 06:54 |
SamYaple | multi node you potentially change the db while others are using it | 06:54 |
SamYaple | we dont have online db upgrades yet | 06:54 |
* SamYaple crosses his fingers for liberty | 06:55 | |
inc0 | well, its not yet done in nova | 06:55 |
inc0 | and we don't really know how it will work if ported to oslo | 06:55 |
SamYaple | leave me my hope dammit | 06:56 |
inc0 | we've managed to do that with versionedobjects...sort of | 06:56 |
inc0 | so it is possible | 06:56 |
SamYaple | i dont personally have an issue with a small downtime for openstack changes, but it would make Kolla work better to have online db upgrades | 06:57 |
inc0 | well, personally noone does | 07:00 |
inc0 | but its good to aim for no downtime | 07:00 |
inc0 | and there is hell lot of work to acheve that, so we might as well start now | 07:00 |
SamYaple | well not only that, but we can start all of the new containers before upgrading the DB | 07:01 |
SamYaple | so once everything is online _then_ can can upgrade the db | 07:01 |
SamYaple | its got alot of rollback potential | 07:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Imran Hayder Malik proposed stackforge/kolla: Fix docker-1.7.0 binary download link https://review.openstack.org/194515 | 07:02 |
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inc0 | damn, I hate keepalived | 07:23 |
inc0 | script fails, vrrp doesn't migrate | 07:23 |
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inc0_ | SamYaple, I got it working, fun fact, if you have failing script (fail == migrate ip) | 07:35 |
inc0_ | you need to put negative weight | 07:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed stackforge/kolla: Keepalived container https://review.openstack.org/187981 | 07:47 |
SamYaple | inc0_: cool | 07:48 |
SamYaple | so you can fail the scirpt on one and it will migrate | 07:48 |
inc0_ | yeah | 07:49 |
SamYaple | then fail it on the other and it moves back? | 07:49 |
inc0_ | yup | 07:49 |
SamYaple | awesome | 07:49 |
inc0_ | as long as first one comes back on | 07:49 |
SamYaple | good job | 07:49 |
SamYaple | right | 07:49 |
inc0_ | I mean if it won't it still migrate | 07:49 |
inc0_ | because priorities will be same as initial ones, but with threshold | 07:50 |
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SamYaple | paste.openstack.org/show/316081/ | 08:25 |
SamYaple | inc0_: ^ | 08:26 |
SamYaple | thats what i had in mind, that match you? | 08:26 |
openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed stackforge/kolla: :Keystone installation from source https://review.openstack.org/193166 | 08:35 |
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inc0_ | SamYaple, yeah...and also source installs | 08:40 |
SamYaple | inc0_: yup those could be pulled in too | 08:40 |
SamYaple | so well end up with, well, the initial structure of service/Dockerfile | 08:41 |
SamYaple | i thought we were only expanding to centos+ubuntu installes | 08:41 |
SamYaple | but that kinda exploded | 08:41 |
inc0_ | I was thinking | 08:44 |
inc0_ | if it will be too big ifs | 08:44 |
inc0_ | we can if distro == centos and method==source => include centos-source | 08:44 |
inc0_ | or even include centos-base (so yum install python-pip and so on) | 08:45 |
inc0_ | and then depending on method pip install stuff or yum install stuff | 08:45 |
inc0_ | because source install, providing all the packages required are pre-installed (pip for example) | 08:46 |
inc0_ | should be the same as in any ohter distro | 08:46 |
SamYaple | thats reasonable to me | 08:46 |
inc0_ | and we should laverage that | 08:46 |
SamYaple | im working on a docker layer merge script for kolla, so we wont need to keep all the build deps | 08:46 |
inc0_ | we just need to figure out clever way to organize files | 08:46 |
SamYaple | they can be cleaned and the space they used removed | 08:46 |
inc0_ | makes sense | 08:48 |
inc0_ | uhh that keepalived +2 from you was paid in blood | 08:51 |
mstachow | o/ moring all | 08:53 |
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SamYaple | i wanted a complete container | 08:56 |
inc0_ | I don't blame you:P | 08:57 |
inc0_ | just timing was...not too good;) | 08:57 |
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SamYaple | morning mstachow | 08:58 |
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inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193166/ SamYaple pbourke | 09:26 |
inc0 | we need to think how to separate Dockerfiles - yum vs source | 09:27 |
SamYaple | we alread have that in place inc0 | 09:27 |
inc0 | do we? | 09:27 |
SamYaple | docker/centos/source/keystone/Dockerfile | 09:27 |
inc0 | ah, so we need to change path on this review right? | 09:28 |
SamYaple | correct | 09:28 |
inc0 | do we symlink rest of stuff? | 09:28 |
inc0 | like start.sh? | 09:29 |
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SamYaple | yup | 09:31 |
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SamYaple | hey was the midcycle date ever set? | 09:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Stachowski proposed stackforge/kolla: RabbitMQ container with HA support https://review.openstack.org/194578 | 10:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Stachowski proposed stackforge/kolla: RabbitMQ container with HA support https://review.openstack.org/194578 | 10:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed stackforge/kolla: WIP - DO NOT MERGE Add initial config function and keystone support https://review.openstack.org/192544 | 11:07 |
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vbel | good morning/evening everyone | 11:54 |
SamYaple | morning vbel | 11:55 |
vbel | Running "tools/kolla start" stopped with failure on cinder - is it supposed to do so? | 11:55 |
vbel | Error: image kollaglue/centos-rdo-cinder-data:latest not found | 11:55 |
vbel | Call docker-compose -f ./compose/cinder-volume.yml up -d fail | 11:55 |
rhallisey | oh crap | 11:56 |
rhallisey | I need to build that and push it | 11:56 |
rhallisey | oops | 11:56 |
rhallisey | vbel, build it locally | 11:56 |
vbel | rhallisey: ok, no worries, just getting up to speed :) | 11:57 |
rhallisey | no problem, I forgot to actually build and push those images | 11:57 |
vbel | can you explain me please the reason for mariadb double container - why do we need data-only part if the actual storage is host? | 11:58 |
vbel | for me it looks like double mounting overhead | 11:58 |
SamYaple | vbel: its to make sure the database files stay persistent when upgrading the database container | 11:59 |
SamYaple | since we dont mount a folder from the host | 11:59 |
vbel | https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/blob/master/docs/database-container-set.md - does this still apply? probably not :) Just checked compose/mariadb.yml | 12:02 |
vbel | SamYaple: thanks | 12:03 |
vbel | SamYaple: have been confused by docs :) | 12:04 |
SamYaple | rhallisey: cah you ack this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191486/ | 12:10 |
SamYaple | rebase prevented merge | 12:10 |
rhallisey | SamYaple, sure | 12:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Add --prefix to override .buildconf https://review.openstack.org/191486 | 12:12 |
SamYaple | thanks rhallisey | 12:12 |
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vbel | small design question: rhallisey added an option not to run db sync. Would it be better to make a new type of non-ha container that just runs once on upgrade anywhere in cluster? like cinder-config, nova-config, ... | 12:59 |
SamYaple | vbel: I would prefer to handle that bootstrap case in as an environment variable in the container | 13:01 |
SamYaple | but you should see what others think | 13:01 |
rhallisey | ya I'm not sure, I don't know the benefits and downfalls | 13:02 |
vbel | SamYaple: I am ok with either, wonder if it could be cleaner for future updates/upgrades | 13:02 |
SamYaple | im weary of adding a new container for things that can be handled with if switched personally | 13:03 |
vbel | SamYaple: understood | 13:03 |
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kevsi | Hi. I have a general Q re the Docker version Kolla plans to use: do we believe Docker 1.7 will do for Kolla Liberty-3 or is the use of Docker 1.8 planned/foreseen ? Thanks. | 13:33 |
sdake_ | 1.7 has the features we need | 13:37 |
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kevsi | sdake: thanks | 13:40 |
sdake_ | 1.8 will probably be where docker is stable with those needed fetures | 13:40 |
sdake_ | so wymmv ;-) | 13:40 |
kevsi | that's OK, we use kilometres :-) | 13:42 |
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kevsi | and seeing as I'm on a roll: re Ceph (in for Liberty-2 milestone, though not currently started): do we know what version of Ceph is targeted - Firefly/Giant/Hammer ? ( not mentioned on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ceph-container ) | 13:48 |
SamYaple | kevsi: currently no one has started that, but i dont see why that can't be configurable | 13:50 |
SamYaple | Hammer would be targeted because we like new | 13:50 |
SamYaple | but if yo uwant to build your own containers it is easy to change Hammer to Firefly | 13:50 |
SamYaple | I will be doing the ceph containers after hte ansible things if no one else has grabbed it | 13:51 |
SamYaple | sdake_: the ansible review has been updated and it is working in check mode (minus a few missing components) | 13:52 |
SamYaple | I need to figure out how to pull in the gplv3 code | 13:52 |
kevsi | SamYaple: thanks for that.. Default of Hammer sounds good and I will see internally if we need to change config to build earlier versions ourselves (depending on what's currently supported). | 13:58 |
SamYaple | Building and deploying your own images should be seemless | 13:59 |
SamYaple | you will even be able to mix and match when deploying with ansible | 14:00 |
SamYaple | so you can just use ceph with _your_ built images, but consume the kolla images for all the other services | 14:00 |
kevsi | great. thanks. | 14:00 |
sdake_ | who wrote th gplv3 code | 14:01 |
sdake_ | and what gplv3 ode re you speaking on (its purpose) | 14:02 |
kevsi | re gplv3, what's the issue - not tainting the OpenStack Apache License with GPLv3 ? I'm not sure how licensing applies to DockerIImages | 14:06 |
kevsi | with RPMs previously, we assumed deployment as separate RPMs was enough to separate the GPL components from a deployment point of view (and then not to have the libraries linked in was enough for runtime) | 14:07 |
sdake_ | ys er fon yesny lirndr ysinyinh | 14:07 |
sdake_ | yes we dont want license anting | 14:07 |
kevsi | have any previous Kolla Docker projects got arond the GPL tainting issue ? | 14:09 |
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vbel | service_hosts.sh - is it only useful for kubernetes? Does Kolla link (in docker sense) any containers now? | 14:14 |
kevsi | SamYaple: one possible way may be to have an isolated DockerContainer for the GPL portion, and because Kolla code would not be "linked" to this DockerContainer (instead, would use network sconnections/sockets), you might be OK. | 14:14 |
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SamYaple | the gpl code is in the form of ansible modules that are not in a tagged ansible release at the moment | 14:48 |
SamYaple | im unsure of how licenses work | 14:49 |
SamYaple | i do know i never use GPLv3 since its a PITA | 14:49 |
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kevsi | and then they decided GPLv3 wasn't a big enough PITA, and so they created AGPL. you can agree with their overall aim, it's just that it becomes impossible to work with in reality. | 14:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Stachowski proposed stackforge/kolla: RabbitMQ container with HA support https://review.openstack.org/194578 | 15:04 |
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vbel | does anyone run Kolla builds with proxy? I currently workaround the problem with modified base image - added proxy lines to yum.conf and curlrc though that could be not the best solution | 15:23 |
sdake | hey guys sorry i am not providing much leadeship this week, I am in serious pain and really can't think straight | 15:23 |
sdake | I have dentist visit htis morning at 10:30 followed by a endotontist visit at some undefined time | 15:24 |
sdake | after the endotontist + 2 or 3 days, I should be back in good health | 15:24 |
sdake | so until then, please don't as me hard questions :) | 15:24 |
sdake | but srsly, licenses need to be asl2.0 - do whate it take to make it so | 15:25 |
sdake | my recommendation would be to rewrite tehe code | 15:25 |
sdake | vbel define proxy | 15:26 |
sdake | you mean like a firewall proxy? | 15:26 |
vbel | yes, http proxy | 15:29 |
sdake | what is the use case for that precisely? | 15:29 |
vbel | e.g. I cannot run wget/curl/yum without setting http(s)_proxy environment variable | 15:30 |
sdake | why do you need a proxy, is it an internal company process? | 15:30 |
vbel | yep, many have it. | 15:30 |
sdake | vbel sounds likea blueprint - could you file one | 15:31 |
sdake | and I'll set to discussion state | 15:31 |
mstachow | It will be great to have proxy support I think | 15:32 |
mstachow | We also have got similar problems here | 15:32 |
vbel | have done already :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-proxy-to-dockerfiles | 15:32 |
sdake | yes discussion blueprints are for people to discuss in the whiteboard what they thin should be done | 15:32 |
sdake | updtedat https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-proxy-to-dockerfiles | 15:34 |
sdake | mstachow feel free to chime in on the discussion | 15:34 |
mstachow | I will :) ! | 15:34 |
mstachow | anyway, I'm looking for somebody to review our new rabbit-ha container | 15:35 |
mstachow | except Jenkins ofc :) | 15:36 |
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sdake | ok guys gotta get - need ride to the dentist | 15:36 |
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mstachow | good luck sdake | 15:37 |
mstachow | ! | 15:37 |
vbel | good luck! | 15:37 |
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sdake | hey fols | 18:49 |
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_mstachow | how are You sdake? | 18:56 |
sdake | fine | 18:56 |
_mstachow | It's good to see You alive | 18:57 |
_mstachow | :) | 18:57 |
sdake | ya my pain levels are from a 9 to about a 4 now | 18:57 |
sdake | dentist xrayed my teeth my roots ar eall in perfect health | 18:58 |
sdake | so he is sending me to a specialist | 18:58 |
_mstachow | hmm It's good to read that your pain is downgraded | 18:59 |
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sdake | its not good that i still have pain and the dentist doesn't now why | 19:00 |
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_mstachow | but It's lower - it's a progress. I also think that this situation has got some cons | 19:01 |
_mstachow | I've also have hope that your pain will go away soon | 19:01 |
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harmw | is there some architecture or something for how we want to aproach sourcebased containers? | 19:20 |
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sdake | mke one up | 19:22 |
sdake | no need for spec for that | 19:22 |
harmw | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/install-from-source just read that :) | 19:22 |
sdake | sort it out in the reviews | 19:22 |
sdake | refactor as necessary | 19:22 |
loth | SamYaple: you around? | 19:22 |
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harmw | crap, Gerrit took a day off | 20:00 |
harmw | ah | 20:01 |
harmw | server unavailable, puh | 20:17 |
rhallisey | ya it just died on me | 20:17 |
harmw | good excuse to get some sleep :) | 20:18 |
rhallisey | :) | 20:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Add base image for oraclelinux https://review.openstack.org/191013 | 21:58 |
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sdake | finally dr filled a real prespetpion of pain meds | 23:07 |
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vinkman | and now sdake is floating two inches below the ceiling ;) | 23:27 |
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