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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove crux from base Dockerfiles https://review.openstack.org/210776 | 01:30 |
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| sdake | http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/us/new-mexico-french-deaths/index.html | 03:10 |
| sdake | 40 ounces of water, no idea why people don't carry enough water when hiking | 03:10 |
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| sdake | it is the only thing that keeps you alive :( | 03:10 |
| sdake | you could break a leg and if you ahd enough water survive several days in high heat | 03:11 |
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| sdake | when I hike in the desert, I roll with 300 ounces of water | 03:11 |
| sdake | even if I'm going on a 1 mile hike | 03:11 |
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| SamYaple | mmmm water | 04:19 |
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| sdake | morning samyaple | 11:01 |
| sdake | needs approval https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210521/ | 11:03 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210682/2 | 11:03 |
| sdake | pbourke you around? | 11:10 |
| sdake | samyaple have a look here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-dockerfile-template | 11:51 |
| SamYaple | sdake: we don't need to be seperating services until we have everything templated since we are requiring to do this inline with the other serviecs | 11:53 |
| sdake | might as well go in the repo in the correct directories in the first palce | 11:54 |
| SamYaple | thats going to add complications | 11:54 |
| sdake | this isn't just for this blueprint, this is my general feeing for how we should structure our policies | 11:54 |
| sdake | they can go in one directory to start i suppose | 11:55 |
| SamYaple | yea. | 11:55 |
| SamYaple | then it will be really simple to move | 11:55 |
| SamYaple | lets not add all this complication | 11:55 |
| sdake | i want it structured this way long term | 11:55 |
| SamYaple | me too | 11:55 |
| SamYaple | but you also want the templated stuff to be bside the existing | 11:55 |
| sdake | bside? | 11:56 |
| SamYaple | besides* | 11:56 |
| SamYaple | you want them both in the repo | 11:56 |
| SamYaple | lets not complicate this further | 11:56 |
| sdake | the only rason i want both is so devs are not jammed up with buggage from the new docker implementation | 11:56 |
| SamYaple | this isn't going to get this unjammed... | 11:57 |
| SamYaple | youll still have to wait for all the templating | 11:57 |
| SamYaple | this will just make it take alot longer | 11:57 |
| sdake | which will make it take alot longer | 11:58 |
| SamYaple | forcing a structure change too | 11:58 |
| sdake | ya it doesnt havet o be immediate | 11:58 |
| SamYaple | lets use the templating blueprint for templating | 11:58 |
| sdake | i tend to think 6-12 months out | 11:58 |
| SamYaple | then a restructring blueprint | 11:58 |
| SamYaple | i dont agree with seperating infra like that | 11:58 |
| SamYaple | to me core is all of the services needed to build Kolla | 11:59 |
| SamYaple | this isn't openstack core, this is kolla core | 11:59 |
| SamYaple | if we need to name it other than 'core' to avoid confusion we should | 11:59 |
| sdake | wfm | 11:59 |
| sdake | got a name? | 11:59 |
| SamYaple | base | 11:59 |
| SamYaple | basic | 11:59 |
| SamYaple | something like that? | 11:59 |
| sdake | ok but we already have a base which means something | 11:59 |
| SamYaple | fair | 12:00 |
| sdake | so we would hv to rename that one ;) | 12:00 |
| sdake | I want to enforce a structure to help enforce our policies | 12:00 |
| sdake | whatever those policies should be | 12:00 |
| sdake | i took a stab, should probably make a md out ofit | 12:00 |
| SamYaple | essential? | 12:01 |
| SamYaple | essential and contrib? | 12:01 |
| sdake | conyrib is bad | 12:01 |
| sdake | i prefer supp | 12:01 |
| sdake | contrib is ike saying "ya someone contributed this ,but we dont give a shit" | 12:01 |
| sdake | essential is good but long | 12:01 |
| sdake | i like base, lets rename the distro from base | 12:02 |
| SamYaple | common | 12:02 |
| SamYaple | base-->common | 12:02 |
| sdake | atm base is the base distro | 12:02 |
| sdake | i never relally liked that name | 12:02 |
| sdake | how about distro? | 12:02 |
| SamYaple | how about common | 12:03 |
| SamYaple | since thats what it is | 12:03 |
| sdake | we have a common which means something? | 12:03 |
| SamYaple | no | 12:03 |
| sdake | not in the new structure? | 12:03 |
| SamYaple | not that im aware | 12:03 |
| SamYaple | i dont really like base for the required services | 12:04 |
| sdake | cool can you get a log in the etherpad of this conversation | 12:04 |
| SamYaple | i know i suggested it | 12:05 |
| SamYaple | its just not sitting well | 12:05 |
| sdake | reqd? | 12:05 |
| sdake | i'd like something short | 12:05 |
| sdake | naming is hard ;) | 12:05 |
| SamYaple | vital? | 12:05 |
| sdake | we couldl call it "ess" | 12:05 |
| SamYaple | i hate short names | 12:05 |
| SamYaple | very confusing | 12:05 |
| sdake | ya agree 4 is ideal | 12:05 |
| sdake | 4 char words are ideal | 12:06 |
| SamYaple | we wont find a non confusing 4 | 12:06 |
| SamYaple | lets not limit ourselves | 12:06 |
| SamYaple | lets remove all of that from the templaing etherpad | 12:07 |
| sdake | the problem with essential is cinder and swift and heat are not essential | 12:07 |
| SamYaple | thats a restructure blueprint | 12:07 |
| sdake | ya i originally wrote it as a restructure blueprint | 12:08 |
| sdake | but then abanonded that and jammed it in there so it could be done at same time | 12:08 |
| SamYaple | lets not do that | 12:08 |
| sdake | i get what your saying its more complex | 12:08 |
| sdake | so agree we can seaparate the issues | 12:08 |
| SamYaple | its a restructue dependant on the templating being finished | 12:08 |
| sdake | now we are done arguing about that, i'd ike to revisit includes at some point | 12:09 |
| sdake | a distro template with 6+ distros for source and binary is going to be onerous | 12:10 |
| SamYaple | youd be ruining any chance of these being decent docker files | 12:10 |
| SamYaple | 6+ distros that have 2 common sections | 12:10 |
| sdake | i guess i had assumed distros would be 1 file | 12:10 |
| SamYaple | i do _not_ want to have t oopen 5 files to find the line im looking for | 12:10 |
| SamYaple | these Dockerfiles will be marginally larger than they currently are | 12:10 |
| SamYaple | like average of 5-10 lines | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | thats it | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | thats for all distros | 12:11 |
| sdake | so you suggest a separate distro file per distro? | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | no | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | no | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | no | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | one Dockerfile is more than enough | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | why must we have includes? | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | a templated dockerfile is already not best practice | 12:11 |
| SamYaple | but one where you can stil lread through all the options i think we can get away with | 12:12 |
| sdake | i think what would helpl is to see a prototype of the base distro with all the distros included ;) | 12:12 |
| sdake | the centos distro file is a beasat | 12:12 |
| SamYaple | thats going ot be by far the largest one because of the way you guys list the deps | 12:12 |
| sdake | just thinking 6 of those = painful | 12:12 |
| sdake | i think we should stop listing deps as well in that file | 12:12 |
| SamYaple | well thatll change anyway | 12:13 |
| SamYaple | since we have an openstack-base as well | 12:13 |
| SamYaple | or will have one | 12:13 |
| sdake | and that does what | 12:13 |
| SamYaple | galera doesnt need to include all of the python openstack libs and clients | 12:13 |
| SamYaple | basically just moves teh openstack specific stuff up one level | 12:13 |
| sdake | i really dont want the openstack specific stuff in the distro file | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | what? | 12:14 |
| sdake | just the repo additions tbh | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | yea | 12:14 |
| sdake | and any hacks needed to work around delorean packaging | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | anyway look at yaodu | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/SamYaple/yaodu/blob/master/ansible/roles/docker_build/templates/ubuntu/common/Dockerfile.j2 | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/SamYaple/yaodu/blob/master/ansible/roles/docker_build/templates/ubuntu/openstack_common/Dockerfile.j2 | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | that kind of setup | 12:14 |
| sdake | i dont like installing openstack-requirements like that | 12:15 |
| sdake | but otherwise looks fine | 12:15 |
| SamYaple | ignore that | 12:15 |
| sdake | ok | 12:15 |
| SamYaple | we wouldnt do it like that anyway | 12:15 |
| SamYaple | but that wasnt the point | 12:15 |
| SamYaple | that was a 'base' and 'openstack-base' | 12:16 |
| SamYaple | so you greately reduce the size of that dependacy | 12:16 |
| SamYaple | reduce the sze of the base image and mariadb/galera images as well | 12:16 |
| sdake | and keepalive/haproxy/mongodb | 12:16 |
| SamYaple | should lsightly speed up builds too | 12:16 |
| SamYaple | yup | 12:16 |
| sdake | more like infra-base and openstack-base | 12:19 |
| sdake | is your openstack-base pulling from base? | 12:19 |
| SamYaple | yea | 12:23 |
| sdake | rationale? | 12:23 |
| SamYaple | it has shared dependenies | 12:25 |
| sdake | which ones? you mean like c compiler and stuff? | 12:25 |
| SamYaple | python and curl for one | 12:27 |
| SamYaple | then common scripts and what not | 12:27 |
| sdake | python isn't installed in debian by default? | 12:27 |
| SamYaple | nope | 12:28 |
| SamYaple | not python2 | 12:28 |
| sdake | the less stuff we have to deal with the better | 12:28 |
| sdake | rereading our conversation I missed you suggested basic | 12:33 |
| sdake | that is pretty good | 12:33 |
| SamYaple | i liked | 12:33 |
| sdake | lets use that | 12:34 |
| sdake | i'll file a restructure blueprint | 12:34 |
| sdake | need this stuff done like yesterday :( | 12:34 |
| sdake | do we need mariadb anymore | 12:36 |
| sdake | in the docker repo | 12:36 |
| SamYaple | nope | 12:36 |
| SamYaple | i would prefer a remain of glaera to mariadb though | 12:36 |
| SamYaple | since it can run single node | 12:37 |
| sdake | well have to delete then rename, how git works unforutnately | 12:38 |
| sdake | i'll do that now | 12:39 |
| sdake | need to get rid of the cruft | 12:39 |
| SamYaple | no we dont | 12:40 |
| SamYaple | we can rename glaera to mariadb | 12:40 |
| SamYaple | oh | 12:40 |
| SamYaple | sorry you meant as seperate actions | 12:40 |
| SamYaple | thats fine with me | 12:40 |
| SamYaple | we can rip out mariadb and execute a rename later | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove mariadb container https://review.openstack.org/210823 | 12:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove mariadb container https://review.openstack.org/210823 | 12:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Make build.py build individual images https://review.openstack.org/210833 | 14:43 |
| sdake | samyaple how do you get your credentials into docker for push with build.py? | 14:52 |
| sdake | samyaple or does that work? | 14:54 |
| sdake | looks like it depends on an insecure registry | 14:55 |
| * sdake groans | 14:55 | |
| sdake | looks like they have an auth module - yay ;) | 14:57 |
| sdake | only able to push with docker-py 1.3.1 | 15:22 |
| * sdake groans | 15:22 | |
| sdake | and credentials must be in /etc/docker | 15:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Fixes group name for keepalived.conf https://review.openstack.org/210692 | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove validate-min-env-vars gating https://review.openstack.org/210682 | 15:38 |
| sdake | harmw the idea behind those config-internal patches is we are basically rubber stmaping them | 15:40 |
| sdake | and anything that gets busted we will fix up after its all merged | 15:40 |
| harmw | hm? | 15:41 |
| harmw | did I miss something? | 15:41 |
| sdake | we are deprecating config-internal | 15:41 |
| harmw | so just blindly acking :) | 15:41 |
| harmw | yes yes, read that | 15:41 |
| harmw | excellent | 15:41 |
| sdake | actually we are not deprecating | 15:41 |
| sdake | that would imply we keep it around awhile | 15:41 |
| sdake | we are removing :) | 15:41 |
| harmw | :) | 15:41 |
| sdake | morning btw | 15:42 |
| harmw | yea, evening ;) | 15:42 |
| harmw | vacation is almost over | 15:42 |
| harmw | sad | 15:42 |
| sdake | you can sleep when your dead ;) | 15:45 |
| harmw | hehe | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Revert a8cc61ef so horizon will build https://review.openstack.org/210752 | 15:50 |
| sdake | samyaple can you please rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210577/ | 15:58 |
| sdake | harmw can you rubber stamp those remove-config-internal reviews - theerr are about 20 of them | 16:04 |
| harmw | yea, after dinner | 16:04 |
| sdake | thanks | 16:04 |
| harmw | already had that planned for tonight | 16:04 |
| sdake | cool want to get the repo is some sort of semblance of order ;) | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove most kolla-common.sh code https://review.openstack.org/210838 | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove most kolla-common.sh code https://review.openstack.org/210838 | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove crux from base Dockerfiles https://review.openstack.org/210776 | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for neutron https://review.openstack.org/210566 | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for nova https://review.openstack.org/210561 | 17:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for Heat https://review.openstack.org/210584 | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for gnocchi https://review.openstack.org/210580 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for swift https://review.openstack.org/210548 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for Magnum https://review.openstack.org/210572 | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for memcached https://review.openstack.org/210567 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for zaqar https://review.openstack.org/210546 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for openvswitch https://review.openstack.org/210554 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for rabbitmq https://review.openstack.org/210552 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for keystone https://review.openstack.org/210571 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from Barbican https://review.openstack.org/210519 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/210520 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from cinder https://review.openstack.org/210521 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from designate https://review.openstack.org/210522 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove docker-compose container https://review.openstack.org/210523 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from galera https://review.openstack.org/210524 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from glance https://review.openstack.org/210525 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for keepalived https://review.openstack.org/210574 | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal for haproxy https://review.openstack.org/210578 | 17:19 |
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| sdake_ | harmw can you doublecheck you understand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210753/ | 18:28 |
| harmw | let me check | 18:29 |
| harmw | oh shit, this is another list then? | 18:29 |
| harmw | or I'm just completely off :p | 18:30 |
| harmw | ah, hehe, I think $brain was thinking about some .yml file that also contains stuff like this | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Update test_images.py to have the correct exclusion list https://review.openstack.org/210753 | 18:32 |
| sdake_ | we should hae a yaml, I was thinking of making one last night | 18:32 |
| sdake_ | that lists the state of our repo | 18:32 |
| harmw | hm, I realy don't know what $brain was thinking | 18:34 |
| harmw | can't find anything that looks like what I was thinking it was thinking about | 18:34 |
| harmw | you digg? | 18:34 |
| harmw | :p | 18:34 |
| sdake_ | yup thee isn't one but like i said there probably should be | 18:39 |
| sdake_ | kods go back to schoool tomorrow | 18:43 |
| harmw | nah, got one week left here | 18:46 |
| sdake_ | i mean they do for us | 18:51 |
| sdake_ | so much more work when school is in session | 18:51 |
| sdake_ | homework breakfast lucnh etc | 18:51 |
| harmw | I know, I was just telling I'm still one week away of the added burden :> | 18:53 |
| harmw | well, just breakfast basically | 18:53 |
| sdake_ | how many rugrats do yo uhave | 18:53 |
| harmw | lunch is at home, homework isn't until a couple years from now I guess | 18:53 |
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| harmw | 2 :) #3 is due in a couple of weeks, october | 18:54 |
| sdake_ | you know they make an operation called a vasectomy to stop tht :) | 18:54 |
| sdake_ | but grats ;) | 18:54 |
| harmw | oldest will be 7 by the end of this year, the other one hits 5 in feb :) | 18:54 |
| harmw | hehe | 18:54 |
| sdake_ | going from 0 to 1 was easy | 18:54 |
| sdake_ | 1 to 2 our life imploded | 18:54 |
| sdake_ | i'm not even sure how to handle 3 kids | 18:55 |
| harmw | not sure either :> | 18:55 |
| harmw | it was easy when both were young, but this time there is all kinds of sports and stuff for either one or even both of the oldest :p | 18:56 |
| sdake_ | now is the hardest range for you | 18:56 |
| harmw | soccer, judo, dancing, swimming | 18:56 |
| sdake_ | it gets easier when they get 9-10 | 18:56 |
| sdake_ | because they are more self sufficient | 18:56 |
| harmw | yep | 18:56 |
| sdake_ | i imagine teenage yaers are also a challenge | 18:57 |
| sdake_ | not there yet | 18:57 |
| sdake_ | 11 and 13 are my kids age | 18:57 |
| harmw | for different reasons, but yes | 18:57 |
| harmw | ouch, nearing highschool I think? | 18:57 |
| sdake_ | ya | 18:57 |
| harmw | you've got your boyfriendfragger2000 already? | 18:57 |
| sdake_ | a big stick ;) | 18:58 |
| harmw | that'll do just fine :P | 18:58 |
| sdake_ | we are pretty liberal with our kids | 18:59 |
| sdake_ | they are going to dow hat they ar egoing t o do | 18:59 |
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| sdake_ | hey shardy | 19:06 |
| sdake_ | boy my dr. feickart lp player sounds fantastic | 19:07 |
| harmw | ye :) | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from galera https://review.openstack.org/210848 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/210849 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Clean up comment in rabbitmq https://review.openstack.org/210850 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from cinder-backup https://review.openstack.org/210851 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove config-internal from neutron agent start files https://review.openstack.org/210852 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/kolla: Remove Ansible abstraction for Keystone https://review.openstack.org/210041 | 20:09 |
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