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| CBR09 | Hello, with liberty-2 tag, ubuntu-binary images of version Kilo are stable?, are they working well? | 02:30 |
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| SamYaple | sdake: i am here | 04:13 |
| SamYaple | CBR09: there are no ubuntu-binary images | 04:13 |
| SamYaple | sdake: you around? | 04:13 |
| CBR09 | yes, i saw. So, would ubuntu-source work? | 04:17 |
| SamYaple | in liberty-2, im not so sure. there has been quite a bit of change since then | 04:18 |
| SamYaple | yea none of the ubuntu images exist in liberty-2 | 04:19 |
| SamYaple | well very few | 04:19 |
| SamYaple | i didn't implement them until liberty-3 i believe | 04:19 |
| SamYaple | rc-1 is today, i would suggest running that when that tag actually gets snapped | 04:19 |
| SamYaple | there wont be reliable built images until liberty stable is released | 04:20 |
| CBR09 | https://openstack.nimeyo.com/57563/openstack-announce-announcing-release-liberty-milestone | 04:21 |
| CBR09 | I see ubuntu-source was supported | 04:21 |
| SamYaple | thats liberty-3 | 04:22 |
| CBR09 | I'll be give liberty-3 try, with ubuntu-source | 04:23 |
| CBR09 | hope it work | 04:23 |
| SamYaple | there are no built images for it, but it was working when the tag was snapped yes | 04:24 |
| CBR09 | I see build.py tool | 04:25 |
| CBR09 | ./build.py -b ubuntu -t source | 04:26 |
| SamYaple | that will build the ubuntu images yes | 04:27 |
| SamYaple | if you need to use a private registry dont forget to change the namespace | 04:27 |
| CBR09 | yes, thanks you,do you know: has anyone try build ubuntu-binary in liberty-3?, and is it work? | 04:30 |
| SamYaple | i use ubuntu exclusively, but i haven't gone back and rebuilt liberty-3 since it was initially snapped, no | 04:31 |
| SamYaple | it worked at the time but as packages change upstream its not always possible to rebuild old versions | 04:32 |
| SamYaple | but thats just common infrastructure stuff | 04:32 |
| SamYaple | nothing specific to kolla | 04:32 |
| CBR09 | yes | 04:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin André proposed openstack/kolla: Upgrade packages when installing openstack-clients https://review.openstack.org/226167 | 06:10 |
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| inc0 | morning | 06:51 |
| inc0 | sdake, around? | 06:51 |
| SamYaple | morning inc0 | 06:54 |
| inc0 | hey Sam, do you know if Steven pushed RC1 release? | 06:54 |
| SamYaple | doubtful | 06:57 |
| inc0 | I'd hate to see logging bp fail to merge due to swift :/ | 06:57 |
| inc0 | and only swift rly | 06:58 |
| SamYaple | just push up your changes | 06:59 |
| SamYaple | i ceph needs to merge too | 06:59 |
| inc0 | hasn't it been merged? | 06:59 |
| SamYaple | not the stuff that actually makes openstack work with ceph | 06:59 |
| SamYaple | just the ceph cluster building | 07:00 |
| inc0 | ah this one, got it | 07:02 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, any reason to configure LM flags when ceph is enabled? | 07:06 |
| SamYaple | reference? | 07:07 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225933/10/ansible/roles/nova/templates/nova.conf.j2 | 07:07 |
| SamYaple | oh yea. no thats not a requirement. Honestly i forgot that was there and when i saw its just too late to pull apart that patch | 07:08 |
| SamYaple | since it needs to merge yesterday | 07:08 |
| SamYaple | theres no reason _not_ to enable live migrate | 07:08 |
| inc0 | well, I could name a few, but yeah, I don't have problem with having it there | 07:08 |
| inc0 | just was curious if there was any connection to ceph | 07:09 |
| SamYaple | can you actually name a few? im curious | 07:09 |
| SamYaple | and thats not whats enabling live migration, thats just the proper live migrate flags | 07:09 |
| inc0 | it can kill your CPU and manangement network | 07:09 |
| SamYaple | live-migration is always enabled in openstack | 07:09 |
| SamYaple | its libvirt that can break if you try it and its not configured | 07:10 |
| inc0 | tunneled is arguable | 07:10 |
| SamYaple | those come from the Ceph docs | 07:10 |
| inc0 | it's default I guess, but still arguable | 07:10 |
| SamYaple | you can control it through policy.json | 07:10 |
| inc0 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy8rS_5vea4 have fun;) | 07:11 |
| inc0 | you might recognize guy on the left;) | 07:11 |
| SamYaple | cant see the tiny screen | 07:12 |
| SamYaple | but i recognize teh voice | 07:12 |
| SamYaple | thats ryan i think! | 07:12 |
| inc0 | well...almost | 07:13 |
| SamYaple | ;) | 07:13 |
| inc0 | but I would advise you to see doctor | 07:13 |
| inc0 | if you confuse polish accent with native us one, that's something wrong with either hearing or cerebeal cortex;) | 07:14 |
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| inc0 | anyway, I think we did good job out there, and people liked this talk as well - let me know what you think | 07:16 |
| inc0 | :O | 07:16 |
| inc0 | gerrit has died! | 07:16 |
| SamYaple | pff yea | 07:16 |
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| SamYaple | screw gerrit | 07:16 |
| inc0 | here, grab a +1 with a comment | 07:19 |
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| SamYaple | have you looked at the forward live migration? | 07:20 |
| SamYaple | thats pretty slick | 07:20 |
| inc0 | you mean post-copy? | 07:20 |
| SamYaple | yea | 07:20 |
| inc0 | yeah, we mentioned it there | 07:20 |
| inc0 | it's cool | 07:20 |
| SamYaple | you can configure which network openstack uses for livemigration | 07:21 |
| inc0 | but it'll affect performance in vm and if something fails during LM everything breaks | 07:21 |
| SamYaple | yea agreed | 07:21 |
| inc0 | it's hacky, also mentioned there;) | 07:21 |
| SamYaple | i believe you :) and its not so hacky | 07:21 |
| SamYaple | if you do routes you can do it outside of openstack pretty cleanly | 07:21 |
| SamYaple | all your compute nodes communicate over a different nic, same network | 07:22 |
| inc0 | well, we shown way how to do it using url | 07:22 |
| SamYaple | yea thats the openstack config way | 07:22 |
| inc0 | so just lm then has separate network | 07:22 |
| inc0 | but that's hacky and require tunneled | 07:22 |
| inc0 | and tunelled kills cpu | 07:23 |
| inc0 | it's all tradeofs | 07:23 |
| SamYaple | sure. but you can do routes to ensure the traffic goes over the nic you want | 07:23 |
| SamYaple | yea | 07:23 |
| inc0 | I didn't thought about routes there but yeah, that would work | 07:23 |
| SamYaple | thats how i do it here with my nics | 07:23 |
| inc0 | I don't think there is any other cn->cn communication in nova | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | nope | 07:24 |
| inc0 | not sure if other stuff wouldn't fall for it too | 07:24 |
| inc0 | for example ceph if you'd like to have OSDs on CN | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | any traffic going to another compute would yes | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | but thats fine | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | since thats where it was going anyway | 07:25 |
| inc0 | yeah | 07:25 |
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| SamYaple | well hold on, any traffic on the same _network_ going to another compute | 07:25 |
| inc0 | anyway, we want to make bp to make it properly | 07:25 |
| SamYaple | he. yea i did that before just append -lm to the hostname | 07:27 |
| SamYaple | i used other things,but yea | 07:27 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/SamYaple/openstack_libvirt_deploy/blob/master/httpd/preseed/bootstrap.sh#L147 | 07:28 |
| inc0 | it works | 07:29 |
| SamYaple | yup | 07:29 |
| SamYaple | setting the route was cleaner for me | 07:29 |
| SamYaple | but both have thier merrits | 07:29 |
| inc0 | and both are kinda hacky | 07:29 |
| SamYaple | i dont find the route hacky at all | 07:30 |
| SamYaple | but i like networking | 07:30 |
| inc0 | route thing would work without tunneled, and that's huge plus | 07:30 |
| SamYaple | can you explain why TUNNELED is needed otherwise? | 07:30 |
| SamYaple | im a bit fuzzy on that point | 07:30 |
| inc0 | uri is libvirt conf | 07:31 |
| inc0 | and if you won't use tunneled, connection is between qemu's | 07:31 |
| inc0 | somehow they ignore uri | 07:31 |
| SamYaple | hmm yea i see | 07:32 |
| inc0 | but it's way better perofrmance | 07:32 |
| SamYaple | ssh is going to be hard/impossible with kolla | 07:32 |
| inc0 | you'd need keys in nova-libvirt | 07:33 |
| inc0 | and sshd | 07:33 |
| inc0 | so yeah | 07:33 |
| inc0 | or...hmm | 07:33 |
| SamYaple | well i mean you _could_ do it if you did some other thing | 07:33 |
| inc0 | won't it try normal sshd? | 07:33 |
| SamYaple | but its hacky hacky hacky | 07:33 |
| SamYaple | yea you can get it to work, but shared backend is better :) | 07:34 |
| inc0 | uhh | 07:34 |
| inc0 | anyway, that might become an issue at some point | 07:34 |
| inc0 | people want's security out there | 07:34 |
| inc0 | want* | 07:34 |
| SamYaple | considering all the storage traffic in unencrypted i don't see the benefit | 07:35 |
| inc0 | that's another issue;) | 07:37 |
| SamYaple | nah ill just secure my network properly and take the perforamnce benefit | 07:38 |
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| SamYaple | inc0: good video | 07:46 |
| inc0 | thanks | 07:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin André proposed openstack/kolla: Allow different defaults for different providers https://review.openstack.org/227147 | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin André proposed openstack/kolla: Simplify instructions to install vagrant-libvirt https://review.openstack.org/228152 | 08:45 |
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| mandre | jpeeler: this guy is some piece of work, but at least he's responsive :) | 09:07 |
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| SamYaple | mandre: you around for a review? | 11:31 |
| SamYaple | need this ceph code to merge asap | 11:31 |
| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225933/ | 11:31 |
| SamYaple | if you get a chance | 11:31 |
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| mandre | SamYaple, will do | 12:49 |
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| mandre | SamYaple, you always have the hairiest patches | 13:12 |
| mandre | always take a while to review | 13:13 |
| mandre | not even talking about testing... | 13:13 |
| SamYaple | mandre: sorry | 13:13 |
| SamYaple | in this case i dont know how else to add it | 13:13 |
| SamYaple | its large :/ | 13:13 |
| mandre | ;) | 13:13 |
| SamYaple | my goal is to make it non-impacting to the existing code and then just have bug fixes that are smaler if needed :) | 13:14 |
| mandre | it's fine | 13:14 |
| mandre | at least it's not 700 1 liner patches | 13:14 |
| SamYaple | yea sdake | 13:15 |
| mandre | after looking at my review you'll probably realize I know zip in ansible or ceph | 13:15 |
| SamYaple | mandre: would you consider merging that patch as is if i submit a bug fix patch right now? | 13:19 |
| SamYaple | we can bug fix after rc-1 but i cant afford ceph not ot make it | 13:19 |
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| mandre | sure, has anyone else than you tested ceph works? | 13:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Ceph bugfix for missing host https://review.openstack.org/228185 | 13:22 |
| SamYaple | inc0 was yesterday | 13:22 |
| SamYaple | dont know the progress | 13:22 |
| SamYaple | im more focused on "does it break anything else in kolla" than does ceph work | 13:22 |
| SamYaple | that said i have tested and demoed ceph on virtual and physical hardware several times at this point | 13:23 |
| SamYaple | and it is just a port of the yaodu code which is 6 months old, so its more tested than most stuff we merge | 13:23 |
| mandre | yeah, i figured | 13:25 |
| SamYaple | ive got some docs brewing as well | 13:26 |
| mandre | should be gating now | 13:27 |
| mandre | good job SamYaple | 13:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Make OpenStack use Ceph https://review.openstack.org/225933 | 13:30 |
| SamYaple | mandre: awesome thanks mandre | 13:30 |
| SamYaple | huge load off | 13:30 |
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| mandre | \o/ | 13:35 |
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| mandre | well, well, well, good night | 13:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Ceph bugfix for missing host https://review.openstack.org/228185 | 17:01 |
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