Monday, 2015-10-26

sdakemorning00:23
sdakeanyone around?00:23
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bmacehope you are doing well sdake :)01:12
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inc0wassup?02:14
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sdakeanyone at summit?02:31
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mandrenot yet sdake, i'll go later to do the registration02:49
mandrehow it the venue?02:50
sdakelooks good02:50
sdakethey have indoor smoking02:50
sdakeand a kickass cigar bar02:50
sdakecigar bar only opens at 5pm tho02:51
* sdake grunts02:51
mandreuh, it's a closed room at least?02:51
sdakeyes02:51
sdake"smokers room"02:51
sdakethey dont roll that way in the us ;)02:51
sdakealthough here it seems smoking in public is forbidden02:51
mandreyeah, you can only smoke in dedicated areas02:51
sdakei was at the airport in this smoker room02:52
sdakegot 3rd-12th hand high02:52
sdakei could barely walk out when i was done ;)02:52
sdakenicoteen overdose ftl02:52
mandreit's cheaper for smokers I guess, just walk into one of these rooms, no need to light the cigarette02:53
sdakemandre where is a good resturant around where the convention center area is02:58
sdakesomething non-fuffu02:58
mandrethere are plenty of restaurants, what kind of you do you want?02:59
mandrejapanese?02:59
sdaketepnyakki i think03:00
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sdakelucky no rain in japan03:05
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mandreshinagawa is a busy place, you can probably find something good if you walk toward the station03:11
mandrebest season to visit Japan, weather is really nice now03:12
sdakeyou dont tip here right?03:12
sdakei tried to tip some guy and i think he got upset03:12
mandreit's considered rude03:15
mandredon't do it03:16
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mandrethey won't take the money anyway03:16
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sdakein the us you definately tip03:17
sdakethe more the better service you get next time around :)03:18
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mandrein Japan you _always_ get a top notch service03:43
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openstackgerritRob Hirschfeld proposed openstack/kolla: Make version requirements more visible  https://review.openstack.org/23556806:15
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SamYapleyo yo hello people07:45
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sdakeyo samyaple08:05
sdakesup08:05
sdakeyo SamYaple i am hitting the cigar bar, care to join me for a drink and second hand smoke? :)08:06
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sdakename of the joint is le connesier or something like that08:10
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sdakeits in one of the hotels where the conference is held08:10
sdakeif youg et lost my cell for texting is 602-292-106808:11
sdakehope to see you there :)08:11
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kjelly_sdake: are you in openstack summit hotel now?09:12
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kproskurinGuys, I’m working on updating Kolla documentation with main goal to make one straightforward quickstart doc for new users. Basically updaiting http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/dev-quickstart.html and I thinking about merging this quickstart guide and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/ansible-deployment.html because they are linked to each other.11:32
kproskurinWhat do you think about this?11:32
kjelly_kproskurin:just go for it12:04
kjelly_send a patch for review ing  and someone will give more suggestion for you12:07
nihiliferkproskurin: we cannot merge these two docs, because dev-quickstart is... well... for developers12:11
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nihiliferkproskurin: but we can move all possible stuff from dev-quickstart to ansible-deploymenty12:12
nihiliferdeployment*12:12
nihiliferand keep only stuff related to development or Vagrant environments in dev-quickstart12:12
nihiliferdoes it make sense for you? ;)12:13
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nihiliferkproskurin: to sum it up12:20
nihiliferI would move the majority of dev-quickstart to ansible-deployment12:21
nihiliferand leave dev-q for some protips for devs12:21
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kproskurinhm, it’s a bit confusing for a new user. I just opened this docs, scan for “quickstart”, which is first doc and start to setup my host according to this doc. I dont see anything dev related in it actually.12:51
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kproskurinnihilifer: If we move all from quickstart to ansible we will end with 2 docs which is basicly the same. Right now ansible doc is just an update for quickstart(it’s not linked from anywhere else). And it’s feels natural to merge them13:04
nihiliferkproskurin: ok, you're right, it seems that there are no information "for developers only" in quickstart13:09
kproskurinWooh, great. :-) tx for feedback13:10
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kjellyhello from tokyo14:19
kproskurinGuys, about docs again. It’s better to use “ansible-playbook” or “tools/kolla-ansible” wrapper in docs about deploing Kolla with Ansible?14:23
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kjellyI think "tools/kolla-ansible" is better.14:24
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nihiliferkproskurin: or even just "kolla-ansible"14:55
nihiliferafter installing kolla by pip, it's available as a command in PATH14:55
nihiliferso I think we should suggest to install kolla instead of doing "./tools/kolla_<whatever>"14:56
nihiliferit's just a suggestion14:57
kjellynihilifer: Now kolla can be installed from pip ?14:57
kproskurinnihilifer: Well, right now in docs Kolla is “installed” from git clone…14:57
nihiliferkjelly: yes, it has setup.py14:58
kproskurin# pip search kolla14:58
kproskurinkolla14:58
nihiliferkjelly: so IMO the best habbit is to do "pip install -e <path_with_kolla>" and then just use "kolla-build", "kolla-ansible" etc.14:58
nihiliferkproskurin: just doing "pip install kolla" might not work. I don't know whether guys are uploading Kolla to PyPi15:01
kproskurinnihilifer: I think I will stick to tools/15:02
kproskurintools/kolla-ansible for now*15:02
nihiliferkproskurin: but "git clone git@github.com:openstack/kolla.git; pip install ./kolla" works well15:02
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kjellywhat's the plan about uploading kolla to PyPi?15:02
nihiliferkjelly: I don't know15:03
nihiliferkproskurin: hmmm... I think we should discuss it anyway with guys which are currently in Tokio15:04
nihiliferkproskurin: so, if you feel better with tools/, do what you think15:04
nihiliferkproskurin: we will see what would happen during review :)15:04
kproskurinExactly :-)15:05
kjellynihilifer: thanks.15:05
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