| sdake | mesos may make a good underlay (instead of bare metal) | 00:00 |
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| sdake | all will depend on docker feature support for net=host, pid=host, and -v | 00:00 |
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| sdake | kolla in a mesos world could be done without bindmounting (-v) | 00:02 |
| sdake | dan walsh gave it his best with the kubernetes nerds to get net=host nda pid=host in | 00:02 |
| sdake | no go | 00:02 |
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| bmace | i talked to them once out in seattle too, and they obviously have very specific ideas for the usage. seems like a lot of duplicated services, like a ton of web servers, etc, and it handles the distro. we have a relatively complicated and very dependent set of services. | 00:04 |
| sdake | both mesos and kubernete would be cool underlays | 00:05 |
| sdake | its a shame kubernetes is so anti spc | 00:05 |
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| sdake | it locks them out as an underlay for deployment of virtualiaiton apps for sure | 00:05 |
| sdake | i'm glad hugh brock got me stuck into tht copute-upgrade project when he did | 00:06 |
| sdake | perfect timing | 00:06 |
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| sdake | i think if he knew the answer he would have just told me ;) | 00:07 |
| sdake | 2 weeks of my life i wont get back | 00:07 |
| sdake | i think he knew it wouldn't work and he didn't know why | 00:08 |
| SamYaple | sdake: at somepoint are you going to review the rabbitmq and ceph stuff? | 00:10 |
| sdake | as soon as people sotp scheduling meetings all day after i've beenup since 2am | 00:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix broken link https://review.openstack.org/241006 | 00:11 |
| SamYaple | doing docs stuff | 00:11 |
| SamYaple | that rabbitmq stuff really needs to sit in master for a bit | 00:12 |
| asalkeld | i think mesos should be fine with those permissions as you can run mesos on top of mesos | 00:12 |
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| sdake | SamYaple would creating network name spaces be more secure then using net=host? | 00:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Allow specifying erasure as the pool type https://review.openstack.org/236754 | 00:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Allow ceph pool names to be configurable https://review.openstack.org/236755 | 00:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Automate setting up a cache tier https://review.openstack.org/236756 | 00:23 |
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| SamYaple | sdake: yes. it _is_ more secure | 00:27 |
| sdake | shouldwe do tht? | 00:27 |
| SamYaple | but its a bigger pain and I don't know if we could get neutron to even work with that | 00:27 |
| sdake | cool thanks | 00:27 |
| SamYaple | maybe. i vote no at this stage | 00:27 |
| SamYaple | ive seen no reason to do that to be completely honest | 00:27 |
| sdake | wasn't asking for vote, asking if it was vaualbe ;) | 00:28 |
| sdake | sounds like no | 00:28 |
| SamYaple | Kolla in its current state is understandable to operators that may not know containers | 00:28 |
| SamYaple | with net namespaces it will not be | 00:28 |
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| SamYaple | you can't use tools like `ss` or `netstat` from the host and get any information with namespaces like that | 00:28 |
| SamYaple | as an operator I want net=host, as an idealistic dev I could get on board with macvtap or something | 00:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/kolla: Add a template spec to make it a bit easier to write a new spec https://review.openstack.org/241041 | 00:30 |
| sdake | specs should be hard to write ;) | 00:31 |
| SamYaple | ceph cluster is back to healthy | 00:32 |
| SamYaple | that was a pain to fix | 00:32 |
| SamYaple | now to upgrade to hammer | 00:32 |
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| asalkeld | sdake: haha | 00:33 |
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| asalkeld | this should just make them more consistent | 00:33 |
| sdake | SamYaple any patches you need looked at? | 00:39 |
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| SamYaple | nothing major, but if you are asking sdake https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240697/ | 00:44 |
| sdake | i already looked at that one | 00:47 |
| SamYaple | not before i posted it in IRC | 00:48 |
| SamYaple | timestamps dont lie! | 00:48 |
| SamYaple | but thanks | 00:48 |
| SamYaple | go to bed | 00:48 |
| sdake | need to eat first | 00:48 |
| sdake | docs page is looking better | 00:50 |
| sdake | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/ | 00:50 |
| sdake | samyaple does that secure networking thing hurt performance | 00:51 |
| sdake | the namespace hting | 00:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Add a template spec to make it a bit easier to write a new spec https://review.openstack.org/241041 | 00:56 |
| sdake | volkwagen should have had open source software | 00:58 |
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| sdake | night folks | 01:18 |
| sdake | samyaple i want to chat about the exxternal thing | 01:18 |
| sdake | but i'm beat | 01:18 |
| sdake | lets catch up tomorrow ok? | 01:18 |
| bmace | nite sdake | 01:18 |
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| sdake | evening | 03:48 |
| bmace | as usual sdake, your "nite" lasts for about 2 to 3 hours :) | 03:48 |
| sdake | ya fuckin kids | 03:48 |
| sdake | scremaing | 03:48 |
| sdake | grr | 03:48 |
| bmace | ah, yup, that can make it difficult to sleep, i imagine | 03:49 |
| sdake | anything interesting happen? | 03:51 |
| bmace | not a single thing was said between when i said goodnight to you and you said evening | 03:52 |
| bmace | so unless the lack of things is interesting in and of itself, nothing interesting | 03:53 |
| sdake | did you think youwould make it to austin? | 03:53 |
| bmace | depends on how travel spending is at the time, but if i am a core reviewer and since it is in the states, a pretty strong shot at it. | 03:55 |
| sdake | wow cisco really slackingon the reviews for mitaka only 9% | 03:55 |
| SamYaple | cisco is now backing opennebula | 03:56 |
| bmace | i expect that will change sdake, as far as the cisco review % :) | 03:56 |
| sdake | cisco backs alot of shit | 03:56 |
| sdake | what is opennebula | 03:56 |
| SamYaple | nothing i was making a joke | 03:56 |
| sdake | haven't heard of it | 03:56 |
| SamYaple | you have | 03:57 |
| SamYaple | weve talked about it before | 03:57 |
| sdake | open and space synonymyms = winning | 03:57 |
| sdake | or however tha tsentence shouldbe worded | 03:57 |
| bmace | Galaxy Nimbus.. gimme money! | 03:58 |
| sdake | boy tht power nap was fantastic | 03:58 |
| sdake | i feel great | 03:58 |
| sdake | like tony tiger great | 03:58 |
| bmace | that is pretty great | 03:58 |
| sdake | 5 bucks says sam doesn't know what tony the tiger is without a google search | 03:59 |
| SamYaple | you mean frosted flakes | 03:59 |
| bmace | tony is pretty famous | 03:59 |
| sdake | damn good thing we dindd't bet | 03:59 |
| SamYaple | how young do you think i am | 04:00 |
| sdake | your 25! | 04:00 |
| bmace | what is the name of the kid that will eat stuff that nobody else wants to? cereal reference :) | 04:00 |
| bmace | that is a bit older | 04:00 |
| sdake | starts with an m ;) | 04:00 |
| bmace | hey now.. no hints! | 04:00 |
| SamYaple | are you asking me? | 04:01 |
| sdake | i think that is the game we are playing | 04:01 |
| bmace | stump the Yaple | 04:01 |
| SamYaple | oh i dont know | 04:01 |
| SamYaple | i didnt watch tv | 04:01 |
| sdake | try mikey, he likes it | 04:01 |
| sdake | or something | 04:01 |
| bmace | he definitely likes it | 04:02 |
| SamYaple | i was poor sad locked away child :( | 04:02 |
| bmace | probably better off really | 04:02 |
| sdake | true fact unfortunately | 04:02 |
| sdake | bmace ping | 04:14 |
| bmace | sup? | 04:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/kolla: Deploy Kolla images using Mesos https://review.openstack.org/241086 | 04:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/kolla: Spec: Deploy Kolla images using Mesos https://review.openstack.org/241086 | 04:36 |
| sdake | samyaple can you +a https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240966/ | 04:46 |
| asalkeld | sdake: spec is above ^ | 04:46 |
| sdake | yup i already reviewed it | 04:46 |
| asalkeld | (tho' get some sleep) | 04:46 |
| asalkeld | wow | 04:47 |
| asalkeld | brb getting the kids | 04:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Use rabbitmq-clusterer when deploying https://review.openstack.org/235757 | 04:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Download, install, and enable rabbitmq_cluster https://review.openstack.org/235756 | 04:51 |
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| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241098/ | 05:00 |
| sdake | kollacli ^ | 05:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: fix broken links after retitled document https://review.openstack.org/240966 | 05:00 |
| SamYaple | sdake: that might be tricky with the whole mesos thing comnig up | 05:03 |
| SamYaple | is that client going to work with ansible and mesos and so on? | 05:03 |
| sdake | thats the theory -time will tell | 05:04 |
| sdake | one thing to keep in mind is we lead with ansible | 05:05 |
| sdake | if other sysetms are less complete i'mok with that | 05:05 |
| sdake | are you? | 05:05 |
| SamYaple | im more concerned with confusion rather than what we lead with | 05:05 |
| sdake | we busted the confusion rule at adopting mesos into the repo | 05:05 |
| SamYaple | lies | 05:05 |
| SamYaple | we had compose and ansible for a while | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | we have kolla-ansible script | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | because we had compose | 05:06 |
| SamYaple | _it_ was the kolla script | 05:06 |
| sdake | what would you like me to do | 05:07 |
| SamYaple | we should relaly start adjusting our language to reflect the different between kolla kolla-ansible and kolla-mesos | 05:07 |
| SamYaple | no change needed right now | 05:07 |
| SamYaple | just speech patterns going forward | 05:07 |
| sdake | i thnk we are in for some chaos | 05:07 |
| sdake | i am pretty sure i pointed that out at summit ;) | 05:07 |
| SamYaple | not if we make these adjustments now :) | 05:07 |
| sdake | it would be nice if aalkeld integrated his work with where python-kollaclient heads | 05:08 |
| sdake | wherever that is | 05:08 |
| SamYaple | that should be easy | 05:08 |
| SamYaple | even if its completely branching | 05:08 |
| sdake | the ostk guys wnat us to integrate with their code bae too | 05:09 |
| * sdake groans more | 05:09 | |
| SamYaple | Yea well see. Kollaclient isn't a rest client | 05:09 |
| SamYaple | not sure it applies | 05:09 |
| sdake | the plan is for it to be | 05:09 |
| sdake | atleast in my head | 05:09 |
| SamYaple | would be good. really really embeded in openstack the | 05:10 |
| SamYaple | n | 05:10 |
| sdake | as a separate cli i dont like it, whh is why its called python-kollaclient rather then kollacli ;) | 05:10 |
| sdake | i want a rest api in front of it | 05:10 |
| SamYaple | you dont know what you are saying | 05:10 |
| sdake | yes, i want the client to not do any work except communicate with the rest api | 05:11 |
| sdake | and i want the rest api to do the work | 05:11 |
| sdake | pretty sure i do know what i'm aying ;) | 05:11 |
| SamYaple | no. that would mean we need a kolla service | 05:12 |
| SamYaple | but what deploys that | 05:12 |
| SamYaple | another client and cli? | 05:12 |
| sdake | thinking too far ahead sama | 05:12 |
| sdake | sam | 05:12 |
| sdake | lets see where it goes in the community | 05:13 |
| SamYaple | you are the one that brought it up | 05:13 |
| sdake | i think you implied its not viable - i dont think we have data one way or another | 05:13 |
| SamYaple | either way its a chicken and egg. Its like triple-o | 05:14 |
| sdake | but again the thing is still getting rolling | 05:14 |
| sdake | lets let it get on with dev and see where it goes | 05:14 |
| sdake | that is common engineering pratice 101 :) | 05:14 |
| sdake | impossible to calculate the outcome of such a complex scneario | 05:15 |
| SamYaple | i can when im -2 on that situation | 05:15 |
| sdake | just causes brain damage ;) | 05:15 |
| SamYaple | easy outcome there | 05:15 |
| sdake | yes rejecting something is easy to calcuate - no progress | 05:16 |
| sdake | no risk as well | 05:16 |
| sdake | mesos, impossible ot calculate | 05:16 |
| sdake | high degree of risk | 05:17 |
| sdake | could be a good outcome | 05:17 |
| SamYaple | thats implying any change is progress | 05:17 |
| sdake | could be a charlie foxtrot | 05:17 |
| sdake | ok well done arguing | 05:17 |
| sdake | off to tv land enjoy | 05:17 |
| SamYaple | see ya! | 05:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Add missing murano-api to site.yml https://review.openstack.org/241099 | 05:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla: Make nova-spice5htmlproxy build on RDO https://review.openstack.org/241101 | 05:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla: Make nova-spice5htmlproxy build on RDO https://review.openstack.org/241101 | 05:39 |
| SamYaple | sdake: you stated that blueprint lol | 05:41 |
| SamYaple | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/nova-proxies | 05:41 |
| sdake | crs dude crs | 05:41 |
| sdake | says registered by yu | 05:42 |
| sdake | you | 05:42 |
| SamYaple | says you "started by"'d it | 05:42 |
| SamYaple | either way. proof you touched it! | 05:43 |
| SamYaple | anyway good news is if we watch the gate we can prevent that breakage again | 05:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/kolla: Spec: Deploy Kolla images using Mesos https://review.openstack.org/241086 | 05:46 |
| sdake | SamYaple can you triage this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1512508 | 05:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1512508 in kolla "Failed to build ironic-pxe container for ubuntu" [Undecided,New] | 05:46 |
| SamYaple | patch in the queue | 05:46 |
| SamYaple | still working it out | 05:46 |
| SamYaple | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238640/ | 05:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Small refactor for site.yml https://review.openstack.org/241105 | 05:48 |
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| SamYaple | any cores around that can ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235756/ ? | 05:51 |
| SamYaple | it has been tested on both ubuntu and centos and passes the gate | 05:51 |
| sdake | mandre may be around | 05:52 |
| sdake | or coolsvap | 05:53 |
| kjelly | SamYaple: I can help test | 05:54 |
| asalkeld | dag sdake never seen such nitpicking on language in a spec :-O - just say'in | 05:55 |
| sdake | werd | 05:55 |
| SamYaple | yea asalkeld we don't use specs. sdake makes sure of it.... | 05:55 |
| SamYaple | ;) | 05:55 |
| sdake | i am actually open to specs nwo | 05:56 |
| sdake | now | 05:56 |
| sdake | that kolla has matured | 05:56 |
| sdake | probably a conversation that should be had | 05:56 |
| sdake | i meant to have it at summit | 05:56 |
| sdake | but -enominerals | 05:56 |
| asalkeld | in other projects, it's more like "if i can understand enough to read it, it's good" | 05:56 |
| SamYaple | require more vespene gas | 05:56 |
| sdake | protoss | 05:56 |
| SamYaple | asalkeld: im good with that personally | 05:57 |
| sdake | my theory on process is there is no sense in implementing process if it isn't necessary | 05:57 |
| asalkeld | else, it's very hard on non english speakers | 05:57 |
| sdake | specs = unnecesssary process for the most part for a project liek kolla which had 6 contribs at end of kilo | 05:57 |
| SamYaple | kjelly: in this case the patches are tested, but you are welcome to it | 05:58 |
| sdake | things have changed | 05:58 |
| SamYaple | kjelly: the more testing the better :) | 05:58 |
| sdake | aalkeld also i submitted a spec for ironic, it went through 15 iterations | 05:58 |
| sdake | before someone else wrote the same exact shit with less correct language and it was approved first go | 05:58 |
| asalkeld | yeah, let's be just like that;) | 05:59 |
| SamYaple | if i didn't write it you can bet i have a problem with it! | 05:59 |
| SamYaple | you have to lob in softball changes asalkeld. a couple mispelled words, some whitespace | 05:59 |
| sdake | sam is the definition of NIH | 05:59 |
| SamYaple | just enough to get a -1 and the nyou fix it | 05:59 |
| asalkeld | har | 06:00 |
| sdake | here is my expanded theory on specs | 06:00 |
| sdake | the best engineering hapepns without specifications | 06:00 |
| sdake | but if your goin to waste time writing a spec and fucking up your brain with patterns which are not spontenous | 06:01 |
| sdake | its better to think it through | 06:01 |
| sdake | language is a semi-binary system | 06:01 |
| sdake | the brain is a fulll on analog coputer :) | 06:01 |
| SamYaple | dude. i have no idea what you are talking about | 06:01 |
| sdake | asalkeld do you get it ? | 06:02 |
| * asalkeld just fixing english mistakes ... | 06:02 | |
| * sdake wacks angus | 06:03 | |
| asalkeld | "if your goin to waste time" ... | 06:03 |
| sdake | also - pet peve about pronouns | 06:03 |
| SamYaple | sdake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States | 06:03 |
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| sdake | ya i'm in openstack recovery this week | 06:06 |
| sdake | bunch of low value work i do every week after summit | 06:06 |
| sdake | so i dont need to visit a "burn center" | 06:06 |
| SamYaple | i was actually giving you that so you could treat the burn asalkeld handed out | 06:06 |
| sdake | oh | 06:06 |
| sdake | ;) | 06:06 |
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| sdake | i thought you were making a reference to burnout | 06:07 |
| sdake | i'm good - i know how to mange myself | 06:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Remove vip for rabbitmq https://review.openstack.org/235777 | 06:27 |
| SamYaple | sdake ^^ that gets right of the whole "rabbitmq through the vip" thing | 06:27 |
| SamYaple | rid* | 06:27 |
| sdake | cool i wanted to do that a long time ago | 06:28 |
| SamYaple | we couldn't until now | 06:28 |
| sdake | what was the blocker? | 06:28 |
| sdake | clusterer? | 06:28 |
| SamYaple | rabbitmq cluster forming and more hosts and stuff | 06:28 |
| SamYaple | basically we had no way of knowing the existing cluster size but would happily bootstrap more hosts | 06:28 |
| sdake | this is all stuff we are backporting to 1.1? | 06:28 |
| SamYaple | I would like too | 06:29 |
| sdake | ya | 06:29 |
| sdake | keep a list or something | 06:29 |
| SamYaple | at this point were just going to have to diff the commits in the branches and determine what we want | 06:29 |
| sdake | i guess the other part we taked about was migration in 1.1? | 06:29 |
| SamYaple | initially it was no backports for this stuff | 06:29 |
| SamYaple | yea | 06:29 |
| SamYaple | that requires the package pinning stuff | 06:30 |
| SamYaple | working on that flow | 06:30 |
| SamYaple | based on the etherpad | 06:30 |
| sdake | woring on the implementation? | 06:30 |
| SamYaple | yea | 06:30 |
| sdake | if i'm awake when ttx is i'll see what the deal is about version #s | 06:30 |
| sdake | hopefully i'll be fast asleep | 06:30 |
| sdake | say SamYaple some dude reported docker 1.9.0 makes push faster, but it doesn't do anything different from what i can tell | 06:33 |
| SamYaple | i reported that | 06:33 |
| sdake | reported it makes push faster? | 06:33 |
| bmace | we had similar reports internally from people who have tried it | 06:33 |
| SamYaple | bmace: no change or faster? | 06:34 |
| SamYaple | sdake: they fixed the layer calc algo | 06:34 |
| bmace | 1.9 is faster | 06:34 |
| SamYaple | bmace: +1 | 06:34 |
| sdake | docker-engine-1.9.0-0.0.20151029.173739.git8d62f24.el7.centos.x86_64 | 06:34 |
| SamYaple | was that before or after the commit merged sdake? | 06:35 |
| sdake | no clue | 06:35 |
| sdake | that rpm is 3 days old | 06:35 |
| sdake | the bug was 6 days old i think | 06:35 |
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| sdake | bmace which version specifically? | 06:36 |
| sdake | 1.9 is not yet released | 06:36 |
| SamYaple | https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/17227 | 06:36 |
| SamYaple | thats the patch that did it for me i believe | 06:36 |
| sdake | does v2 perform like v1 now? | 06:38 |
| bmace | they just said one of the 1.9 beta builds.. idk | 06:38 |
| SamYaple | ~nope | 06:38 |
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| sdake | still slower? | 06:38 |
| SamYaple | yea | 06:38 |
| SamYaple | i might use it now though | 06:38 |
| SamYaple | maybe | 06:38 |
| sdake | did you time your build/push wit hv2? | 06:38 |
| SamYaple | yea its alot slower currently | 06:39 |
| SamYaple | 6 minutes vs 30 | 06:39 |
| sdake | 30 minutes for v2? | 06:39 |
| SamYaple | yea | 06:39 |
| sdake | thats pretty good mine is 90 minutes for build and push | 06:39 |
| SamYaple | my build is now 6 minutes | 06:39 |
| sdake | my v1 was 30 mins for buildpush | 06:39 |
| SamYaple | for the gate subset | 06:40 |
| sdake | your build is 6 minutes with v2? | 06:40 |
| SamYaple | v2 has nothing to do with build | 06:40 |
| sdake | oh | 06:40 |
| sdake | it made build faster but not push | 06:40 |
| SamYaple | no i was just stating a fact | 06:40 |
| SamYaple | anyway 1.9.0 should help with push | 06:40 |
| sdake | what is yoru build + push with v2 and 1.9.0? | 06:40 |
| SamYaple | calculating build in there is pointless since that varies | 06:41 |
| SamYaple | the push with the build i tried with 1.9.0 was about twice as fast as 1.8.2 | 06:41 |
| sdake | with the v2 registry? | 06:42 |
| SamYaple | yea | 06:42 |
| sdake | what about v1 reg? | 06:42 |
| SamYaple | i only did the one push | 06:42 |
| sdake | ok | 06:42 |
| SamYaple | oh jeez | 06:42 |
| SamYaple | just test it | 06:43 |
| sdake | sorry | 06:43 |
| sdake | i did | 06:43 |
| SamYaple | lol its ok | 06:43 |
| sdake | i dont see any variance | 06:43 |
| sdake | which is why i want to understand whaty u tested :) | 06:43 |
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| SamYaple | you should track down that git commit | 06:43 |
| SamYaple | just because it says 2015.10.29 does not be that was the build | 06:43 |
| sdake | i have a build and push running atm on v1 registry | 06:44 |
| sdake | SamYaple yup understood - possible i dont have the fix | 06:44 |
| sdake | i can't handle 2 hour build nad push operations during dev | 06:45 |
| sdake | but could handle running 1.9.0 dev build | 06:45 |
| sdake | v2 registry faster at pull true/false? | 06:48 |
| sdake | (in our usecase) bmace SamYaple ? | 06:48 |
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| SamYaple | they claim it is | 06:49 |
| SamYaple | i am dubious | 06:49 |
| sdake | yess i read that claim | 06:49 |
| sdake | they also claim push was faster | 06:50 |
| bmace | sdake: i'm not sure. i think push was the huge pig.. | 06:50 |
| sdake | which is clearly cracksauce | 06:50 |
| SamYaple | i think they mean more effecient | 06:50 |
| SamYaple | but they are burying thier head in the sand about the issue for sure | 06:50 |
| sdake | hard to confuse the word effecient and faster in my vocabulary ;) | 06:50 |
| sdake | but i get what your saying | 06:51 |
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| sdake | up to rc4 | 06:52 |
| sdake | i guess i'll try that | 06:52 |
| sdake | SamYaple does 1.9.0 work with kolla? | 06:53 |
| SamYaple | ansible is the issue at this point | 06:54 |
| SamYaple | need 2.0 bump to get past 1.8.2 | 06:54 |
| SamYaple | sdake: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235777/ the gate liked it :) | 06:56 |
| sdake | are the ansible cts not going to tag a 1.9.5? | 07:00 |
| SamYaple | they may or may not | 07:01 |
| SamYaple | ive heard no | 07:01 |
| SamYaple | but i cant see that being right... | 07:01 |
| sdake | if they do does that fix our problem? | 07:01 |
| SamYaple | yup | 07:01 |
| sdake | evrything else is backported? | 07:01 |
| SamYaple | its a quick fix. its all in stable branch | 07:02 |
| sdake | so soethin needs to be backported still? | 07:02 |
| SamYaple | no | 07:02 |
| SamYaple | i just installed head of stable locally | 07:02 |
| SamYaple | so i run latest docker | 07:02 |
| sdake | so tagging head of stable as 1.9.5 would do the job? | 07:02 |
| SamYaple | no, bumping the ansible-module-core to head of stable work work | 07:03 |
| sdake | is there a bunch of changes in there or only the docker moduel change? | 07:05 |
| SamYaple | i dont know man go look | 07:05 |
| sdake | thoguht yuo may kow | 07:05 |
| sdake | know | 07:05 |
| sdake | your hip and stuff ;) | 07:05 |
| SamYaple | damn right | 07:05 |
| sdake | so the impact wiwth things as is is 1.9.z doesn't work atall for docker correct? | 07:06 |
| sdake | or is it more subtle | 07:06 |
| sdake | is al docker busted or just kolla docker usage | 07:06 |
| SamYaple | > 1.8.2 doesnt work | 07:07 |
| SamYaple | 1.8.3 doesnt work | 07:07 |
| sdake | i understand for us, but for docker in general | 07:07 |
| SamYaple | works fine | 07:07 |
| SamYaple | dockers not broken | 07:07 |
| SamYaple | they just did an api change without bumping api versions | 07:07 |
| sdake | docker 1.8.3 + ansible 1.9.4 works for everyone in the world but kolla ? :) | 07:07 |
| * sdake wonders why it has to be so hard :( | 07:08 | |
| SamYaple | no | 07:08 |
| SamYaple | ansible is busted with docker 1.8.3 | 07:08 |
| sdake | cool | 07:08 |
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| sdake | well that atleat gives em something to work with | 07:08 |
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| sdake | isthere any unsanity workaround? | 07:13 |
| sdake | like overriding core moduel or something? | 07:13 |
| sdake | not for kolla code base | 07:14 |
| SamYaple | yea we can lower the api version, but we _cant_ do that because we have something from the 1.19 api i think | 07:14 |
| SamYaple | so they changed the api we are using | 07:14 |
| SamYaple | so no | 07:14 |
| bmace | i don't know of one for using v1 registries w/ docker 1.8.3 + ansible.. the deprecation warning acts like an error so deploy pukes on the first container. | 07:14 |
| SamYaple | yea and they have already said they are NOT fixing that | 07:14 |
| bmace | yup | 07:14 |
| SamYaple | so you ahve to use v2 | 07:14 |
| bmace | or drop back to 1.8.2 docker | 07:15 |
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| SamYaple | who thought that would be a good idea in a .z release is crazy | 07:16 |
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| sdake | so the only answer is to use docker v2 registry with docker 1.9 with ansible 2.0? | 07:17 |
| bmace | they continue to prove crazy is commonplace with that, huge perf degredation from v1 to v2 registry, etc.. | 07:17 |
| SamYaple | 1.8.3 and up required v2 regitry | 07:17 |
| SamYaple | bmace: i like rkt :) | 07:17 |
| bmace | maybe that should be their slogan.. docker, where crazy is commonplace. | 07:17 |
| sdake | the problem with ansible 2.0 is what, quality? | 07:18 |
| SamYaple | its.... its a rewrite | 07:18 |
| SamYaple | its not a refactor | 07:18 |
| sdake | roger | 07:18 |
| SamYaple | like they started from scratch in a bunch of areas | 07:18 |
| SamYaple | that almost always ends a project | 07:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/kolla: Spec: Deploy Kolla images using Mesos https://review.openstack.org/241086 | 07:19 |
| sdake | running docker r1.9.0rc4 + reg v2 with no special performance optimizations with --push --no-cache | 07:24 |
| sdake | i'll report back in t-2 hrs ;) | 07:24 |
| SamYaple | thats a really bad test imperically | 07:25 |
| SamYaple | a better one is to build the images then push | 07:25 |
| SamYaple | the push should be timed | 07:25 |
| sdake | i wonder if the openstack gods have something against ceilometer | 07:31 |
| sdake | ok i'll do that sam | 07:31 |
| sdake | SamYaple besides the rewrite issue, do we hve to change the playbooks? I seem to recall you saying we did | 07:33 |
| SamYaple | yea we will have to | 07:40 |
| sdake | 16 minutes to build | 07:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Adjust package name for Ubuntu Ironic https://review.openstack.org/238640 | 08:22 |
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| harmw | sdake: am now | 08:32 |
| harmw | sup | 08:32 |
| sdake | harmw i think i needed a review | 08:32 |
| sdake | ut i'm all set now thanks | 08:32 |
| harmw | cool | 08:32 |
| SamYaple | harmw: i need reviews | 08:32 |
| SamYaple | i need all the reviews! | 08:32 |
| harmw | yea, I should probably go about on my quest for time again and return with loot and candybars | 08:33 |
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| harmw | or buy a timemachine, to crunch those 42hrs into 1 day, each day | 08:33 |
| harmw | :) | 08:33 |
| SamYaple | 42 is just 24 backwards | 08:34 |
| harmw | so you're saying, if I do my daily tasks in reverse my days last twice as long? | 08:35 |
| harmw | cool! | 08:35 |
| SamYaple | start the day by going to sleep | 08:35 |
| SamYaple | works for me | 08:35 |
| sdake | harmw any chance you would be up for designate in mitaka -1 ? | 08:36 |
| sdake | the ansible part of things | 08:36 |
| harmw | when is that due? | 08:36 |
| harmw | I realy want to get at it though | 08:37 |
| SamYaple | tomorrow | 08:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Add missing murano-api to site.yml https://review.openstack.org/241099 | 08:41 |
| SamYaple | mandre: you around to turn your +1 into a +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235756/ ? | 08:42 |
| SamYaple | not sure why the +1 | 08:42 |
| sdake | harmw dec 4 | 08:56 |
| harmw | ok | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Ansible config for Spice console https://review.openstack.org/236670 | 09:02 |
| SamYaple | there all of my patches are good to go | 09:02 |
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| sdake | samyaple do you bindmount /var/lib/registry or do any other perfomrance hacks with v2 registry? | 09:04 |
| SamYaple | i do bind it to keep my images persistent, but not for performance | 09:05 |
| SamYaple | should actually help performance | 09:06 |
| sdake | agree | 09:06 |
| SamYaple | shouldnt* | 09:06 |
| SamYaple | it shouldnt | 09:06 |
| sdake | disagree :) | 09:06 |
| sdake | i htink it would be minor | 09:06 |
| sdake | barely noticeable | 09:06 |
| sdake | just wondering if that is what you were doing tho | 09:06 |
| sdake | i'm at container 85 on the push | 09:06 |
| sdake | and you use -p? | 09:07 |
| sdake | (docker proxy) | 09:07 |
| sdake | SamYaple is there any special options to use when formatting btrfs? | 09:08 |
| sdake | 1.9.0-rc4 takes 90m25s to push to v2 registry | 09:14 |
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| sdake | build is 30% with master of docker | 09:28 |
| sdake | faster | 09:28 |
| sdake | push takes 45 seconds instead of 48 seconds for 2 images | 09:29 |
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| kproskurin | Morning guys | 09:55 |
| sdake | i changed docker-py from 0.50 to 0.3.1 and push went from 1.5 minuts to 45 seconds | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Proskurin Kirill proposed openstack/kolla: Updated quickstart doc https://review.openstack.org/240829 | 10:01 |
| kproskurin | woops | 10:01 |
| kproskurin | what the hell is happend… | 10:02 |
| kproskurin | or everything is fine. %-) Just surprised what change between patch set 5 and 6 is like whole directory | 10:05 |
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| asalkeld | harmw: really happy you can help with reviews, great to have someone familar with the tech | 10:51 |
| asalkeld | (mesos/marathon stuff) | 10:52 |
| asalkeld | hi kproskurin | 10:52 |
| kproskurin | hi | 10:53 |
| asalkeld | kproskurin: did you have a look yet > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241086 | 10:54 |
| kproskurin | I did, looks good | 10:56 |
| asalkeld | ok thx | 10:57 |
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| sdake | samyaple this is the bug we are hitting https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/14018 | 11:02 |
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| sdake | harmw please ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241101/ | 11:07 |
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| asalkeld | time in phoenix "4:09am" - groan | 11:09 |
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| sdake | https://github.com/remind101/docker-build/pull/3 | 11:11 |
| sdake | ya its about 7pm in tokyo | 11:11 |
| sdake | jet lag ftl | 11:11 |
| asalkeld | aaa, that make sense | 11:12 |
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| sdake | worth a go here -t STAMP | 11:15 |
| sdake | use [[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.ss] instead of current time | 11:15 |
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| * asalkeld heading off to bed, early start | 11:33 | |
| sdake | sweet | 11:40 |
| sdake | that touch hack works!! | 11:40 |
| sdake | fast image builds in v2 registry incoming | 11:40 |
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| kproskurin | sdake: I updated my docs with new commit(1 line added). Please check then you will have time | 12:01 |
| sdake | ya will do looking at something atm | 12:01 |
| sdake | have ou tested the docs | 12:04 |
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| kproskurin | Have I tested the docs? Well, I check what build.py and kolla-ansible working with instruction provided. Not sure what else can be tested | 12:07 |
| sdake | wfm | 12:07 |
| sdake | you siad the docs were busted in some way | 12:07 |
| sdake | because of your othre patch hat needs rework | 12:07 |
| kproskurin | Yes, I add 1 line to fix this(copy etc/kolla to /etc) | 12:09 |
| kproskurin | I working on fix for tools btw. | 12:14 |
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| inc0 | hey guys | 14:03 |
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| akwasnie1 | hey inc0:) | 14:10 |
| inc0 | hey, I got my visa!:) | 14:11 |
| akwasnie1 | great! | 14:11 |
| inc0 | how are bugs going? any progress? | 14:11 |
| akwasnie1 | with Traceback? still missing in rsyslog... | 14:13 |
| inc0 | duh | 14:15 |
| inc0 | I'll be back in office tomorrow, I'll help you | 14:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Prevent virbr0 from being created by default https://review.openstack.org/240697 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: nova.conf: fix incorrect neutron credentials. https://review.openstack.org/240842 | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Download, install, and enable rabbitmq_cluster https://review.openstack.org/235756 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Use rabbitmq-clusterer when deploying https://review.openstack.org/235757 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Small refactor for site.yml https://review.openstack.org/241105 | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Proskurin Kirill proposed openstack/kolla: Few improvements in Kolla tools. Added Ubuntu support. https://review.openstack.org/240827 | 15:55 |
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| sdake | morning | 17:51 |
| bmace | morning sdake | 17:57 |
| sdake | hey bmace | 17:58 |
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| harmw | asalkeld: :) looking forward to $stuff | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Make nova-spice5htmlproxy build on RDO https://review.openstack.org/241101 | 18:29 |
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| sdake | rhallisey ping | 18:56 |
| rhallisey | sdake, yo | 18:56 |
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| sdake | rhallisey can you ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240829/ pls | 19:46 |
| rhallisey | sure | 19:46 |
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| sdake | rhallisey and please ack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236670/ - this fixes teh gate | 19:59 |
| sdake | oh you got that one | 19:59 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I've out maneuvered you this time! ha! | 20:00 |
| sdake | i was thinking of a different ptch related to spiceconsole | 20:00 |
| rhallisey | roger that | 20:00 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I thought we were keeping the ansible-deployment doc? | 20:10 |
| rhallisey | wasn't there a comment about that | 20:10 |
| sdake | no | 20:11 |
| sdake | we are removing that | 20:11 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I see some spelling errors. Wana merge and follow up with a fix and since he's likely asleep? | 20:16 |
| sdake | i am going to fix those, see comment log | 20:16 |
| rhallisey | k | 20:16 |
| rhallisey | lgtm | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Updated quickstart doc https://review.openstack.org/240829 | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Ansible config for Spice console https://review.openstack.org/236670 | 20:48 |
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| kproskurin | Hi guys | 20:54 |
| kproskurin | I saw you merged my docs, thanks! Just a reminder what I updated tools commit (#240827). I hope now it's ok. :-) | 20:58 |
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| sdake | samyaple about? | 22:10 |
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| SamYaple | sdake: pong | 22:25 |
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| sdake | SamYaple how do you feel about a config option whitelist which defaultss to everything | 22:25 |
| SamYaple | i dont understand what you are asking | 22:26 |
| sdake | anything not in the whitelist would be removed from the generated configs | 22:26 |
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| sdake | the whitelist would be "*" or something similiar | 22:26 |
| sdake | idea is to allow vendors to lock out certain config options | 22:27 |
| sdake | for sla reasons/etc | 22:27 |
| asalkeld | sdake: i can update that spec, but thought i'd wait for the +2/-1 from cores. Then I could update with changes from reviews just before you approve OR with a seperate patch - let me know | 22:27 |
| sdake | asalkeld might as well get it updated now | 22:28 |
| sdake | and the cores can revote | 22:28 |
| asalkeld | k | 22:28 |
| SamYaple | sdake: i still don't understand, but im not cool with blocking out options | 22:28 |
| sdake | it would be operator choice | 22:29 |
| sdake | but ya i get the concern | 22:29 |
| sdake | master wouldnt' block anhthing out | 22:29 |
| sdake | operators would be free to do whatever they please | 22:29 |
| SamYaple | right im just not sure what your asking is the point | 22:29 |
| SamYaple | it may be reasonable i just dont understand it | 22:30 |
| sdake | so lets say i am vmware | 22:30 |
| sdake | and i dont want people running kvm with my product | 22:30 |
| sdake | i add to the whitelist everything but virt=kvm | 22:30 |
| SamYaple | sdake: whats dansmiths irc handle | 22:30 |
| sdake | SamYaple dsmith i think | 22:30 |
| SamYaple | thanks please continue | 22:31 |
| sdake | then as vmware i control people from using kvm with my product | 22:31 |
| sdake | there are a million other examples but thats an obvious one :) | 22:31 |
| sdake | feels a bit dirty but still offers operator/vednor choice | 22:32 |
| SamYaple | right well thats where a forked repo comes in | 22:32 |
| SamYaple | which was always the point | 22:32 |
| SamYaple | kolla has a working vanilla openstack | 22:32 |
| SamYaple | its a reference to build a product | 22:32 |
| SamYaple | look at oracle | 22:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Remove vip for rabbitmq https://review.openstack.org/235777 | 22:41 |
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| sdake | sorry got dced | 22:57 |
| sdake | ya a private patch would be fine | 22:57 |
| sdake | i also feel dirty keeping a private patch :) | 22:57 |
| SamYaple | yea but that patch is against the spirit of kolla in my opinion. its about enabling the operators, not limiting them | 22:58 |
| SamYaple | companies are what limit the operator ;) | 22:58 |
| sdake | ya i guess what I can do is keep a public fork with the patch | 22:59 |
| sdake | so people can get at it | 22:59 |
| sdake | then i dont feel bad about not sharing | 23:00 |
| sdake | because that is caring and all that | 23:00 |
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| asalkeld | ha ha | 23:11 |
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| SamYaple | sdake_: ping | 23:24 |
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