Tuesday, 2016-01-12

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openstackgerrithardik proposed openstack/kolla: Added Mistral doc link in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/26610502:26
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openstackgerritKuo-tung Kao proposed openstack/kolla: add removing containers func for kolla-ansible  https://review.openstack.org/26458403:28
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RA_kolla_docker.py looks good, is it going to be put in stable/liberty branch?04:30
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nihiliferRA_: peobably not05:04
nihiliferor at least i'd be against backporting such a feature05:04
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RA_@nihilifer what are your thoughts on user kolla/master with openstack liberty?05:20
nihiliferRA_: that's impossible. to deploy liberty, please use liberty branch of kolla05:22
nihiliferthe idea of kolla is to be stick to version of the other openstack project05:22
nihiliferso kolla mitaka will deploy mitaka05:22
nihiliferand our current master deploys mitaka from master branches of openstack projects :)05:22
nihiliferunfortunately, that means that you have to pin version of docker to 1.8.2 when deploying liberty05:23
RA_yeah in our case we are using CentOS 7 and have had to stay with docker-1.7.1-115.el7.x86_6405:26
nihiliferRA_: well, you can always install docker from docker yum repository, not from centos05:27
nihiliferand then use 1.8.205:27
nihiliferto be honest, i'd recommend to go with 1.8.2 - this release was tested well05:29
RA_thanks, I'll try that05:29
RA_yeah I only became aware of the docker yum repo recently05:29
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RA_so am I right to presume that kolla liberty will only get bug fixes and not new features?05:41
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Ceph repo has been moved to download.ceph.org  https://review.openstack.org/26582206:15
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add py27 py34 pypy unittest  https://review.openstack.org/26519306:20
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add more swift base container for less redundancy  https://review.openstack.org/26567706:42
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Share the same image between swift services  https://review.openstack.org/26567706:46
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Vagrant multinode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26224206:55
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Documenting Ansible deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26390906:55
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Fetching IP addresses for vagrant-hostmanager from libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/26387806:55
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: kolla-mesos-ansible script  https://review.openstack.org/26390706:55
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Add Ansible playbooks for deploying Mesos  https://review.openstack.org/26390606:55
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openstackgerritProskurin Kirill proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Add multiple deployment support  https://review.openstack.org/26224709:38
openstackgerritProskurin Kirill proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Start script moved from mariadb ZK node to global node  https://review.openstack.org/26626009:38
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micktHi guys, I've just deployed 2x control, compute, network nodes and have enabled ha during router creation; I can't seem to achive an active router, both show standby. I can't find anything to help in logs. Anyone awrae of any gotchas withthis setup?11:35
openstackgerritArtur Zarzycki proposed openstack/kolla: Cinder ubuntu binary container  https://review.openstack.org/26631111:43
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Vagrant multinode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26224211:50
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Documenting Ansible deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26390911:50
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Fetching IP addresses for vagrant-hostmanager from libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/26387811:50
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: kolla-mesos-ansible script  https://review.openstack.org/26390711:50
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Add Ansible playbooks for deploying Mesos  https://review.openstack.org/26390611:50
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Documenting Ansible deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26390911:55
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SamYaplemandre: not that it would pull each image, but the process of docker checking that it has the latest image and validating it takes a while.13:56
SamYaplemandre: in the case of a local registry it takes about as long to checkin docker as it does to pull the images (raw data)13:57
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SamYapleansible 2.0 is released13:58
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claytonI was looking through the kolla ansible playbooks for nova-compute and noticed that it does a read-only volume mount of /lib/modules.  Does anyone know what makes that required?15:23
claytonoriginally I assumed maybe nova-compute ran modprobe or something, but that doesn't appear to be the case15:23
SamYapleclayton: nova-compute does run modprobe of some things in some circustance15:24
rhalliseyclayton, I believe that was just to limit what it can look it15:24
rhalliseywe do it for lots of things15:24
claytonis it running it indirectly?  I can't find any references to modprobe in the nova code15:24
SamYapleclayton: yea im pretty sure its inderct15:24
SamYaplelike brctl loads the module and things lke that15:25
claytonthat makes sense.  I was mostly just curious.15:25
SamYaplekinda like how qemu will load the kvm module if its not loaded but you run it with --kvm15:25
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asalkeldo/16:51
openstackgerritSteve Noyes proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Script to show status of kolla-mesos tasks  https://review.openstack.org/26601016:52
asalkeldhi stvnoyes16:53
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stvnoyeshi angus16:53
openstackgerritProskurin Kirill proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Support deploy without configs  https://review.openstack.org/26647616:53
openstackgerritProskurin Kirill proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Add memcached support  https://review.openstack.org/26647716:53
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asalkeldchecking out your patch now..16:53
stvnoyesok, thanks16:55
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stvnoyesangus, hold off for a minute just found a pep8 issue16:59
stvnoyes(alphabetic ordering of imporrts)16:59
asalkeldstvnoyes: also that should be in the cmd/ module16:59
stvnoyessure I can move it there.17:00
asalkeldat some point soon we need a python API to this stuff17:00
asalkeldso the cli and other upper layers can talk to kolla-mesos17:00
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asalkeldkproskurin: reviewed  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266476/117:03
openstackgerritSteve Noyes proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Script to show status of kolla-mesos tasks  https://review.openstack.org/26601017:05
kproskurinasalkeld: So we have to gen configs at the time of cmd runs only?17:05
kproskurinNot sure if it’s optimal17:05
asalkeldkproskurin: it just won't work otherwise17:06
kproskurinasalkeld: Thats sad. I’ll think about it. Ty17:07
asalkeldthe requires is there to so "i need something", that means a service running/something done. that influences the hostvars and thus how the rendering is done17:08
asalkeldif we do the render too early it could well be incorrect17:08
kproskurinWell right now I just cant see the exampe of any race. All hostvars what we using pretty static from the start17:13
asalkeldkproskurin: you put one in: horizon which depends on memcached17:20
asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/kolla-mesos/blob/master/config/horizon/templates/local_settings.j2#L12917:20
kproskurinBut IP of memcached is knows at the start of the deploy, so we just put it in the configs17:20
kproskurinknown*17:21
asalkeldbut it's not17:21
asalkeldeverything is started together17:21
asalkeldit's timing dependant17:21
kproskurinoh I see17:21
kproskurinit really can be anythere17:21
asalkeldso it might well work sometimes17:21
asalkeldand then just break17:21
* asalkeld heads to another meeting...17:22
asalkelddoh, i am apparently cloning myself and going to 2 meetings :-O17:23
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sdakemorning17:25
inc0hey, guys, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257568/17:25
inc0it's sitting there for few weeks now and that's one important patchset17:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Added Mistral doc link in README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/26610517:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix some mistal mistakes  https://review.openstack.org/26484617:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: Fix missing jinja2 in source images for mesos  https://review.openstack.org/26588217:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-mesos: Specify tests directory for oslo_debug_helper  https://review.openstack.org/26517217:36
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sdakefinally some email threads for kolla !!17:48
sdakegood job folks!17:48
sdakeit only took a year :)17:48
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sdakeinc0 did alicja move to the us or still in poland(?)17:59
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openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Vagrant multinode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26224218:00
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Documenting Ansible deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26390918:00
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Fetching IP addresses for vagrant-hostmanager from libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/26387818:00
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: kolla-mesos-ansible script  https://review.openstack.org/26390718:00
openstackgerritMichal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Add Ansible playbooks for deploying Mesos  https://review.openstack.org/26390618:00
nihilifersdake: you say that we're becoming more agile by sending mails? ;)18:00
sdakeemail slows things down18:01
sdakewhich is good on big decision points18:01
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sdakei love our irc culture18:01
sdakeits some of the best i've seen in any openstack project i've been involved with18:01
sdakeand i definately want to keep our irc culture rolling as is :)18:02
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sdakenihilifer is there docs for mesos18:02
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sdakefor the kolla mesos i mean18:02
nihilifersdake: so far we have this http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla-mesos/18:03
nihiliferthe changes about vagrant which are on review bring more stuff about building environment18:03
sdakenice let me read all of it18:03
sdakecan we just get all the docs in the kolla repo?18:03
sdakeor did that get rejected during reviews18:04
sdakehave to keep in mind i was out most of december with medical problems related to my tooth18:04
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nihiliferumm... we thought that docs specific for mesos should go to kolla-mesos18:04
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bmacei tend to agree.  odd having docs which describe doing something that you need to pull a separate repo to accomplish.18:05
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nihiliferyep, i think that no one disagreed on this when asalkeld was introducing docs18:06
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SamYapledocs for mesos in mesos +118:11
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SamYaplenihilifer: i got thinking about our little mesos/ansible code sharing conundrum18:12
SamYaplewe should break out ansible into kolla-ansible which deps on kolla (for kolla-ansible deploy tools) and you could make kolla-mesos dep on kolla-ansible in a way you only reuse some of the ansible parts (like the libs). the kolla-ansible repo would only be a few MB.18:13
SamYapleidk thats what i got thinking about18:13
SamYapleinc0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266105/ docs changes don't require TrivalFix tags or bugs under any circumstances18:17
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sdakesamyaple no they dont but don't reject if they have them18:23
sdakeit causes no harm18:23
sdakei usuallyl put  trivialfix on doc fixes18:23
sdakeok re mesos docs, i guess its fine to keep them separate, but a cross link between the docs would be nice18:24
sdakeits just that we hve a bunch of non-specific to the deployment method docs18:24
sdakeand ifsomeone looks at the mesos docs they will miss those common documents18:24
SamYaplesdake: its about rejecting them if they _dont_ have them, not rejecting them if they do (look at link)18:26
sdakeoh i see18:27
SamYaplesdake: on the subject of mesos docs, what it really sounds like you are saying is we need kolla docs, kolla-ansible docs, and kolla-mesos docs18:27
SamYapleand we should start the process of breaking kolla-ansible out18:27
sdakei want to make susre the timing is right on that18:28
rhalliseySamYaple, might be next cycle we break out.  Still need to tackle upgrades & big tent18:28
sdakei dont want to do anything to impede upgrades18:28
sdakeif there is nothign else we do this cycle, we must absolutely have upgrades of atleast openstack services18:28
SamYaplerhallisey: dont give him excuses he will latch on!18:28
rhalliseylol18:28
sdakei was already latched prior to rhallisey saying that18:28
SamYaplerhallisey: but i agree on the upgrade bit, not the big tent18:29
sdakelisten guys, if we don't deliver upgrades, it will be a big blow to our project18:29
rhalliseyupgrade is def #118:29
SamYaplei know sdake, but we do need to break out before it gets harder18:29
sdakeya who cares about velocity of big tent implementation18:29
sdakei mean i care sort of18:29
SamYaplei dont htink it will impact upgrades, but hey no one seems to care bout that since the review has been sitting up there for months18:29
jpeelersdake: speaking of cycles, how about those midcycle hotel recommendations?18:29
sdakebut compared to upgrades18:29
rhalliseyI thought we did18:29
rhalliseylol18:29
SamYapleweeks*18:29
sdakejpeeler had contractors over all day yesterday asking t o borrow tools and asking for this and that18:29
sdakeso basically i got shit done18:29
jpeelersdake: just a friendly reminder18:30
sdakejpeeler i'll be doing that today18:30
rhalliseySamYaple, what's there to do in Spartanburg18:30
SamYaplerhallisey: drink18:30
rhalliseyperfect18:30
SamYaplei think you want to ask about greenville though18:30
rhalliseyyes rather greenville18:31
SamYaplerhallisey: drink18:31
rhalliseyyes18:31
SamYaple:P there is actually a nice river through the center of town18:31
SamYapleits quite nice18:31
rhalliseyya I've been there a bunch18:31
rhalliseybeen to the BWM factory18:31
sdakesam is going to recommend 3 places to eat for dinner and we will vote first day on where we are going18:31
SamYapleyea i live right near there18:31
rhalliseyactually that's spartanburg18:31
sdakeand i'll tie break ;)18:32
SamYaplei think its technically spartanburg rhallisey, but its closer to greenvile18:32
SamYaplebasically its dead center between the two18:32
rhalliseyit's nice.  I like SC18:32
SamYapleYea. i miss mytle beach though. thats where i hail from18:33
SamYaplebeen in the upstate long enough though18:33
sdakeSamYaple you can have split repositories when I have upgrades of all openstack services (not infrastructure) - deal? :)18:33
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rhalliseywow myrtle beach is amazing18:34
rhalliseyI like Charleston & Myrtle beach in SC18:34
SamYaplesdake: only a deal if you plan on reviewing them18:34
SamYapleotherwise well never get anywhere18:35
sdakejust a note for folks booking hotels for greenville, fly to the greenville airport, not anywhere else18:35
SamYaple(we could have upgrades done if we had reviews)18:35
sdakeyes i am going to start picking up my reviews slack18:35
sdakefolks I need to let everyone know as well18:35
sdakeI have a house remodel underway18:35
SamYaplenot just you i mean in general18:35
SamYaplepeople are afraid of the upgrades i think18:35
sdakeI am putting tile down wherever there is carpet, and turning a bedroom into a walk in closet18:35
SamYapletranslation: moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoney18:36
sdakeas a result, I may be a little laggy on some days for the enxt 2-3 weeks18:36
sdakeon other days when nothing is happening i'll be here from 8am-10pm18:36
sdakeso my kids download rate and upload rate is 950mbit/sec and 850mbit/sec18:37
sdakeafter i had the contractors over yesterday18:37
sdaketo hardwire cat618:37
sdakei think I can run 10gig on my cat6 as well but not sure18:38
sdakespeedtest.net results18:38
sdakemy wireless 5g on macbook 15" laptop is 350mb down 250mb up18:38
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inc0I think I'll visit mountains in SC18:41
sdakeanyone with a mac that uses outlook know how to turn on indented quoting?18:41
inc0mountains looks nice there18:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-mesos: Add Ansible playbooks for deploying Mesos  https://review.openstack.org/26390618:41
sdakei figured it out once but can't find the settings or web page18:42
sdakefor my newer laptop18:42
SamYapleinc0: I will go with you! it will be cold18:42
inc0I like cold18:42
SamYapleinc0: i love hiking, there are some decent places to hike here18:42
rhalliseyinc0, count me in :D18:42
inc0I don't have my winter clothes tho, I might have to buy something18:42
rhalliseyI'm an outdoor person too18:43
SamYapleanyone been to table rock?18:43
SamYapleits a decent trail with a nice view at the end18:43
rhalliseynope18:43
inc0so, how about we stay there few more days and go hiking together? I really need mountains18:43
SamYapleinc0: I would offer my house up, but I *may* not have it yet18:43
SamYaplei should be closing 2 days before midcycle18:44
SamYaplebut who knows18:44
inc0airbnb is ok18:44
sdakeinc0 i can't afford the hotel stay18:44
sdakeand can't exepnse airbnb18:44
inc0I was thinking expansing hotel but after midcycle moving to airbnb18:44
SamYapleshould my house close on time, I will have 2 extra rooms for people to stay extra should they want too18:46
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sdakenihilifer will eric make the kolla midcycle meeting?19:26
nihilifersdake: dunno19:28
nihiliferhmm... he's not here. i'll ask him tommorow19:29
sdakeif we plan to do this heka conversion in mitaka, it really really would be helpful to have him at hte midcycle19:29
sdakeI know everyones budgets are tight19:29
sdakeif we wait to N then it probably doesn't matter19:30
sdakehere is what I don't want to happen19:30
sdakeI don't want rsyslog taken out and heka put in, and then nothing working19:30
sdakeunderstand?19:30
sdakenihilifer ^^19:30
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sdakeSamYaple ping19:31
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sdakea cisco QA engineer has approached me wanting to contribute to the gating work19:31
nihilifersdake: ok19:31
* nihilifer have to educate himself about all these monitoring/logging/whatever technologies19:32
sdakeSamYaple can you give me a quick status of where we are today and where you recommend we go next?19:32
sdakenihilifer your petty much our poitn man for our mirantis/fuel integration19:32
sdakeso unfortunately yo uwill have to learn all these fuel techs that want ot come into kolla19:33
sdakebecause I trust you since you are aware of the code base and by your solid work19:33
sdakebut I don't know alot of these other fuel folks, and its not that I don't trust them, its just that I dont know if they understand enough of kolla to see how it would fit together and integrate19:34
sdakenihilifer understand?19:34
nihiliferyes sir ;)19:34
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SamYaplesdake: as in, where is kolla nd where do we want to be?19:35
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SamYaplehey our stacklytic stats finnaly updated!19:37
SamYapleits been 2 weeks19:38
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nihiliferSamYaple: i also was thinking aboyt how we can share commons between kolla subprojects. i also see a problem with vagrant where we're duplicating stuff19:40
nihiliferand it seems that i had to fix things that also occur in main kolla repo, but weren't discover19:41
nihiliferi.e. dhcp leases19:41
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nihiliferthe main question here is - do we can install ansible modules as librries somehow?19:42
SamYaplenihilifer: kinda19:43
SamYapleyou can specify a library path with ansible at run time19:43
nihiliferthe only thing that comes to my mind is to have a dummy pip package storing ansible modules somwhere in /usr/share nad then all ansible runners (from kolla-ansible, kolla-mesos, kolla-anythingnewandmorehipster) pointing to them as their library19:43
SamYapleor before hand19:43
SamYapleso it will pck up those modules19:43
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sdakeSamYaple sorroy was picking up rugrats from school19:43
sdakeso yes to your question19:43
nihiliferSamYaple: ok, so seems that your idea is similar or even the same19:44
SamYaplein this case if we had kolla-ansible installed then you could do (i forget the option exactly) ansble-playbook --path-to-library /usr/local/share/kolla/ansible/library/19:45
nihilifermaybe for vagrant there is some way to use common ruby library19:45
sdakenihilifer fwiw I wont be entertaining splitting the repos until upgrades are done19:45
sdakebut this is still a discussion we can hav eat the midcycle19:45
SamYaplesdake: this has been ongoing and will continue being ongoing19:45
nihilifersdake: ok19:45
sdakeSamYaple I mean yes to your question about the gating19:46
sdakeI can put this guy to work on gating where should he be working19:46
nihiliferinc0: btw, sorry for giving always only +1. i'll try to play with your upgrade playbooks on multinode tommorow19:46
inc0nihilifer, no worries, I do want more eyes on it19:46
inc0it's just quite some time this review hangs there19:47
SamYaplesdake: the gating is stalling due to no RAM in the gate. we need to reduce the usage of RAM by the different applications. thats config options more than anything19:47
inc0and upgrades is one of our priorities19:47
sdake#1 priority19:47
SamYaplesdake: with reduction of RAM I can finish out the multinode gate (which is almost done)19:47
inc0what sdake said;)19:47
sdakeSamYaple so should this guy sort out how to get the ram usage down on the single node gate?19:48
sdakei want actual functional testing of the deployment19:49
sdakepbourke was working on that, did that work stall?19:49
SamYaplesdake: we are no where near functional testing19:49
SamYaplewe need to use a whole lot less ram19:49
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SamYapleor drop services (like heat is going first)19:49
SamYaplegetting rid of heat, horizon, cinder was enough to get a samll cirros image going19:50
sdakehad  to get rid of 3 services huh19:50
* sdake ughs19:50
SamYapleim not sure teh config options to start reducing ram usage19:50
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SamYaplei can limit ram usage per docker container, but thats not super helpful19:50
SamYapleright now our gate leaves us with about 100MB on a full deploy19:51
SamYapleit times out alot of times because of actually OOM'ing19:51
SamYapleadditionally, new gates (bluebox ovh) dont have a swap disk19:51
sdakeand we can't use swap?19:51
* sdake groans19:52
SamYapleso we dont have a seperate disk for docker or swap, which means loopback and swapfile19:52
SamYaplelast time i tried the the gate legit timed out from being to slow19:52
sdakelets say you had a qe engineer 100% available to work on kolla, what would you have them do?19:52
sdakesort out how to reduce ram usage in the gates?19:53
SamYaplereduce ram usage of serivces would be first thing19:53
SamYapleso that may be simple, or complex19:53
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SamYapleit may require dropping workers to 1 for each service or more complex, i dont know19:53
SamYaplehavent had a chance to work on it19:53
sdakeya your not superman - we have a dude that wants to work on this stuff i think more or less full time19:54
SamYapleonce thats done I (or he) need to get the swap/nodisk sitaution figured out19:54
SamYapleunify so we never fail on non-rax and hp gates19:54
sdakeso if I can get him integrated into the project it would be helpful :)19:54
SamYaplefinally the multinode is waiting on both of those things above19:54
SamYaplei have the experimental gate in place and working, but i run out of RAM19:54
sdakeSamYaple  fantastic information, I'll try to get him to work on it then19:55
sdakeI think one easy option is to reduce the number of processes per service19:55
sdakefor example the api servers run like 8 api services19:55
SamYapleyes, and tahts easy, but it doesnt save _that_ much ram19:55
sdakewe could drop that down to 119:55
SamYaplethey default to one thread per core19:55
sdakeand I guess we are miles away from gating ceph19:56
SamYaplewith reach project-config/nodepool changes even further19:56
sdakeparsecs ;:)19:56
SamYaplehp is going away and bluebox and the ovh gates dont have a seperate disk19:57
SamYaplenot everyone uses lvm19:57
SamYaplethe only common point is.... file based ugh19:57
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sdakeceph file basad would wfm19:57
SamYapletoo slow. gate would time out19:57
sdakeI dont know if that would actualy work though19:57
SamYaplestated above19:57
SamYaplewe may be able to do somethign fancy and prevent cloud-init from running and expanding to the full disk size. then we would be good19:58
sdakei htought that timeout stuff ws about the gating using swap19:58
SamYapleusing a swapfile19:58
sdakewhich cat wants to co-present with me at summit in austin on kolla19:59
sdakeSamYaple are you doing a lab presentation?19:59
SamYapleyea20:00
sdakeif your willing pleaase add me as a copresenter to that, it might help your chances of acceptance20:01
SamYaplewe have already talked about this sdake20:01
sdakei'll let you run the show20:01
sdakeright20:01
sdakejust ocnfirming20:01
SamYapleyou can be on that, i need help20:01
SamYapleyup20:02
inc0sdake, what are you going to present?20:02
SamYaplelabs are hard for single person20:02
inc0I'll do upgrades talk with Sam20:02
sdakeinc0 here is the deal20:02
SamYaple2 or 3 is useful20:02
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sdakewe get 1 talk  for kolla at summit if we get an ytalk at all20:02
inc0you think it's that bad20:02
inc0?20:02
sdakewe get one lab possibly as well20:02
sdakei think what makes sense is sa a community we decide what talk we want to present20:03
sdakeand prepare as a team, but have 1-2 presenters20:04
sdakeupgrades seems like a fantastic topic20:04
inc0if you're ok with my heavy slavic accent20:04
sdaketypicallly the way it works is 1 person presents, and 1 person demos20:05
inc0so what we did in Vancouver is we splitted content between us20:05
inc0and it worked pretty well20:05
sdakedont understand20:05
rhalliseyinc0, I thought you changed to a thick southern drawl20:05
inc0nah, I'm keeping slavic accent20:05
inc0people assume I'm russian and become afraid of mafia20:06
rhalliseylol20:06
sdakelol20:06
sdakeit also helps our chances of being accepted if the speaker is a PTL20:06
sdakealso heps our chances if the talk includes a demo recorded or live20:06
inc0I wanted live really20:07
inc0adrenaline is cool20:07
sdakeyes which means we need a pre-deployed liberty since upgrades take 20 minutes20:08
sdakeanother possible topic is mesos, although it is unclear to me if that work will be in demoable shape20:08
sdakenihilifer any thoughts ?20:08
sdakeI think we get the most bang for our respective buck with the upgrade talk20:08
sdakeSamYaple hae you found a 3rd victim for the lab?20:09
inc0so sdake SamYaple and me will do upgrades talk?20:10
inc03 of us?20:10
sdakeinc0 i think it makes more sense for me to give the presentation since sselection committtees prefer ptls over nonptls20:11
sdakebut we could do 320:11
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sdakei know we could make that work20:11
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inc0well I'd like to be there since it will be my and Sams work mostly (probably)20:12
sdakethe foundation doesn't like when people submit a bunch of speakers on a talk unless its a panel20:12
sdakeinc0 wfm20:12
sdakeok how aobut this, i'll give the main preso, one of you can show the liberty environment as is, and one of you can show the upgrade process20:13
SamYaplewe are doing a 3 person upgrade talk?20:13
SamYaplethat seems like too much20:13
sdakei think it would  flow pretty well20:14
sdakeif you guys want to fly without me and take the risk, we could do that20:15
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sdakebut trust me when i say having a ptl presesnt is hugely beneficial20:15
inc0I have nothing against you in presentation, since we'll get one shot at this we don't want to have competition in kolla presentations imho20:16
sdakeupgrades are the missing link in kolla, that is what we need to present20:16
SamYaplei was saying ill just bow out. If my lab gets accepted tahts what I want most. me and inc0 have been doing upgrades is all so we have teh upgrade info20:19
sdakeSamYaple sounds good bro20:20
sdakeI relaly really really want a lab20:20
sdakepelase dear god get a lab20:20
sdakelets get good coverage too, atleast 3-4 people to run it20:20
sdakerather assit you in running it20:21
sdakea lab would be huge20:21
SamYapleyes thats teh thing. lab with 3+ people == perfect. talk with 3 people is... well threes a crowd20:21
sdakeinc0 competittions in kolla presentations are ok, there is just limited spots inthe container track20:21
SamYaplei think he was talking in-fighting over who is doign the presentation20:22
sdakeand kolla is sitll a hot topic in the foundation so we get a little bit of love from the selection committtee, but not 20% of the slot spots love :)20:22
sdakeSamYaple was that a misfire?20:22
inc0so, let's try to get both20:22
sdakewell lab is a different track from the container  track20:23
sdakeso there is a completel ydifferent set of people that pick those talks20:23
sdakeso inc0, you be willing to copresent with me kolla and execute the role sam handled last time but with an upgrade bent?20:24
inc0so me+sdake will propose upgrades talk and Sam+sdake+someone else from core team for a lab?20:24
inc0yeah, why nopt20:24
sdakeinc0 your welcome to help with the lab too :)20:24
sdakeSamYaple  will prepare it and hopefully get us all setup20:24
sdakeand we need 1 more person, possibly pbourke?20:25
SamYaplewell after last time im not waiting on you to prep it :P20:25
SamYapleyea pbourke_ is on the lab with me20:25
sdakedude our talk was a 9 out of 1020:25
sdakeand i wrote it in 2 hoours :)20:25
SamYaplethats a B!20:25
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sdakeconsidering the deployment foxtrotted upand still worked, I was amazed :)20:26
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sdakeinc0 one more advantage of co-present iwth me is I have 10gige hardware ready to rock as well all high end core i7 with 32gb ram20:27
sdake3 node HA20:27
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SamYaple(my servers are better)20:29
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sdakepossible20:30
sdakeso did folks see what ironic/neutron are doing to manage their release process?20:30
sdakethey are dropping blueprints and milestones20:31
sdakeand relying entirely on specs20:31
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SamYaplemilestones i would like dropped to be honest20:32
SamYaplebut i like specs20:32
SamYaplei like blueprints too20:32
sdakei really llike milestones20:32
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SamYaplei know you do20:32
sdakeit gives a sense of timing20:32
SamYaplemaybe one day well hit one ;)20:32
sdakehaha20:33
SamYaple:D20:33
sdakewe have hit a couple actually20:33
sdakebut this lat one was a fail20:33
sdakethe ones we hit were earlier in the lifecycle of kolla20:33
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sdakeas things get more complex its harder to hit our milestones because our gates are not ideal20:33
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sdakeif our gates were 100% trustworthy our deadlines would be 100% on target20:37
SamYapleoh come on thats a cop out. its not the gates its the you werent here for a month past the deadline20:37
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stvnoyeshi asalkeld20:53
asalkeldhi stvnoyes20:53
asalkeldyou ready for a review?20:53
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Add some additional debug to gate  https://review.openstack.org/26656820:53
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Test file-backend for gate  https://review.openstack.org/26656920:53
stvnoyesi have a question about keystone. it's not getting thru setup20:53
asalkeldok20:53
SamYaplestvnoyes: on mesos?20:53
stvnoyesin extend_start it gets thru the kill httpd and then dies20:53
asalkeldhave a look on the mesos UI and look at stderr20:54
stvnoyeswhen i comment out the kill it makes it thru extend_start20:54
stvnoyesno error in stderr of keystone container20:54
asalkeldstvnoyes: i submitted a patch for that20:55
asalkeldhttps://github.com/openstack/kolla-mesos/blob/master/config/keystone/keystone_config.yml.j2#L3320:55
asalkeldit wasn't using bash20:55
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asalkeldcan you make sure you have "bash kolla_mesos_extend_start"20:55
stvnoyeshmmm ii thought i was up to date. let me check. thx20:56
asalkeld(that's the most obvious thing i can think of)20:56
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stvnoyesok i have that change. i can see the echo messages in the logs all the way down to "status 0" after the kill. then it goes quiet.20:57
asalkeldhold on, let me look20:59
stvnoyesdo you know why httpd is being killed at the end of extend_start? I couldn't see anything like that in the kolla code (though I could have missed it)20:59
asalkeldstvnoyes: so the difference is kolla runs that container twice20:59
asalkeldwe run it once20:59
asalkeldso it runs apache once just to configure stuff21:00
asalkeldthen we start it "properly"21:00
stvnoyesok that makes sense21:01
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asalkeldstvnoyes: so nothing interesting in the stderr/stdout for that container?21:02
stvnoyesthe logs i have right now are from the session where I commented out the httpd kill. I'll re-run. it'll take a few minutes.21:03
asalkeldsure, thanks - can you then post to paste.openstack.org21:04
asalkeldbrb: getting coffee21:04
SamYapleso asalkeld stvnoyes last month we moved account creation out of the keystone container like that. so you _should_ need to do that anymore. that said i recognize kolla-mesos-extend-start still does that21:05
SamYapleif there are issue, i would recommend not doing it in the container anymore (we had issue). see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257800/21:06
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stvnoyesSamYaple: thanks for the info. do you remember what the problem was doing that inside the container?21:07
SamYaplejeffrey4l fixed it, but if i remember there was a hang of apache2 which was causing the user creates to fail21:11
SamYaplebut we didn't kill the process we just exited21:12
SamYapleyea stvnoyes we didnt do this whole section https://github.com/openstack/kolla-mesos/blob/master/config/keystone/templates/extend_start.sh.j2#L43-4721:13
SamYapleso any hang you might be seeing, we never did21:13
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openstackgerritHui Kang proposed openstack/kolla: Fix missing nova instance directory in nova_compute bootstrap  https://review.openstack.org/26657521:16
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inc0SamYaple, quick question, any good way to avoid "failed to parse json" during ceph deploy in Fetching keys task?21:21
asalkeldstvnoyes: we should do that eqivelent change too21:21
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inc0I get error and it's not helpful at all21:21
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sdakebtw ansible 2.0 is out folks21:32
sdakethey released today or yeesterday21:32
sdakethat is  something we may need to tackle in n or later21:32
dmsimardtoday21:33
dmsimardI'm liking the playbook blocks, tried them and it works well but not in every scope21:33
stvnoyesasalkeld: np, i'll take a look at the change for that21:34
asalkeldthanks21:34
dmsimardansible 2 also has the new openstack modules backed by shade thanks to monty21:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-mesos: kolla-mesos-ansible script  https://review.openstack.org/26390721:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-mesos: Vagrant multinode deployment  https://review.openstack.org/26224221:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-mesos: Fetching IP addresses for vagrant-hostmanager from libvirt  https://review.openstack.org/26387821:40
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dmsimardSamYaple: are you familiar with that issue at all ? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/open-iscsi/GhKfxIix4ds21:57
dmsimardI thought it was related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1460129 but apparently it's another thing21:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1460129 in kolla "Cinder needs tgtd" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sam Yaple (s8m)21:57
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SamYapledmsimard: but no linting!22:02
SamYapledmsimard: ansible 2.0 ansible-lint is borked with blocks22:02
SamYapledmsimard: very familiar22:03
SamYaplewith the bug22:03
SamYapleinc0: i mean i would run the command in the container. thats where i would start debugging22:04
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dmsimardSamYaple: ansible-lint is not yet comaptible22:07
dmsimardthere's issues/pull requests opened22:07
dmsimardSamYaple: back to the bug (google groups link) what's the actual impact ? None since default we use is Ceph ?22:07
dmsimardi.e, we use krbd instead of iscsi22:08
SamYapledmsimard: none since we use --net=host for all of kolla22:08
SamYapleand we dont use krbd, or rather qemu doesnt22:09
SamYapleit uses the libs to talk directly to teh cluster22:09
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dmsimarduh, something has to mount the volume somewhere ?22:09
SamYaplenope22:09
SamYapleqemu talks directly to the ceph cluster for reads and writes22:09
SamYapleno mounting22:10
dmsimardwow, I didn't even know it was able to do that22:10
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dmsimardis that new ? Got to read on that22:10
SamYapleno its how its always been22:10
SamYaplefor openstack that is22:10
dmsimardwth? lol22:10
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SamYapleyea it was merged into qemu in like 201122:11
SamYaplelibrados support that is22:11
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dmsimardwow, I was always under the impression that there was a mount operation involved somehow22:12
dmsimardI'll go to sleep less stupid tonight22:12
SamYapleyoure one of the lucky 10000 today22:13
dmsimardthere's always a relevant xkcd22:14
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* dmsimard looks at it again22:15
dmsimardI'm not 30 yet so I'm safe22:15
dmsimardwhew.22:15
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SamYaplegive it time22:21
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Test file-backend for gate  https://review.openstack.org/26656922:22
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openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla: Test file-backend for gate  https://review.openstack.org/26656922:36
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