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| sdake | my 750 ssd is broken | 00:22 |
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| SamYaple | sdake: which one? 1.2TB? | 00:59 |
| SamYaple | mine are going strong | 00:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qiu Yu proposed openstack/kolla: Add `restart_container` action in kolla_docker module https://review.openstack.org/271112 | 01:39 |
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| sdake | ya 1.2tb, just ordered a rma on it | 03:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qiu Yu proposed openstack/kolla: Bounce cinder service after config change https://review.openstack.org/271126 | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hui Kang proposed openstack/kolla: Add an ansible role for mongodb https://review.openstack.org/269393 | 05:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | weiyu proposed openstack/kolla: Drop `delegate_to` and `run_once` in bootstrap task https://review.openstack.org/271148 | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/kolla: add the kolla-build.conf generation doc https://review.openstack.org/271157 | 07:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/kolla: add the kolla-build.conf generation doc https://review.openstack.org/271157 | 07:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marc Koderer proposed openstack/kolla: Add binary support for Manila container https://review.openstack.org/269487 | 08:05 |
| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/kolla: Add a sort of wrapper script to invoke flake8 https://review.openstack.org/271174 | 08:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/kolla: Add a sort of wrapper script to invoke flake8 https://review.openstack.org/271174 | 08:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/kolla: Add a sort of wrapper script to invoke flake8 https://review.openstack.org/271174 | 08:29 |
| openstackgerrit | ting wang proposed openstack/kolla: Add a sort of wrapper script to invoke flake8 https://review.openstack.org/271174 | 08:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/kolla: encrypt the password file by ansible vault https://review.openstack.org/271184 | 08:40 |
| ajafo_ | o/ | 08:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Added Kibana and its deployment. https://review.openstack.org/270214 | 09:31 |
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| mkoderer | hi, is there a M/L thread that describes why Kubernetes is not used in Kola? | 10:02 |
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| pbourke | mkoderer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255450/ should tell you what you need to know | 10:05 |
| mkoderer | pbourke: thx. I will discuss with the team whether we can help you with this | 10:08 |
| mkoderer | we have some kubernetes devs here | 10:08 |
| pbourke | mkoderer: sounds good. rhallisey who submitted the blueprint would be a good guy to get in touch with | 10:08 |
| mkoderer | pbourke: k cool thx | 10:09 |
| pbourke | he's usually available on this channel | 10:09 |
| nihilifer | and maybe that will be discussed on midcycle | 10:09 |
| nihilifer | and there's definetely one topic which IMO should be solved or at least planned before implementing k8s support - sharing commons | 10:10 |
| nihilifer | i think that using etcd and k8s would share very similar logic to kolla-mesos | 10:10 |
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| nihilifer | only tools are changing | 10:11 |
| nihilifer | i'm not sure for now hot that may be handled | 10:11 |
| nihilifer | how* | 10:11 |
| nihilifer | and maybe stevedore-izing some things here would be better than writing a new tool for etcd/k8s from scratch | 10:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Ironic ubuntu binary container https://review.openstack.org/267689 | 10:16 |
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| mkoderer | nihilifer: pbourke: will it be possible to join the midcycle remotely? | 10:37 |
| pbourke | mkoderer: not really unfortunately | 10:39 |
| pbourke | mkoderer: I think there'll be a laptop in the corner of the room broadcasting but not much chance for participation | 10:39 |
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| mkoderer | pbourke: will be hard to get the budget for a interconti flight | 10:40 |
| pbourke | mkoderer: i know :( | 10:40 |
| pbourke | mkoderer: check later with SamYaple and sdake they're running the event | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Added Elasticearch and its deployment. https://review.openstack.org/267714 | 10:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: [WIP] Check whether the service is enabled https://review.openstack.org/270152 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Use docker_remove_delay for auto-removing containers https://review.openstack.org/270213 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Remove rsyslog from all profiles https://review.openstack.org/270151 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: [WIP] Use private network in default settings https://review.openstack.org/269545 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Use volume for MariaDB https://review.openstack.org/270252 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: [WIP] Add neutron config https://review.openstack.org/265109 | 11:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/kolla: encrypt the password file by ansible vault https://review.openstack.org/271184 | 11:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Allen Gao proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Use auth_type instead of deprecated auth_plugin https://review.openstack.org/269045 | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix deprecated parameter name in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/271073 | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Lemoine proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Logging with Heka spec https://review.openstack.org/270906 | 13:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Added Kibana and its deployment. https://review.openstack.org/270214 | 14:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Added Elasticearch and its deployment. https://review.openstack.org/267714 | 14:31 |
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| sdake | morning | 14:37 |
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| kproskurin | Morning sdake | 14:52 |
| sdake | morning fine sir | 14:52 |
| kproskurin | Guys, do anyone else have some problems with mysql\keystone bootstraping while kolla deploy? | 14:52 |
| sdake | you mean not blocking while those processes are happening? | 14:53 |
| kproskurin | I have at least 2 problrms constantly: 1) Race condition in mysql bootstrap 2) Some random mysql crash while keystone\heat create some things in mysql | 14:53 |
| sdake | at some point you need to block | 14:53 |
| sdake | oh i understand your quewstiron now sorry | 14:54 |
| elemoine | kproskurin, I've had mysql problems | 14:54 |
| sdake | so i dont see those but i haven't run the code base reguarly for about a week | 14:54 |
| kproskurin | Oh I see. I just re-deploy like 50 times a day and I have like 5-10 successuff ones :-\ | 14:54 |
| elemoine | where nova did not want to start because mariadb was down or non-functional | 14:55 |
| sdake | are you deploying with anible or mesos? | 14:55 |
| elemoine | restarting mariadb "fixed" the problem | 14:55 |
| kproskurin | mesos, but its kinda same images and same scripts | 14:55 |
| sdake | its a different deployment workflow | 14:55 |
| kproskurin | yep | 14:55 |
| elemoine | sdake, ansible in my case – vanilla Kolla | 14:55 |
| kproskurin | We trying to address first problem via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270810/ And I just wonder if anyone have same problrms | 14:57 |
| elemoine | kproskurin, not sure this is the same problem, but I've been having problems with mariadb as well :) | 14:59 |
| kproskurin | elemoine: in vanilla kolla right? :_) | 15:00 |
| kproskurin | not in mesos one | 15:00 |
| elemoine | yep, vanilla kolla | 15:00 |
| kproskurin | Guys, anyone fammiliar with heat and openstack cli here? | 15:01 |
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| larsks | kproskurin: sure, but if you want to ask general questions, consider #openstack . | 15:08 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: I'm getting odd CI failures on kolla | 15:08 |
| dmsimard | 06:12:13 DEBUG:kolla.cmd.build:magnum-base:File contains no section headers. | 15:09 |
| dmsimard | 06:12:13 DEBUG:kolla.cmd.build:magnum-base:file: file:///etc/yum.repos.d/sdake-openstack-magnum-epel-7.repo, line: 1 | 15:09 |
| dmsimard | Such as these :P | 15:09 |
| kproskurin | well, it’s 50\50 :-) I just writing heat bootstrap for mesos and I take kolla ones from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236198/9/docker/heat/heat-api/extend_start.sh and it’s looks like outdated for openstack cli 2.0+ | 15:10 |
| dmsimard | Looks like curl is not following redirects and downloads the html 302 | 15:10 |
| dmsimard | I'll send a fix in | 15:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Lemoine proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Logging with Heka spec https://review.openstack.org/270906 | 15:11 |
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| sdake_ | dms - the copr repo for magnum should be removed, we shouldn't have any copr repos used in kolla for services imo | 15:13 |
| sdake_ | if they aren't available on binary - then they ust aren't available | 15:13 |
| SamYaple | kproskurin: we are removing the openstack-cli from the head extend_start.sh script, its the last place it exists | 15:13 |
| kproskurin | ouch | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack/kolla: Have curl follow redirects when downloading magnum repository https://review.openstack.org/271371 | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Hui Kang proposed openstack/kolla: Add an ansible role for mongodb https://review.openstack.org/269393 | 15:19 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: I submitted ^ regardless to fix that for the time being | 15:19 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: getting a lot of failures in builds suddenly for some reason, hunting them down right now. | 15:20 |
| dmsimard | that was one of them :) | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: add the kolla-build.conf generation doc https://review.openstack.org/271157 | 15:20 |
| dmsimard | what the hell is this one 06:12:10 INFO:kolla.cmd.build:murano-base:Step 2 : RUN echo 'binary not yet available for centos' && /bin/false | 15:21 |
| dmsimard | Should there be a mechanism to filter images that shouldn't be built ? Otherwise this returns an error because the image failed to build | 15:23 |
| dmsimard | yeah, okay, all the other failures are due to binary images not being available on centos | 15:23 |
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| SamYaple | dmsimard: we filter the output at the end | 15:30 |
| dmsimard | SamYaple: probably shouldn't even attempt to build them in the first place | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack/kolla: Have curl follow redirects when downloading magnum repository https://review.openstack.org/271378 | 15:31 |
| sdake_ | dmsimard gree there is a bug in the tracker requesting that specific peice of work | 15:32 |
| sdake_ | select building base dupon source or binary in the test tools | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Add binary support for Manila container https://review.openstack.org/269487 | 15:33 |
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| SamYaple | dmsimard: issue is they work for source, but not binary, centos but not ubuntu. Since it is all built dynamically (just drop another folder and it builds) we would have to start tracking this in some way, or build index files and parse those | 15:37 |
| SamYaple | what we have _right_ _now_ is cleaner in my opinion than those options above. but its not perfect | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | SamYaple: yeah I don't know what's the best approach, each image would need to expose in a standard way which distro and type (source/binary) it supports and we could match that | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | I'm trying to fit kolla into the RDO CI pipeline right now but I can't because there are "normal" failures | 15:39 |
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| nihilifer | this is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1487252 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487252 in kolla "exclusion list needs to be separate for source and binary types" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Rostecki (mrostecki) | 15:40 |
| sdake_ | dmsimard so your objective is to use kolla in rdo's ci pipeline but your blocked because? | 15:41 |
| dmsimard | FWIW we've started promoting tested repositories on a more regular basis now, with larger coverage than before so I will bump kolla to use current-passed-ci | 15:41 |
| nihilifer | some months ago i was told to not work on it, because of restructure-template bp | 15:41 |
| nihilifer | which is not approved yet | 15:41 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: because I'm not expecting errors from tox -e buildcentosbinary | 15:41 |
| sdake_ | what is restructure template | 15:41 |
| nihilifer | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/restructure-template | 15:42 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: thats a topic we were going to talk about at the midcycle i believe | 15:42 |
| sdake_ | what does one have to do wit hthe other? | 15:42 |
| sdake_ | nih^^ | 15:42 |
| sdake_ | dmsimard roger i understand your issue now | 15:42 |
| SamYaple | using includes and more advanced jinja2 things to restrucutre, no? | 15:42 |
| sdake_ | well a restructure is unlikely to happen for mitaka | 15:43 |
| nihilifer | sdake_: my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233939/ was rejected on irc in october | 15:43 |
| sdake_ | we just have too much other higher priority work | 15:43 |
| nihilifer | you told me that this resctucture thing has to be done first | 15:43 |
| SamYaple | fyi infra is waiting on _us_! How crazy is that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270837/ | 15:43 |
| sdake_ | nihilifer patches don't ge trjected on irc they get -2ed in the review process | 15:43 |
| sdake_ | nihilifer listen if thre was a communication problem i apologie for that | 15:44 |
| sdake_ | but please lets get the separate exclusion lists going | 15:44 |
| sdake_ | it would be nice if that were part of the build rather then part o the tet thtough | 15:44 |
| sdake_ | so dmsimard can be unblocked | 15:44 |
| nihilifer | yes, i think we need distinguishing between saource and binary in tests for now | 15:44 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: we need more than that | 15:44 |
| SamYaple | that wont unblock dmsimard | 15:45 |
| SamYaple | it has to be per distro and type | 15:45 |
| nihilifer | sdake_: no worries about "communication problem". i was totally green to the project this time | 15:45 |
| SamYaple | source/binary ubuntu/centos | 15:45 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: ok | 15:45 |
| nihilifer | still, sounds doable by making separate lists in test | 15:45 |
| SamYaple | agreed | 15:45 |
| sdake_ | I don't understand why we cant have tox use the profiles | 15:46 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: gates converted to btrfs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266569/ | 15:46 |
| sdake_ | nice SamYaple | 15:46 |
| SamYaple | sdake_: the build gates build _all_ the deploy gates do use profiles | 15:46 |
| sdake_ | listen folks i have some tile stuff i need to deal with for a coupel hours | 15:46 |
| sdake_ | i'll be in and out | 15:47 |
| sdake_ | dmsimard so maybe to unblock yourself you can use profiles? | 15:47 |
| sdake_ | dmsimard are you familiar with the profile feature | 15:47 |
| sdake_ | the reaon i want to unblock dmsimard is whatever work he is doing is ci related, which means more testing for kolla in some way, which means higher quality code basae | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: sort of, I'm actually trying to figure out what happened with the kolla-build.conf file, I see the tox -egenconf but I'm trying to see by what magic it lands there | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: I'm not blocked per se | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: It's just that kolla will not be (for the time being) part of the coverage that promotes repositories as having passed RDO CI | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | sdake_: We have rdo manager, packstack and puppet-openstack coverage right now | 15:48 |
| sdake_ | interesting | 15:49 |
| sdake_ | where is fuel :) | 15:49 |
| dmsimard | fuel doesn't consume RDO (yet) | 15:49 |
| dmsimard | in a release or two, or so I heard | 15:49 |
| dmsimard | I'll be happy to integrate them into our pipeline when they do :) | 15:50 |
| sdake_ | i've got to go rob my checking account to pay the tile dude, bbiaf | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack/kolla: Bump RDO delorean repositories to current-passed-ci for Mitaka https://review.openstack.org/271405 | 15:54 |
| dmsimard | rhallisey: ^ | 15:54 |
| rhallisey | roger | 15:55 |
| rhallisey | I'll check it out | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Separate exclusion list for source and binary types https://review.openstack.org/233939 | 16:01 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: sdake_: ^^ | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hui Kang proposed openstack/kolla: Add an ansible role for mongodb https://review.openstack.org/269393 | 16:03 |
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| dmsimard | nihilifer: added myself, will follow it. Thanks. | 16:09 |
| dmsimard | fwiw it makes more sense to me to filter based on distro/type than to try and filter for everything simultaneously | 16:09 |
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| sdake | hey folks back from robbing bank | 16:12 |
| sdake | nihilifer still marked wip is it such? | 16:14 |
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| nihilifer | sdake: i'll drop wip flag if gate will pass. honestly to say, i justs didn't do anything to the commit msg | 16:15 |
| nihilifer | just* | 16:15 |
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| asalkeld | hi guys, is the gate (pip8 / argparse issue) fixed? | 16:29 |
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| SamYaple | asalkeld: i think the last remenants of that are fixed | 16:40 |
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| sdake | hey folks i am ain agile sprint planning meetings itnernll for the full day | 16:48 |
| sdake | i will be avilaabl via irc, but unavaiable to review patches | 16:48 |
| sdake | i'll ctch up on the review queue this weeeknd | 16:48 |
| sdake | thanks for the flexiblity ;) | 16:48 |
| sdake | i wil announce the release tuesday but fwiw i tagged his orning | 16:49 |
| sdake | was haing troubel with my agent timing out finally got a tag on the mac | 16:49 |
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| sdake | also my gear is busted so i have to reintall centos - groan | 16:50 |
| sdake | can anythng else go wrong ;( | 16:50 |
| sdake | anyone need anything from me re midcycle? | 16:50 |
| dmsimard | sdake: your keyboard? :) | 16:50 |
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| sdake | pelase rsvp if you haven't | 16:50 |
| sdake | dmsimard good thing i have a laptop backup | 16:51 |
| sdake | dmsimard i run my life in highly avialble fashion :) | 16:56 |
| sdake | SamYaple re the comments ont he confusions ifdef, your logic looks good so lets go sans comments | 16:57 |
| SamYaple | which comments? | 16:57 |
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| sdake | ubuntu container | 16:57 |
| sdake | vhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/266311/ | 16:58 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266311/ | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | looking | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | oh right. i pinged you about that the other day. | 16:58 |
| SamYaple | must have gotten lost in the noise | 16:59 |
| sdake | missed ping | 16:59 |
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| sdake | but it is all settled ajafo_ is going to fix it up and we can merge then | 16:59 |
| SamYaple | sdake: ajafo_ alreayd reverted to no comments, thats what you are saying, yes? | 17:02 |
| sdake | yup | 17:03 |
| SamYaple | ok i think we are on the same page then | 17:04 |
| sdake | i just w+ the patch | 17:04 |
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| ajafo_ | thx | 17:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Cinder ubuntu binary container https://review.openstack.org/266311 | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Have curl follow redirects when downloading magnum repository https://review.openstack.org/271378 | 18:06 |
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| SamYaple | where my mesos people at? nihilifer asalkeld https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270989/ | 18:18 |
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| unicell | SamYaple: have some time to discuss a little bit about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/restart-after-conf-change? | 18:24 |
| SamYaple | unicell: sure, im happy to discuss it here. we will need to rehash it during the meeting/ML | 18:26 |
| SamYaple | but we can talk about it for sure | 18:27 |
| unicell | yup, I can join the meeting for discussion. but just want to sync up a little bit on the general direction | 18:28 |
| SamYaple | alright | 18:28 |
| unicell | my understanding of Kolla is that it can do full life cycle management of openstack deployment | 18:28 |
| unicell | so in operation, once someone changed the configuration, need to ensure service can pickup the settings | 18:29 |
| SamYaple | agreed | 18:29 |
| unicell | that's the purpose of the bluepint. similar with other configuration management tool, ansible can handle conf -> service notification thing | 18:30 |
| unicell | BTW, what is the timeslot for the meeting? | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | unicell: 1630 UTC | 18:31 |
| unicell | I simply uploaded those 2 patch, so that we can have a reference implementation to discuss more details | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | unicell: ansible can handle config in _some_ cases yes, but we don't want to be blindly restarting services because a config changed | 18:31 |
| unicell | 1630 UTC today? | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | unicell: wednesday | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | its in the title | 18:32 |
| SamYaple | So the issue isn't what you are trying to accomplish, its how | 18:32 |
| SamYaple | I am 100% onboard with what you are trying to accomplish, but how you are doing it is a problem | 18:32 |
| unicell | SamYaple: sure, what I'm trying to accomplish is the bp part, how is the code part :) | 18:33 |
| unicell | but code review is blocked until bp approved I guess | 18:33 |
| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack/kolla: Have curl follow redirects when downloading magnum repository https://review.openstack.org/271468 | 18:33 |
| SamYaple | the -2 doesnt stop code review or new patches, it just prevents merging | 18:34 |
| SamYaple | but for the record, I am also -2 on the approach of the code at this time | 18:34 |
| unicell | I see. I thought people tend to ignore -2 patches.. any suggestion for the improvement? | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-mesos: stop looking /etc/kolla and add missing config https://review.openstack.org/267260 | 18:35 |
| unicell | or anything you not feeling comfortable with? | 18:36 |
| unicell | with current implementation | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | well you may be right about people ignoring -2 patches and i dont know how to handle that (i dont ignore -2), but merging them isn't an option at this stage which and thats what the -2 is for | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | yes we can talk about that :) | 18:37 |
| SamYaple | any stopping of services should be a known action for the deployer. If the dpeloyer wants to add more services and he ends up restarting/changing nodes he didnt intend to becuase a config file changed | 18:37 |
| SamYaple | so in the case of upgrades, yes things will be interrupted | 18:37 |
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| SamYaple | the playbooks right now only add new things, they don't change running services | 18:38 |
| SamYaple | in the past we have discussed a config-update playbook (like the way we do updates now) to update config, then its an explict action on the part of the operator | 18:39 |
| SamYaple | but to address a major issue with your current desire (philosphy aside) relying on ansibles 'changed' param to determine whether the container needs a restart is a flaw | 18:39 |
| unicell | are you saying that, in upgrade path, like changing upgrade_level in nova, with current impl, it may end up boucing unneeded nodes/service? | 18:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: Separate exclusion list for source and binary types https://review.openstack.org/233939 | 18:40 |
| SamYaple | no i mean that changing _any_ configs will bounce services. that shouldnt ever happen without an explict action from the operator | 18:40 |
| SamYaple | we can add new services on the fly, stopping/restarting running services is a problem | 18:41 |
| unicell | that part I don't understand, config change only gonna impact nodes in corresponding hostgroup. and only if config for that specific service change lead to that specific service restart | 18:42 |
| SamYaple | ok, well ill give you an example from an operator (real world here) | 18:43 |
| unicell | yup, that'd be helpful | 18:43 |
| SamYaple | so the playbooks havent been run in 4 months. Preping for a maintenance the first task would be to run the idempotent playbooks and ensure everything is working (no changes). in running those playbooks a config option changed and restarted a bunch of services | 18:44 |
| SamYaple | who changed teh config option? someone/something in the past 4 months did | 18:44 |
| SamYaple | there was no way to know that | 18:44 |
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| SamYaple | nothing should change in the environment that restarts RUNNING things | 18:45 |
| unicell | so in that case, some config items changed in 4 months, but is outside of kolla ansible playbooks? | 18:45 |
| unicell | shouldn't that config also under version management? | 18:46 |
| SamYaple | so you are talking ideally, i am talking real world | 18:46 |
| SamYaple | in the real world what i just described happens all the time | 18:46 |
| unicell | well, I'm talking about the real world. in my company, we use Puppet, but the methodology is the same | 18:46 |
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| unicell | I can give you a counter example | 18:47 |
| asalkeld | hi SamYaple looking | 18:47 |
| SamYaple | you can counter that example and make it go away? | 18:47 |
| SamYaple | or you can describe an ideal situation where that wouldnt happen? | 18:47 |
| unicell | I'm trying to say it is not the problem of playbooks | 18:47 |
| SamYaple | because that situation isn't going away, it _will_ happen | 18:47 |
| SamYaple | i agree, but we are here for the operators | 18:47 |
| SamYaple | adn this is one area where we can save the operators | 18:47 |
| unicell | ok, point token | 18:48 |
| asalkeld | SamYaple: congrats on the project announce! | 18:48 |
| unicell | question: ansible do provide dryrun mode, right? | 18:48 |
| SamYaple | asalkeld: thank you! it looks like i can get away without any nova changes too! (at least at first) | 18:48 |
| unicell | in your case, operator should dryrun first before actual run deploy action | 18:48 |
| SamYaple | unicell: it does, but out playbooks arent build to full support that | 18:49 |
| SamYaple | i agree too, but changing the architecture a bit and we dont have to rely on the operator to do something first | 18:49 |
| SamYaple | (and we do need to make dryrun work fully) | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-mesos: Add linters job https://review.openstack.org/270989 | 18:50 |
| SamYaple | so unicell, if we do this a bit differently and have a "config" action just like deploy or upgrade or pull, then we can control these explict operations | 18:50 |
| unicell | so do you think making dryrun work fully can be parallel work item to do (besides bp of mine), or we need some other improvement to make the case more operator friendly? | 18:50 |
| unicell | I see | 18:50 |
| SamYaple | additionally, we need to check the running config against what we are copying rather than rely on ansible | 18:51 |
| unicell | ok, that can be an improvement in the middle ground | 18:51 |
| unicell | before we have full dry run support | 18:51 |
| SamYaple | i agree, im not blocking your work, just need to agree on direction (which is the point of getting a blueprint approved) | 18:51 |
| unicell | I thought merge_config can detect real conf change and report back through ansible `changed` field, not true? | 18:52 |
| SamYaple | yes, but thats not always accurate to what the service is actually running | 18:52 |
| unicell | can you elaborate? | 18:52 |
| SamYaple | and some services share configs so youll only end up seeing "changed" on one service | 18:53 |
| SamYaple | swift for example, if we restart when we have a different swift.conf well only restart one service | 18:53 |
| SamYaple | unicell: im going to have to go in ~5 minutes but ill be back on later fyi | 18:53 |
| unicell | SamYaple: sure, thanks for the inputs!! | 18:54 |
| unicell | I can take a look at the swift case | 18:54 |
| unicell | to understand better | 18:54 |
| SamYaple | thanks for talking about it. I know we can all come to an agreement. This is a feature we need | 18:55 |
| unicell | yup, thx | 18:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Noyes proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: [WIP] Add state info to commands https://review.openstack.org/271422 | 18:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Yaple proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Remove unused tox things https://review.openstack.org/271502 | 19:55 |
| sdake | SamYaple nice job on the ekko announcement | 19:56 |
| sdake | I'm surpised you didn' announce the core eview team | 19:56 |
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| SamYaple | me and paul worked on it in an etherpad | 19:57 |
| SamYaple | didnt want to make it to long | 19:57 |
| sdake | nice | 19:59 |
| sdake | SamYaple i wish yo uwell with ekko | 20:05 |
| sdake | you can begin your ptl journey :) | 20:05 |
| sdake | project seems pretty compelling should attract some devs | 20:06 |
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| SamYaple | i hope so | 20:17 |
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| sdake_ | SamYaple is this finished rather then not started? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/pre-pull-images | 20:40 |
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| sdake_ | samyaple is this blueprint good progerss or finished -> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/kolla-docker-module | 20:48 |
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| sdake_ | rhallisey is this done or still good proerss and should ve carrid to m3? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/custom-repos | 20:54 |
| sdake_ | SamYaple is this implemented and not needs code review -> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/docker-named-volumes | 20:57 |
| rhallisey | sdake_, that's done | 20:57 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey plase mark as such so you get credit pls | 20:58 |
| sdake_ | nihilifer is this implemented or still in nprogress? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/radosgw-container | 20:59 |
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| sdake_ | hardik's nick is what? | 21:07 |
| sdake_ | is this implemented - anyone know https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/enable-mistral-container | 21:08 |
| sdake_ | specially are the playbooks done | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Add some options to improve debug https://review.openstack.org/270941 | 21:10 |
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| sdake_ | SamYaple you have 3 blueprints here which may be in the ifnished state https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 21:24 |
| sdake_ | can you update them if they are please? | 21:24 |
| sdake_ | or i not, let me know so i can move them to mitaka-3 | 21:24 |
| sdake_ | i not/if not | 21:24 |
| sdake_ | nihilifer same story for you | 21:24 |
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| sdake_ | has anyone tried the mistal playbooks | 21:31 |
| sdake_ | it looks like mistal is implemented | 21:31 |
| sdake_ | anyone know for sure so i can mark that blueprint finished? | 21:31 |
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| sdake_ | ok dentist appointment | 21:48 |
| sdake_ | welcome to the torture chair | 21:49 |
| sdake_ | be back in 2 hours | 21:49 |
| sdake_ | enjoy :) | 21:49 |
| sdake_ | please update bueprints for mileston2 of mitaka folks | 21:49 |
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| unicell | do we have a working SDN solution with Kolla? | 22:07 |
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| sdake | SamYaple ping re the two blueprints you left in good progress state, those shoul go tm3 correct? | 23:49 |
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