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| isviridov | dukhlov charlesw hello here | 13:57 |
| dukhlov | hello, isviridov | 13:57 |
| dukhlov | how are you? | 13:57 |
| charlesw | Hi guys | 13:57 |
| isviridov | dukhlov I'm fine. Just cleaned the chain of my bike :) | 13:58 |
| isviridov | dukhlov gonna to test it after meeting | 13:58 |
| dukhlov | :) | 13:58 |
| isviridov | Looks like no additional items in agenda | 13:59 |
| isviridov | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/WeeklyMeetingAgenda#26_Mar.2C_2015.2C_14:00_UTC | 13:59 |
| isviridov | #link http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/ | 13:59 |
| isviridov | #fun | 14:00 |
| isviridov | But, please, take the NoSQL part easy :) | 14:00 |
| dukhlov | isviridov, I have replaced the tires and ready to ride | 14:00 |
| isviridov | dukhlov WOW that will be the day | 14:00 |
| ajayaa | Hi guys! | 14:01 |
| isviridov | Let us start gentelmen | 14:01 |
| isviridov | Hello ajayaa | 14:01 |
| isviridov | #startmeeting magnetodb | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 26 14:01:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is isviridov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'magnetodb' | 14:01 |
| ajayaa | Hi isviridov. | 14:01 |
| isviridov | Who is here today? | 14:01 |
| isviridov | o/ | 14:01 |
| ajayaa | o/ | 14:01 |
| charlesw | o/ | 14:01 |
| isviridov | Ok, today agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/WeeklyMeetingAgenda#26_Mar.2C_2015.2C_14:00_UTC | 14:02 |
| isviridov | And the first short topic | 14:02 |
| isviridov | #topic Go through action items isviridov | 14:02 |
| isviridov | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2015/magnetodb.2015-03-12-14.01.html | 14:02 |
| isviridov | There was only one, and I can report that meeting schedule has been updated | 14:03 |
| isviridov | Now it is every second week | 14:03 |
| dukhlov | o/ | 14:03 |
| ajayaa | I saw the logs of previous meeting. | 14:03 |
| ajayaa | fine with that btw. | 14:03 |
| isviridov | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#MagnetoDB_Team_meeting | 14:03 |
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| isviridov | Hello ominakov | 14:04 |
| isviridov | ajayaa great! | 14:04 |
| ominakov | hello guys | 14:04 |
| isviridov | No other action items | 14:04 |
| isviridov | Next topic | 14:04 |
| isviridov | #topic Round of status isviridov | 14:04 |
| isviridov | Who want to be first? | 14:04 |
| charlesw | I'll go | 14:05 |
| isviridov | ominakov welcome back | 14:05 |
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| charlesw | Since last meeting, we merged some patches: refactoring notification, adding health check body details, standalone health check metrics service. | 14:06 |
| charlesw | Dima helped a lot. Truely a team effort. | 14:07 |
| isviridov | Great to hear! | 14:08 |
| isviridov | I can share my status | 14:08 |
| isviridov | Actually I didn't spend a lot of time to project last weeks. | 14:09 |
| isviridov | But I've ordered launchpad and released kilo-3 milestone | 14:09 |
| isviridov | Also send short anonce in ML | 14:09 |
| isviridov | #link https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/kilo/kilo-3 | 14:09 |
| isviridov | Over | 14:09 |
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| isviridov | dukhlov ajayaa ominakov any updates from your side? | 14:10 |
| dukhlov | isviridov, any plans about openstack incubation, | 14:11 |
| dukhlov | ? | 14:11 |
| charlesw | Maybe you can share the vision going forward. | 14:11 |
| isviridov | dukhlov charlesw sure | 14:11 |
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| isviridov | The latest update from TC I know was an annoncement that new big tent reform is applyed and now any project can apply for status as part of openstack | 14:13 |
| isviridov | #link http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/02/tc-update-project-reform-progress/ | 14:14 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, We are working on a mdb backend for Openstack services. We have ported Keystone to use MagnetoDB as the datastore. | 14:15 |
| isviridov | So, now we have a clear rules how to start. However I have not found any recomened way how to do it. | 14:16 |
| ajayaa | We are trying to write a scalable and fault tolerant db layer for Openstack services. | 14:16 |
| charlesw | ajayaa, sounds very cool, any details, links? | 14:17 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, Am I interrupting you? | 14:17 |
| ajayaa | http://ajayaa.github.io/distributed-db.html | 14:17 |
| isviridov | Also personally it is not my first priority and I can't spend 100% time on it, so any help or ever initiative to drive this process is very appresiated | 14:17 |
| ajayaa | here is a demo of Keystone running with mdb as backend. | 14:17 |
| isviridov | ajayaa it is ok. N.p. | 14:17 |
| isviridov | The showrt answer, I | 14:18 |
| isviridov | 'll try to start preparation the documents/wiki pages next week according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewProjectTeams | 14:18 |
| ajayaa | Here is a spec for the same. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148521/ | 14:18 |
| isviridov | If anyone would like to joing very welcome | 14:19 |
| isviridov | charlesw that is about incubation | 14:19 |
| * isviridov checking links from ajayaa | 14:19 | |
| ajayaa | The keystone spec will get accepted once Keystone people start reviewing specs for L. | 14:21 |
| isviridov | ajayaa looks really cool, have you just removed keystone integration? | 14:21 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, yes. needed to. | 14:21 |
| ajayaa | otherwise we would be stuck in a loop. :) | 14:22 |
| isviridov | Unexpected usage actually | 14:23 |
| ajayaa | actually, we have plans to move all of OS components to mdb in the future. | 14:23 |
| isviridov | #What are your plans, about it? | 14:23 |
| isviridov | I see | 14:23 |
| ajayaa | The real problem is OS apis were written initially assuming relational db as a backend. | 14:24 |
| ajayaa | But we are trying our best to support all the apis. | 14:24 |
| ajayaa | We have started to move glance as well. | 14:24 |
| ajayaa | Nova is the real challenge. | 14:24 |
| isviridov | ajayaa what is feedback? | 14:25 |
| ajayaa | Also I wanted to let you people know that dynamodb api is a bit limited. | 14:25 |
| isviridov | I mena from glance and other you have tried already | 14:25 |
| ajayaa | We are designing schema for glance now. But we have a working Keystone as I showed in the demo. | 14:26 |
| dukhlov | ajayaa, looks like mdb is not really good backend for glance, it needs to store huge images | 14:26 |
| * isviridov for protocol #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148521/2 | 14:26 | |
| ajayaa | dukhlov, it does not store images on its own. | 14:27 |
| dukhlov | only metadata? | 14:27 |
| ajayaa | dukhlov, yes. | 14:27 |
| dukhlov | ah, ok | 14:27 |
| ajayaa | The backend is swift or any object store. | 14:27 |
| ajayaa | The fact that mdb allows at maximum two columns per key is quite limiting btw. | 14:29 |
| ajayaa | especially when you are denormalizing data and storing it into a single table. | 14:29 |
| dukhlov | we can change it now I guess | 14:30 |
| ajayaa | But C* allows that. Can we by any chance allow more than two columns per key? | 14:30 |
| ajayaa | I would propose a spec for that if everyone is in favour of this? | 14:31 |
| dukhlov | now yes, after index LSI redesign I think we can extend our functionality | 14:31 |
| isviridov | ajayaa I think we can, if we don't see performance impact | 14:31 |
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| ajayaa | isviridov, dukhlov, C* already allows that. | 14:32 |
| dukhlov | and still support DDB API | 14:32 |
| ajayaa | We will just be a superset of ddb api. | 14:32 |
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| dukhlov | ok, you can start to write spec | 14:33 |
| ajayaa | dukhlov, cool. | 14:34 |
| dukhlov | I can't guarantee now that we don't have anty problem there | 14:34 |
| ajayaa | anty? | 14:34 |
| dukhlov | but I think we will figure out this during reviewing spec | 14:34 |
| dukhlov | any | 14:34 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa have you shared your results with community? | 14:35 |
| ajayaa | I will write a spec. | 14:35 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, not yet. not the results. Just the spec with Keystone community. | 14:35 |
| isviridov | I think it is important, to spread the info. NoSQL and Java always causes huge discussions | 14:36 |
| isviridov | Looks like no other status. Next topic? | 14:39 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, I am doing that. | 14:40 |
| ajayaa | I am also attending the glance meeting now. | 14:40 |
| ajayaa | time clash. | 14:40 |
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| isviridov | #topic Open discussion isviridov | 14:42 |
| isviridov | The last topic | 14:42 |
| isviridov | dukhlov charlesw do you think we a done for today? | 14:44 |
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| isviridov | Thank you guys for attending today meeting | 14:46 |
| isviridov | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 26 14:47:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2015/magnetodb.2015-03-26-14.01.html | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2015/magnetodb.2015-03-26-14.01.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2015/magnetodb.2015-03-26-14.01.log.html | 14:47 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa some ideas abotu reasoning.There is a set of problems because of openstack cluster connectivity. Each OS component relies on always available MySQL, but in reality it is not always avaialble. So, I knwo about custom wrappers, what makes tries to save data in mysql. | 14:54 |
| isviridov | ajayaa so cloud in distributed system and periodical faults are natural, so NoSQL storage as eventually consistent fits the use case | 14:55 |
| isviridov | From other hand it should be handled on client side with additional logic. However we see zeromq drived develoment, what brings the same problems | 14:56 |
| isviridov | Sory for typos | 14:57 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, I see. | 14:57 |
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| ajayaa | I didn't understand the third point. The one with "client side" in it. | 14:58 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, That's exactly we are trying to solve. We are trying to move Openstack to an always available datastore. | 14:58 |
| isviridov | ajayaa I mean, you have to expect that yor data is not available from other client reading it immidiatelly. Alos you can receive outdated info. And it should be handled | 14:59 |
| ajayaa | The applications, yes! | 15:00 |
| ajayaa | They should be fine with eventual consistency. | 15:00 |
| ajayaa | +1 for that. | 15:00 |
| ajayaa | As it stands today, not all OS applications are fine with that. It's a long battle, I suppose. | 15:01 |
| ajayaa | ;) | 15:01 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa some promotion of your demo https://twitter.com/zaletniy/status/581102884110143488 | 15:02 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, Thanks! My twitter handle is aj_agr btw. :) | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Vivek Dhayaal proposed stackforge/magnetodb: unstack.sh should not clean data in magnetodb https://review.openstack.org/168031 | 15:16 |
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