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| sergmelikyan | Guys I found one nasty bug :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1284031 | 10:03 |
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| sergmelikyan | Can someone confirm this issue? | 10:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Simplify documentation. https://review.openstack.org/71574 | 11:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: Remove 'openstack-' prefix in service name https://review.openstack.org/72940 | 11:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-metadataclient: Fixed work in envs patched by eventlet https://review.openstack.org/75859 | 12:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-metadataclient: Fixed work in envs patched by eventlet https://review.openstack.org/75859 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Teselkin proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fix path prefix in 'check if files exist' part https://review.openstack.org/75863 | 13:18 |
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| sergmelikyan | Please take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/75859 | 13:38 |
| sergmelikyan | What settings we should to expose in our sample file to configure driver for oslo.messaging? All of them, or present only RabbitMQ settings? | 13:38 |
| sergmelikyan | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/blob/master/oslo/messaging/_drivers/impl_rabbit.py#L39 | 13:38 |
| sergmelikyan | For example Heat uses script to generate config sample, and that sample contains all settings from all modules that are available in Heat | 13:38 |
| sergmelikyan | Timur Sufiev | 13:38 |
| ativelkov | I would start with the easiest choise | 13:42 |
| ativelkov | to have just rabbit first | 13:42 |
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| sergmelikyan | ativelkov, since we now use oslo.messaging, RabbitMq is not a only option for user. But from other POV supplying RabbitMQ options in a sample looks reasonable for now. Later we can add sample auto-generation and update documentation | 13:45 |
| tsufiev__ | sergmelikyan: ? | 13:51 |
| sergmelikyan | tsufiev__, sorry, I had highlighted your name unintentionally | 13:52 |
| tsufiev__ | sergmelikyan: np | 13:52 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-metadataclient: Fixed work in envs patched by eventlet https://review.openstack.org/75859 | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Migration to oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/75100 | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Migration to oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/75100 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Use oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/75100 | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Use oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/75100 | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to stackforge/murano-conductor: Use oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/75892 | 15:00 |
| sergmelikyan | I had published migration change to oslo.messaging: | 15:01 |
| sergmelikyan | https://review.openstack.org/75892 - Conductor | 15:01 |
| sergmelikyan | https://review.openstack.org/75100 - API | 15:02 |
| sergmelikyan | Those changes are almost raw transition to oslo.messaging. Not much changes are made to way how our components are communicate with each other. We can improve out communication patterns or way of handling them within oslo.messaging scope later. | 15:03 |
| sergmelikyan | Please, review them :) | 15:03 |
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| sjmc7 | hi guys, apologies if this is a stupid question. i'm looking at a use case for a catalog of services (or subscriptions, for instance) that don't require compute resources or anything from heat but do need a catalog and billing integration | 16:24 |
| sjmc7 | is that a use case for murano, or are you committed to keeping it concentrated on provisioning resources? | 16:24 |
| sjmc7 | or is this maybe a better question for the mailing list? | 16:25 |
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| gokrokve | Hi sjmc7! | 17:53 |
| sjmc7 | hi gokrokve! | 17:54 |
| gokrokve | There is a billing and usage metering in App Catalog. | 17:54 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 17:54 |
| gokrokve | Rgith now it actually deploys application and then start metric collection. | 17:54 |
| sjmc7 | my question was - does it make sense to have things in the catalog that do not involve openstack resources (nova, for instance) | 17:54 |
| gokrokve | As deployment is fully covered by DSL inside app package you can turn it off. | 17:55 |
| gokrokve | Yes you can do this. | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | ok. is it a use case you would encourage, as opposed to it just being possible? | 17:55 |
| sjmc7 | so, for instance, it might require some UI changes (because 'environment' makes no sense in the context of a subscription, for instance) | 17:56 |
| gokrokve | Murano is not prescriptive how you actually do the deployment. It provides all required bits and peacs for working with Heat but it is up to application how to use it. | 17:56 |
| gokrokve | What is subscription? | 17:56 |
| sjmc7 | just an example of something that might not require an actual deployment | 17:56 |
| gokrokve | Yes. We did not cover this. | 17:56 |
| sjmc7 | yeah.. so i'm trying to figure out if it makes sense to consider murano for this use case or not | 17:57 |
| gokrokve | If you see that thre is a use case for that it will be great if you submit a blue print on launchpad page with detailed description what is required. | 17:57 |
| sjmc7 | ok. we might well do the work for it - i want to get a feeling if it's something you would potentially welcome first | 17:57 |
| gokrokve | If this feature fits to Murano architecture and mission we can eventually support it. | 17:57 |
| sjmc7 | ok, great. i'll put something concrete together | 17:58 |
| gokrokve | Great!. Thank you for sharing your ideas. | 17:58 |
| sjmc7 | and just to check - although murano was originally aimed at Windows deployments, you've decided to expand that to be more general? | 17:59 |
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| sjmc7 | gokrokve, are you still there? | 22:23 |
| gokrokve | sjmc7: Yes. | 22:23 |
| sjmc7 | had one more question... i know you guys recently filed for incubation with openstack | 22:23 |
| sjmc7 | are you intending murano to remain its own project, or that it become part of glance and/or heat? | 22:24 |
| gokrokve | Yes we recently applied for incubation. There is a questions about governance model. Murano can be a project in one of the existing Program like Images or Orchestration. | 22:25 |
| sjmc7 | ok. to me it doesn't seem to fit in either of them, it's more of a consumer | 22:26 |
| gokrokve | We actually asked TC to help us to find a proper way to do this. As a Murano team we don't have any specific preferences while Glance\Catalog program look better fit then orchestration. | 22:26 |
| sjmc7 | Sure, ok. Thanks for answering my questions. I'm hoping for us to get involved, i need to sell it to my management :) | 22:27 |
| gokrokve | This is a hard question. Murano uses Heat. That is true. But Heat is a project in Orchestration program. Potentially there can be aditional project under Orchestration mission which covers some use cases which are not covered in Heat. | 22:27 |
| gokrokve | It is possible to have multiple project in one program. | 22:27 |
| sjmc7 | Ok - so Orchestration could include the catalog part, you mean | 22:27 |
| sjmc7 | You guys have also made a call on the software configuration part that heat has side-stepped so far | 22:28 |
| gokrokve | I think that Catalog program should be a program for Murano App Catalog. | 22:28 |
| gokrokve | We rely on Heat to do actual deployment. WE have some part of deployment steps to cover missed part in Heat. As soon as they appear in Heat we will use them. | 22:29 |
| sjmc7 | My understanding is the Heat team don't want to get involved with software configuration | 22:29 |
| sjmc7 | They'd rather leave it up to users to install chef/salt/etc (or murano-agent) | 22:29 |
| gokrokve | They actually want and HOT Software configuration is intended to cover this area. | 22:30 |
| sjmc7 | Oh, they are going to do that now? I need to pay closer attention | 22:30 |
| gokrokve | They have some patches on the review. | 22:30 |
| gokrokve | [1] | 22:31 |
| gokrokve | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/hot-software-config-rest,n,z | 22:31 |
| gokrokve | [2] | 22:31 |
| gokrokve | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/hot-software-config,n,z | 22:31 |
| gokrokve | Still it will require some work to define software deployent steps and chef and puppet will be supported by HOT Software. | 22:32 |
| sjmc7 | Ok, that's good news. Are you guys also working on heat as part of the work on murano? | 22:33 |
| gokrokve | Yes, we have couple engineers who commit to the Heat. We don't contribute much to HOT Software components, though. | 22:34 |
| sjmc7 | Ok. Thanks again for answering my questions. I'll stop bothering you for now :) | 22:35 |
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