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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Fix multiple add-select controls https://review.openstack.org/95512 | 06:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Partly refactor unittets https://review.openstack.org/95453 | 07:33 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano: Adds an explanation of the engine workflow https://review.openstack.org/92846 | 07:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Update dynamic ui fields docs, fix some indents https://review.openstack.org/94886 | 08:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Refactor Packages and AppCatalog pagination https://review.openstack.org/93939 | 08:32 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Preliminary support for HOT packages https://review.openstack.org/93429 | 08:39 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano: Add rmq message logging https://review.openstack.org/94790 | 08:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Ruslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano https://review.openstack.org/95514 | 09:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Igor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Code update https://review.openstack.org/95703 | 09:29 |
openstackgerrit | Igor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Code update https://review.openstack.org/95704 | 09:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job https://review.openstack.org/95708 | 09:57 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Partly refactor unittets https://review.openstack.org/95453 | 10:05 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Fix issue with python 3.3 gate job https://review.openstack.org/95453 | 10:17 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Fix issue with python 3.3 gate job https://review.openstack.org/95453 | 10:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job https://review.openstack.org/95708 | 10:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Ruslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano https://review.openstack.org/95514 | 11:02 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Code update https://review.openstack.org/95703 | 11:14 |
openstackgerrit | Ruslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano https://review.openstack.org/95514 | 11:15 |
openstackgerrit | Igor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Add X fonts path switch https://review.openstack.org/95725 | 11:15 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano: Code update https://review.openstack.org/95704 | 11:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Igor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Removed commented lines https://review.openstack.org/95728 | 11:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fix Apache setup in deploy_component_new.sh script https://review.openstack.org/95511 | 12:06 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano https://review.openstack.org/95514 | 12:15 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Update dynamic ui fields docs, fix some indents https://review.openstack.org/94886 | 12:17 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Refactor api.catalog.search() method to provide 'next_marker' value https://review.openstack.org/93900 | 12:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Add initial tests for application deployments https://review.openstack.org/94594 | 12:33 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Add X fonts path switch https://review.openstack.org/95725 | 12:34 |
openstackgerrit | Ekaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Update horizon config for developer environment https://review.openstack.org/95102 | 12:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Teselkin proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Import networking library with devstack https://review.openstack.org/95750 | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano: Add initial tests for application deployments https://review.openstack.org/94594 | 12:54 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fix Apache setup in deploy_component_new.sh script https://review.openstack.org/95511 | 12:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Ruslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Fix incorrect import after rename https://review.openstack.org/95758 | 13:11 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano: Fix incorrect import after rename https://review.openstack.org/95758 | 13:43 |
openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Move UI tests from murano-tests repo to murano-dashboard repo https://review.openstack.org/95771 | 13:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job https://review.openstack.org/95708 | 13:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Change repo with UI tests https://review.openstack.org/95780 | 14:22 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job https://review.openstack.org/95708 | 14:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Move UI tests from murano-tests repo to murano-dashboard repo https://review.openstack.org/95771 | 15:23 |
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ruhe | time for murano weekly meeting at #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:02 |
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lecalcot | Is this an appropriate forum to inquire about Murano's billing/pricing/financial capabilities? | 18:30 |
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stan_lagun | lecalcot, sure | 18:43 |
stan_lagun | Murano collects some statistics. But no direct pricing support | 18:44 |
stan_lagun | I think this need to be offload to some external app. Murano should not deal with money | 18:44 |
stan_lagun | Only provide runtime information that can be used for that purpose | 18:45 |
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lecalcot | Hey Stan, that makes sense. I think we need to define a few financial management terms. | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Billing - invoicing and payment transacting. | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Metering - financial management based on measured utilization | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Billing Integration - real-time financial events that can be consumed by a billing system within an extension point | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Run Rates - a mechanism for users to see the recurring cost of the items that they have purchased - a mechanism for administrators to see the recurring cost of the items that their tenants have purchased | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Showback - a mechanism to allow users to see the calculated cost of their purchase during the ordering process | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Pricing - a method to set prices on common objects | 19:02 |
lecalcot | Is it the intention for Murano to deliver any of these? | 19:04 |
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stan_lagun | Billing integration | 19:08 |
lecalcot | Would this be via Ceilometer? | 19:09 |
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stan_lagun | I'm not sure. We are going to be able to offload some statistics to Ceilometer. Probably it would be possible to invoke external APIs (including those of billing systems) from within Murano workflows | 19:10 |
stan_lagun | So applications can collect any information they want and then send it to Ceilometer or billing system on anywhere it wants | 19:11 |
stan_lagun | Maybe we will introduce some universal API for billing systems to hook on | 19:12 |
lecalcot | When would billing integration come forth? Does this include the ability for application designers (those using Murano's yaml) to add a price (one-time or recurring) to the individual applications? Would this include support for multiple currencies or support for price discounts per tenant? | 19:13 |
stan_lagun | It is too early to tell as this future was not designed. BUT MuranoPL code (yamls) could ask some external REST service for price information and use it somehow | 19:15 |
stan_lagun | It can also give some info back | 19:15 |
stan_lagun | Maybe there will be some sort of interface for that so that Murano could calculate total cost of environment or something like that | 19:16 |
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stan_lagun | We haven't really discussed it yet. So I'm just guessing. | 19:17 |
stan_lagun | If you have good use cases it would be great to register blueprint for that | 19:17 |
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lecalcot | Would this be most appropriate as a Murano blueprint or is there another, separate financial management component being incubated to handle the aforementioned categories of financial capabilities? | 19:27 |
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stan_lagun | I'm not aware on any OpenStack incubated financial management application. I'm not sure OpenStack is appropriate place for such systems. At list at this point. But there are established billing applications outside OpenStack. Probably Murano needs to be able to talk to them. If you have your vision regarding how Murano can integrate with billing systems or what Murano can do in this field you should probably submit blueprint to Murano | 19:33 |
stan_lagun | One of the problems here is that AFAIK Murano developers have no experience with financial systems. We feel like there is a need to bridge the gap with billing systems and pricing but don't know where to start :) | 19:36 |
stan_lagun | So any help is appreciated | 19:36 |
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lecalcot | Stan, I hear you. :) | 20:13 |
lecalcot | This considerations can be a gateway to another world. | 20:14 |
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stan_lagun | :) | 20:16 |
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lecalcot | Is Murano .5 the version that's available in Icehouse? | 22:48 |
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