Tuesday, 2021-05-11

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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed opendev/system-config master: Link to www.openstack.org instead of openstack.org  https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/79053300:42
fungiclarkb: will 789622 need updating to match ^ ?00:47
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timburkeor we fix the openstack.org cert -- i'm happy to abandon ;-)01:13
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fungitimburke: i'll bring it to the attention of the foundation webdevs01:35
fungithanks for flagging. for some reason https://openstack.org/ seems to be serving a cert which expired saturday01:36
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add fedora-containerfile element  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/79036505:18
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: bootloader: disable BLS for Fedora  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/79054905:18
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: bootloader: disable BLS for Fedora  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/79054906:49
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add fedora-containerfile element  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/79036506:49
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openstackgerritLajos Katona proposed openstack/project-config master: Rename x/tap-as-a-service to openstack/tap-as-a-service  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/79009308:43
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KvisleHi! Quick question - looking at https://docs.opendev.org/opendev/system-config/latest/contribute-cloud.html, "Since there’s a bit of setup and maintenance involved in adding a new provider, a minimum of 100 instances would be helpful." ... is this correct, or is smaller amounts than this of interest? (The cloud mostly provides instances with Intel Gold 6126/6226/6226R CPUs in a no-overcommit setup, with09:11
Kvislelocal ssds and a lot more memory than requried) ... but 100 instances would mean booking 12 physical servers -- which exceeds the amount we have to spare.09:11
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ianwKvisle: we can certainly be more flexible09:41
ianwnote at any time you can see the current providers, and their configuration @ https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/nodepool09:42
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KvisleWould a contribution be of value, or do you feel that you have more capacity than you need?09:57
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Kvisle(It's not obvious for me from looking in git + zuul)09:58
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ianwKvisle: you can see our node usage @ https://grafana.opendev.org/d/KRmop6EMz/nodepool?orgId=110:24
ianwand you can see Zuul queues @ https://grafana.opendev.org/d/5Imot6EMk/zuul-status?orgId=110:25
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ianwi think we would definitely be interested in talking more.  clarkb is probably the best person, and will be around in US time10:30
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Kvisleianw: interesting - I'll see if I can get some contact tonight, then12:45
Kvisleianw: our cloud is in the nordics, so some latency are to be expected - but that should probably not be a big deal?12:45
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fricklerKvisle: we also use resources from ovh in france, so that should be fine. we set up one mirror host within each cloud, too, so that most of the traffic should be local12:53
fricklernot sure how the ratio would be, though, or how our traffic requirements in general look like12:54
fricklerKvisle: but I agree with ianw, 100 instances for sure isn't a hard limit. and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't claim to have too much capacity available12:56
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parallaxHi - my company's considering the same - we're willing to contribute some of the capacity to OpenDev  - struggling with the IPV6 access currently though;  once the setup's done, around 512 cores could be provided13:24
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clarkbfungi: yes if we want to aldn that then would need to update. Your comments indicate we don't need to land 790533 anymore though?14:50
clarkbparallax: Kvisle  that document should probably be updated. 100 was sort of a round number to give people a sense for what we are looking for but since then it has become easier to set up a new cloud and we're also finding that things like IP addresses are our major limitation and that value may not be appropriate anymore14:52
clarkbI'm definitely willing to have a conversation with both of you to answer any questions and clarify things14:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/project-config master: Retire puppet-glare - Step 1: End project Gating  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/79005614:56
clarkbThe only issue is today (and possibly tomorrow) are not great for me. I've got errands away from the computer. If you see these messages feel free to start mail threads at service-discuss@lists.opendev.org and we can take it from there14:57
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parallaxclarkb: Sure - that works. Thanks15:09
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clarkbianw: responded to your comment on the zuul02 stack. Can you take a look and see if you think that change is worthwhile? if so I can make those updates15:34
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed opendev/system-config master: Ansible mailman configs  https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/78962215:40
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed opendev/system-config master: Add infra-prod-service-lists job  https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/79052415:40
clarkbianw: ^ also I like your jinja much more. Thanks!15:40
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mnasiadkaIs there a nice way to specify kernel cmdline args for a nodepool instance other than specifying that in the image configuration in project-config?17:11
clarkbmnasiadka: you may need to describe the problem a bit more. but generally the kernel cmdline is specified in our image builds. Jobs can reboot if necessary as well (which allows you to change stuff like that potentially)17:13
mnasiadkaclarkb: that’s my plan (reboot) - Debian Bullseye disables cgroup v2 by default and Kolla uses libvirt in a container - so it can’t rely on systemd to manage cgroups v217:14
fungiyeah, to restate, if specific jobs need a particular kernel option set at boot, they'll need to reboot in the job to do that17:14
mnasiadkaOk then, thanks for confirmation :)17:15
fungias an example, mnasiadka: you might want to take a look at the work ade is doing for fips: https://review.opendev.org/78877817:16
clarkbI guess the issue is that you cannot have v1 and v2 enabled at the same time. In that case we probably don't want to change the bullseye defaults17:24
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fungiright, but also more generally this is working as designed, kolla has a clear reminder that using v2 on bullseye won't work without adjusting the kernel config, so this is presenting a fairly good example of what a user's bullseye install would look like too17:36
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corvusclarkb: is 790798 because you're bootstrapping zuul02 without a statsd config?18:02
clarkbcorvus: no, it is due to someone having problems on the zuul discuss list18:02
clarkbcorvus: http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-discuss/2021-May/001584.html18:02
corvusah thx18:03
clarkbit shouldn't matter for zuul02 since we will only start it after zuul01 has stopped18:03
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ianwclarkb: zuul02 change lgtm as is21:48
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