| corvus | bringing up scheduler 01 | 00:24 |
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| corvus | that seems fine. i'll restart 02 now | 00:34 |
| tkajinam | corvus, fungi thank you ! | 00:56 |
| fungi | thanks again corvus! | 01:12 |
| *** dtantsur_ is now known as dtantsur | 01:32 | |
| SvenKieske | Clark[m]: while relying solely on C.UTF-8 is certainly not good, I can assure you that many software _will_ brake if it isn't available at all. (re: locale issues on EL builds). I'm really baffled this is/was an issue on centos7 and would expect way more stuff to be broken then. | 08:12 |
| SvenKieske | the major reason stuff will break is, that many stuff defaults to C.UTF-8 if you unset/don't set a locale manually. I'm surprised you can even install a system without c.utf8 locale. | 08:14 |
| SvenKieske | mhm googling around seems to suggest there are a good deal of distros without c.utf8, interesting. but arch is broken for everything requiring glibc anyway I guess (ok that's slightly hyperbole). | 08:17 |
| *** ykarel_ is now known as ykarel | 09:01 | |
| fungi | SvenKieske: c.utf8 is a relatively recent addition, debian had it custom patched into glibc for a while before it got accepted upstream and started to appear in other distros. i expect the glibc in centos 7 is simply too old to have it | 11:49 |
| *** ykarel_ is now known as ykarel | 12:26 | |
| SvenKieske | right, I mixed that up with "c" without the UTF-8 :D | 12:47 |
| *** darmach68 is now known as darmach6 | 13:48 | |
| *** ykarel_ is now known as ykarel | 14:02 | |
| clarkb | ya I've pointed to the line of code that I think needs to chagne but I don't understand rhel distros well enough to know if that is sufficient. More than happy for someone else to poke at it | 14:48 |
| clarkb | and yes C is present because ti is widely used. C.utf8 is relatievly new which is why I believe it isn't already installed | 14:48 |
| clarkb | we don't explicitly set the locale when running ansible and it doesn't seem to be an issue. That said I could see it being a problem for specific commands whose output you are parsing which is why I suggested you set it on a command by command basis instead | 14:49 |
| clarkb | then you'd get better error messages around what is breaking too I Hope (since the scope is smaller than ansible failed to start) | 14:49 |
| clarkb | digging around internet seems toconfigure centos 7 lacked a new enough glibc for c.utf8 but centos 8 stream and centos 9 stream were new enough. DIB dropped centos 7 support recently so I think adding c.utf8 to that list by default should be safe | 15:26 |
| clarkb | and apparently that rpm config macro instructs packages on install to install the listed locales. By default you install all of them which I think we were trying to avoid to keep things minimalish | 15:27 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 15:35 |
| opendevreview | Iury Gregory Melo Ferreira proposed openstack/project-config master: Update ironic ACL for editHashtags https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/930930 | 15:49 |
| fungi | ^ that mirrors what we've been talking about doing system-wide | 15:50 |
| clarkb | approved | 15:54 |
| opendevreview | Clark Boylan proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Setup C.UTF-8 as a RPM install lang in yum-minimal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/930932 | 16:07 |
| clarkb | that isn't locally tested or anything but I figured I should push something as a starting point based on my quick investigation results above | 16:07 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/project-config master: Update ironic ACL for editHashtags https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/930930 | 16:08 |
| *** dhill is now known as Guest5018 | 16:23 | |
| clarkb | Just rebooted for my monday morning kernel update and having weird usb issues. I hope it isn't a hardware issue (basically one of my hubs dropped off and another usb device flapped...) | 16:27 |
| clarkb | seems to be working now after unplugging and plugging stuff in and applying a bit of patience | 16:27 |
| clarkb | at first I was worried my mouse had died (its like 16 years old) but now I'm worried I have a worse problem (bad usb hardware) | 16:29 |
| clarkb | fungi: I'm starting to write some notes for the meeting agenda and the openstack rlease is item #1. Anything need review or help for that? | 16:33 |
| fungi | clarkb: we need to un-wip and approve 930709 some time tomorrow. i have set myself a reminder to do it right after the opendev meeting | 16:34 |
| fungi | other than that, not really aside from trying to make sure zuul is in good shape and we don't destabilize or overload it on wednesday | 16:35 |
| clarkb | sounds good and I'ev already reviewed that change yay | 16:36 |
| fungi | also we have a tendency to uncover performance-related edge cases in systems (gerrit and zuul in particular) with the scale of the openstack release process, so keeping a bit of available bandwidth for rapid troubleshooting and a closer eye on things early wednesday could help | 16:37 |
| fungi | release activity is planned to occur between 10:00 and 15:00 utc on wednesday | 16:38 |
| fungi | i plan to be around for that entire time and will try to keep myself free to focus solely on it | 16:39 |
| clarkb | I probably won't be around at 1000 UTC but I can proably get an earlier than usual start | 16:55 |
| fungi | 10z seems like painfully early in your locale | 16:56 |
| fungi | it's a stretch for me, 3 timezones east of you | 16:56 |
| fungi | but the last couple hours of the release window are the more exciting anyway | 16:58 |
| clarkb | I've gotten up earlier to go fishing, but ya I prefer to avoid doing so | 17:03 |
| fungi | this is nowhere near as fun as fishing, and you don't get to eat the result | 17:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: I know there have been many distractions but I'm wondering if you have had a chance to look at my mm3 upgrade change review comments | 17:39 |
| fungi | i think i did, and then got distracted and forgot what i needed to do, i'll look again thanks! | 17:40 |
| fungi | oh, also openstack release-related, i set myself a reminder to un-wip and approve https://review.opendev.org/927031 next monday | 17:43 |
| fungi | it doesn't have any reviews yet | 17:43 |
| fungi | (signing key rotation) | 17:43 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 17:46 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Only update qemu-static container settings on x86_64 https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930939 | 17:46 |
| fungi | ah, yeah wrt the mm3 upgrades i remember now, several of those were questions i wanted to dig into in the upstream repos and get definitive answers for | 17:51 |
| fungi | i'm popping out for a quick lunch but will try to go deeper on those items when i get back in an hour | 17:52 |
| clarkb | no rush just wanted to make sure there weren't any hold ups on my end | 17:53 |
| fungi | yeah you made a number of excellent points, and there's no urgency to upgrade so i do want to make sure it's sensible | 19:03 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 19:12 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 19:50 |
| *** dhill is now known as Guest5041 | 20:54 | |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Reduce LVM extent usage https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/930950 | 20:56 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 21:31 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 21:39 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 22:05 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 22:12 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: WIP: Append other builds from nodeset https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 22:33 |
| opendevreview | Mohammed Naser proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: Add other nodes to buildx builder https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/930927 | 22:58 |
| clarkb | I've done my edits to the meeting agenda and will get them sent out soonish. Let me know if anything needs updating/changing | 23:16 |
| clarkb | and sent | 23:44 |
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