Friday, 2026-03-06

@gthiemonge:matrix.orgit seems that a new release of tox is impacting all the jobs07:05
@permesilo:matrix.orgHi, I'm getting an 'Email already in use' error when logging in with Ubuntu One. I previously deleted my account and recreated it. Can someone help me with the account conflict?09:02
email: sehun.jeong@samsung.com
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913609:54
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913609:54
@zigo-debian:matrix.orgHi there! We don't have a nodeset: debian-trixie do we?!?09:54
@zigo-debian:matrix.orgWhat's the way to create it?09:55
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgzigo-debian: the new nodesets have a memory capacity suffix, see https://opendev.org/opendev/zuul-providers/src/branch/master/zuul.d/nodesets.yaml10:14
@zigo-debian:matrix.orgOh, thanks !10:14
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgOr just define a project level nodeset like in devstack - see https://opendev.org/openstack/devstack/src/commit/961ef8a5a2d9303347d24a10769d339c5841a059/.zuul.yaml#L7110:16
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Eduardo Alberti proposed on behalf of Hediberto Cavalcante da Silva: [openstack/project-config] 970439: Add LVM CSI App to StarlingX https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/97043911:03
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Stephen Finucane proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979139: tox-siblings: Use tox config command https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913911:48
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Eduardo Alberti proposed on behalf of Hediberto Cavalcante da Silva: [openstack/project-config] 970439: Add LVM CSI App to StarlingX https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/97043912:11
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913615:55
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913615:56
@clarkb:matrix.orgI don't think that Gerrit allows normal users to delete accounts (and even admin "deletions" are not a proper delete). Can you explain what you mean by deleting your account and recreating it?16:02
I suspect that what has happened is you have an existing account with that email address in Gerrit and are now trying to login with a different Ubuntu One OpenID which has the same email address. Gerrit will try to create a new account since the openid is different then fail because a different gerrit account is already associated with that email address.
Usually the two options we have are for you to log in with the old openid if possible and continue as before. Or we have to disable your old Gerrit account and remove the associated email address from it allowing a new account to be created with that email address. It would be good if you can clarify what you mean by deleting the account and whether or not you can login using the old openid
@fungicide:matrix.orgyeah, i read that as "deleted my launchpad (ubuntuone sso really) account and created a new one" which would indeed lead to the described problem16:08
@harbott.osism.tech:regio.chatDmitriy Rabotyagov: `Version comparison failed: '<' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'int'` I'm not sure what the right fix is. `s/'4'/4/` probably?16:13
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913616:14
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgJens Harbott: I am kinda confused there16:16
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgAs in "sandbox" it "just works"16:16
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgbut also on ansible-core 2.19...16:16
@fungicide:matrix.orgi wonder if they changed integer detection in later versions16:17
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgat least in format of16:17
```
- hosts: localhost
vars:
tox_executable: ~/.virtualenvs/python3.10/bin/tox
tasks:
- name: Detect tox version
command: "{{ tox_executable }} --version"
register: _tox_version
- debug:
msg: "{{ (_tox_version.stdout | split(' ') | first is version('4', '<')) }}"
```
@fungicide:matrix.orgi'm popping out for a quick lunch, back shortly16:17
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgyeah, potentially. And it seems it converts `'4'` to int16:17
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgbut also I have a feeling it might be vice versa...16:20
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913616:21
@clarkb:matrix.orgI remain convinced that pickign a time to rip the bandaid off and convert everything to nox would be less pain and effort in the long run16:22
@clarkb:matrix.orgThe problem is we're only ever looking at the tox problems when we need to fix them now so we do this instead of a global replacement16:22
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgIt's been 4 years now since 4.0 release, and we never fixed since then16:22
@clarkb:matrix.orgwe have had multiple different issues since 4 broke the world16:23
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgSo it's not we're having new problems, we're failing to catch up with upgrade16:23
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgso how another upgrade makes it better...16:23
@clarkb:matrix.orgtox writes its own package installation tooling and we've had mismatches in behavior between build/pip and tox16:23
@clarkb:matrix.orgI think ^ is the major issue imo. Since you get different behavior with standard tools and with tox16:24
@clarkb:matrix.orgbut the semi regular break things for no good reason is also problematic16:24
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgwell, I can't really blame for breaking behavior which has been deprecated years ago16:25
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgabout installation tooling - I can agree there16:25
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgbut it's a completely different topic to discuss16:25
@clarkb:matrix.orgwhy not? there is no real difference between --showconfig and config and it is trivial to manage both. Also dropping it in a .1 release is a problemt oo16:26
@clarkb:matrix.orgfwiw I have similar complaints with setuptools. For whatever reason people maintaining these central tools don't seem to understand that the unfortunate realtiy of being in that position is maintaining compatibilty for far longer than anyone wants to16:26
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgwell, one is covered with tests, other is not - at least that is a difference16:27
@clarkb:matrix.orgI understand this I help maintain pbr and we do a good job there imo and it really isn't that difficult. It still supports python2.716:27
@clarkb:matrix.orgbecause if we dropped python2.7 yaer old swift installations would suddenly break and I don't think that is fair to anyone running swift16:27
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgI don't think there was intention to break it.16:28
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgBut again - hard to blame for missing tests for smth marked as deprecated16:28
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913616:32
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913616:35
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgok, I think it should work now16:36
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgI am just surprised that warnings are printed to stdout rather the stderr...16:36
@clarkb:matrix.orgzuul by default combines stdout and stderr16:36
@clarkb:matrix.orgthere is a flag to split them and the goal is to make that the default eventually, but it is a potentially big change16:37
@clarkb:matrix.org(they could still be writing to stdout I'm not sure just wanted to clarify that zuul does combine them by default iirc)16:38
@jim:acmegating.comyeah, any job you can enable that on now makes it more future-proof16:38
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Elod Illes proposed: [openstack/project-config] 979312: Cap tox<4.48.0 for tox-cover https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/97931216:43
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Elod Illes proposed: [openstack/project-config] 979312: Cap tox<4.48.0 for publish-tox-docs-releases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/97931216:45
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orgok, so it's passing now16:46
@noonedeadpunk:matrix.orghaving `--quiet` was actually a key16:47
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Dmitriy Rabotyagov: [zuul/zuul-jobs] 979136: Replace --showconfig with config https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/97913617:06
@clarkb:matrix.orgfungi: looks like the smaller backup server is at 95% full. I'm still not into the infra root email after the hosting change. Can you check if alters are going there? I'm going to work on pruning the server now so that we don't fill up19:11
@fungicide:matrix.orgi'll take a look19:16
@fungicide:matrix.orgafter filtering out the gerrit-generated noise (ndrs and change notifications), i don't see any new backup failures reported since 2026-02-2219:19
@clarkb:matrix.orgfungi: this would be the utilization warning from the backup server not the backup failure messages from the actual service nodes19:21
@clarkb:matrix.orgI mostly want to make sure we're still getting them and not losing them to the new spam filter or similar rule checks19:21
@fungicide:matrix.orgoh, right, nevertheless no notification for that has arrived... oh i should check spam19:27
@fungicide:matrix.orgmmm, 34k spam messages. this will take a few minutes19:27
@fungicide:matrix.orgcloser to 35k actually19:28
@fungicide:matrix.orglooks like that's been right at two weeks since i last cleared it out, so we're accumulating a little over 100/hr19:30
@clarkb:matrix.orgmaybe we laso need to check exim on the backup server19:37
@fungicide:matrix.orgafter a few different patterns to delete vastly more bounce notifications and gerrit messages, we're down to 5 actual spam messages, and 5 backup volume usage notifications19:40
@fungicide:matrix.orgso the spam classification rate of gmail is somewhere around 0.01% accurate for us19:41
@fungicide:matrix.org(i moved the backup notifications to the inbox)19:42
@clarkb:matrix.orgok pruning is done now too and we're down to 75% utilization19:42
@clarkb:matrix.orgslowly creeping up each time we run the pruning19:42
@fungicide:matrix.orgfwiw, the latest one from today put the volume usage at 93%, looks like it's growing around 1%/day over the past 4 days19:43
@clarkb:matrix.orglogs are in the typical location19:43
@fungicide:matrix.orgi'll try to remember to check the spam folder regularly now19:43
@clarkb:matrix.orgI haev a change up to purge some backups. I'll make a note to followup and maybe actually get that done on monday19:43
@fungicide:matrix.orgsounds great19:44
@clarkb:matrix.orgI have to pop out shortly for an in person lf activity so today isn't good for that19:44
@fungicide:matrix.orgenjoy activitying!19:44

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