Friday, 2026-04-10

@mnasiadka:matrix.orgcorvus: there’s a task in post that does df - you can see full /opt there05:07
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Michal Nasiadka proposed: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 983860: Add entries for mirror03.ord.rax https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98386012:53
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Michal Nasiadka: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 983851: Promote mirror04.gra1.ovh https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98385113:09
@fungicide:matrix.orgmnasiadka: yes, also useful but doesn't get us disk usage trends over the course of the job13:22
@fungicide:matrix.orgonly the final state13:22
@fungicide:matrix.org5-minute load average on our gitea backends right now ranges from 0.11 (gitea11) to 1.32 (gitea10)13:24
@fungicide:matrix.orgsite is up and responsive13:25
@fungicide:matrix.orgchecking gitea access logs on the backends, a typical mix of requests are making it through anubis just fine13:26
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Michal Nasiadka proposed: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 983860: Add entries for mirror03.ord.rax https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98386013:30
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgfungi: that sounds like a promise of at least not that often fire drills13:31
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgfungi: DIB creates a raw, qcow2 and vhd in the same run, especially that vhd creation requires quite some amount of storage due to intermediate (and .bak)13:32
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgSo it might be we were close before, and now with Resolute things got bigger13:32
@fungicide:matrix.orgmnasiadka: that's been our suspicion, yes13:36
@fungicide:matrix.orgbut it's hard to tell just looking at the end state since files may have gotten deleted before then13:37
@fungicide:matrix.orgespecially if it was something like a huge tempfile that got immediately unlinked when the parent process hit enospc13:38
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgI think frickler has held a node for debugging, I was planning to just run the build locally on a VM and check sizings of all image types13:43
@fungicide:matrix.orggood plan, curious to hear how it goes13:44
@fungicide:matrix.orgjust remember that the disk usage at the end may be less than at some points during the build13:44
@fungicide:matrix.org(as in it's teoretically possible, but i don't know if it ever will be in practice)13:45
@fungicide:matrix.orgtheoretically13:45
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Michal Nasiadka proposed: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 984030: Replace whitespaces with tabs https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98403013:50
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Jeremy Stanley https://matrix.to/#/@fungicide:matrix.org marked as active: [openstack/project-config] 977380: Replace 2026.1/Gazpacho key with 2026.2/Hibiscus https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/97738014:09
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Jeremy Stanley https://matrix.to/#/@fungicide:matrix.org: [openstack/project-config] 977380: Replace 2026.1/Gazpacho key with 2026.2/Hibiscus https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/97738014:20
@clarkb:matrix.orgI have to do a school run. Have we landed an acl change yet to exercise manage-projects yet?14:22
@clarkb:matrix.orgI think that is a good idea if we have one. Then if that looks good we can go for full project creation14:23
@fungicide:matrix.orgnot yet, no, i was checking on the health of things and wrapping up a meeting14:23
@clarkb:matrix.orgI guess the daily run would've exercises it a bit too14:29
@clarkb:matrix.orgIf we want to find those logs on bridge14:29
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f49fa46920864ed89f29dd83f891f1d7 this is the daily manage-projects run from today. It succeeded. So ya I think next step is acl update then mordred's new project14:46
@mordred:waterwanders.comhuzzah!14:46
@clarkb:matrix.orgI have approved https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/981924 which is the acl update fungi called out yesterday14:47
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgClark: if you'll have some time today - I updated https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/983860 (and posted a patch on top to convert all whitespaces to tabs)14:51
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgThere are also https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/983610 and https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/983911 that are waiting for fungi (or somebody that is not Clark) ;-)14:53
@clarkb:matrix.orgmnasiadka: I approved the first DNS update. I might hold off on the tab cleanup for now. Mostly because I'm hoping for an easy straightforward day and big dns refactor (even if it should noop) is maybe not in line with that14:55
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgClark: I just posted that because it was quite easy to do, it can wait for a better day :-)14:55
@clarkb:matrix.orgmnasiadka: according to grafana mirror.ubuntu has continued to release after I was done with it. Did this fix the problem you saw with stale packages?14:56
@clarkb:matrix.orgSeeing job retries due to failure to connect to the ovh gra1 mirror15:00
@clarkb:matrix.orglooks like it tries both ipv4 and ipv6 if I'm reading that correctly15:01
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Dmitriy Rabotyagov: [openstack/project-config] 981924: Introduce OpenStack-Ansible Power Reviewers group https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/98192415:01
@clarkb:matrix.orgmnasiadka: it looks like apache isn't running or configured there15:03
@clarkb:matrix.orgdid we update DNS before the inventory maybe?15:03
@clarkb:matrix.orgyes I think that is what happened15:05
@clarkb:matrix.orgI'll push a revert for the DNS update now15:05
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Clark Boylan proposed: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 984049: Revert "Promote mirror04.gra1.ovh" https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98404915:06
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Clark Boylan proposed: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 984049: Revert "Promote mirror04.gra1.ovh" https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98404915:07
@clarkb:matrix.orgneed to remember that git revert doesn't update the serial in the correct direction15:07
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/983610 is the change15:08
@clarkb:matrix.org* https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/983610 is the change to add the server to the inventory and configure it as a mirror15:08
@clarkb:matrix.orgI think things are mostly working due to zuul retries. But getting that reviewed and merged quickly is probably a good idea. I'll likely self approve once check testing comes back happy15:10
@fungicide:matrix.orgi approved the revert and also the missed inventory addition15:13
@clarkb:matrix.orgthanks. Need to monitor it and make sure it doesn't fail as our zone fiel checking appears to install the tool it needs in run not pre-run so won't retry15:14
@clarkb:matrix.orgthe acl update deployment is running now and shouldn't be affected by this.15:14
@clarkb:matrix.orgyup it failed. https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/c86fd71abc4346d3b342e609fd6b3342/log/job-output.txt#27915:20
@clarkb:matrix.orgdo we want to try force merging it? I think gra1 has lots of capacity because jobs are kicking out quickly there which causes more thinsg to schedule there15:20
@clarkb:matrix.orgalternatively I could set max-servers to 0 in gra1, land the revert, then restore gra1 after enough dns cache ttl timeout has happened15:21
@clarkb:matrix.orgmaybe that is the best approach15:21
@fungicide:matrix.orgdeploy for the acl update did succeed though15:22
@clarkb:matrix.orgcool. That doesn't rely on the mirror in gra1 but good that it is running happily after yesterday's gitea work15:22
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Clark Boylan proposed: [opendev/zuul-providers] 984053: Temporarily disable ovh gra1 while we fix its mirror https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zuul-providers/+/98405315:23
@clarkb:matrix.orgthat runs noop jobs so should succeed. If we approve that we can then rerun jobs to update dns and reenable the region once caches should be clean15:24
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgClark: re Ubuntu mirror it works fine now15:24
@fungicide:matrix.orgi've approved 984053, was going to try to pop out early for lunch right now if things are not really on fire15:25
@clarkb:matrix.orgfungi: I think its fine. Once the region is disabled we can take our time to fix it15:25
@clarkb:matrix.orgI'll recheck the dns revert as soon a the zuul-providers change lands15:25
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Clark Boylan: [opendev/zuul-providers] 984053: Temporarily disable ovh gra1 while we fix its mirror https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zuul-providers/+/98405315:26
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgClark: argh, I need to be better with depends-on - I was pretty sure that mirror is in the inventory15:27
@clarkb:matrix.orgya I think its a good reminder to double check relationships when pushing and when reviewing15:27
@fungicide:matrix.orgi'll be back in an hour-ish and can get back to trying to fix the apt-puppetlabs mirroring then15:27
@clarkb:matrix.orgsounds good. I think the immediate gra thing should be handled. The dns update should be mergeable after the recheck now and then we can put gra1 back into the rotation in an hour or so.15:28
@clarkb:matrix.orgfungi: maybe when you get back we approve mordred's project change. I'll go review it now15:28
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Clark Boylan proposed: [opendev/zuul-providers] 984056: Revert "Temporarily disable ovh gra1 while we fix its mirror" https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zuul-providers/+/98405615:32
@clarkb:matrix.orgThere's the change to put gra1 back itno the rotation once dns and mirror look happy again15:32
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Clark Boylan: [opendev/zone-opendev.org] 984049: Revert "Promote mirror04.gra1.ovh" https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/98404915:41
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgClark: run static failed in 983610 (launchpad down again?) but the mirror job succeeded16:00
@clarkb:matrix.orgYes looks like ppa access problems 16:01
@clarkb:matrix.orgI'm able to get the gra mirror now. but will probably wait for another 40 minutes or so before approving the revert to add gra1 back to the pool just to be sure16:02
@mnasiadka:matrix.orgThanks and sorry for the trouble ;)16:06
@clarkb:matrix.orgno worries. This si why we start with the mirrors. Its a good space to learn in where the stakes are lower16:12
@clarkb:matrix.orgI have approved the change to put gra1 back into the zuul-launcher mix16:47
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Clark Boylan: [opendev/zuul-providers] 984056: Revert "Temporarily disable ovh gra1 while we fix its mirror" https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zuul-providers/+/98405616:47
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/stream/04e349cae59849c2a59af98b1224510a?logfile=console.log is running in gra1. I'm following its stream log16:52
@clarkb:matrix.orgI think the apt cache update is working. But the task hasn't completed yet16:54
@fungicide:matrix.orgapproved mordred's 983912 now16:55
@fungicide:matrix.organd yes, lp's matrix room has been abuzz with discussion of ppa problems again today16:56
@clarkb:matrix.orgthe job I linked to failed, but did so in its own unittests. the whole apt cache update, run bindep, install things with apt and then later pip seem to have worked16:59
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Monty Taylor https://matrix.to/#/@mordred:inaugust.com: [openstack/project-config] 983912: Add gerrit plugin for openclaw https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/98391217:08
@clarkb:matrix.orgmanage-projects has just started17:10
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://opendev.org/inaugust/openclaw-gerrit exists and has the jeepyb created .gitreview file in it17:16
@clarkb:matrix.orgthe job reported success as well17:16
@clarkb:matrix.orgI think that all checks out to me17:16
@fungicide:matrix.orgthere's a related one too, https://review.opendev.org/98392417:18
@clarkb:matrix.orgI have approved that one as well17:19
@clarkb:matrix.orgwith that largely wrapping up the immediate concerns around gitea I think my next focus is Gerrit upgrade prep. fungi have you had a chance to look at the etherpad yet? curious if you've got any feedback or have anything that jumps out at you as needing attention before Sunday?17:20
@clarkb:matrix.orgOtherwise I think my plan is to be at the comptuer around 1900 so there is plenty of time to send notices and add things to the emergency file before doing the actual upgrade at 20:00 as announced17:21
@fungicide:matrix.orgi believe i did look at the upgrade etherpad, but will do so again since we're 2 days out17:26
@fungicide:matrix.orgwhat's the url, just to be sure i'm not looking at the wrong one?17:26
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gerrit-upgrade-3.1217:27
@clarkb:matrix.organd honestly if we can't think of anything that needs to be addressed in ^ before Sunday I may just pop out after lunch. Its been a busy week and I'll be working sunday too17:28
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Zuul merged on behalf of Monty Taylor https://matrix.to/#/@mordred:inaugust.com: [openstack/project-config] 983924: Add an OpenClaw plugin for Zuul integration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/98392417:28
@fungicide:matrix.orgyou really should17:28
@clarkb:matrix.orgdoes the @ in zuul@openstack.org here: https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/release-job-failures@lists.openstack.org/thread/DRCXRRA7Y76HO6BGGXFK2C2QJXDI3I54/ render as an ff20 glyph for anyone else? I'm surprised that my font doesn't have the full width commercial at symbol in it17:39
@clarkb:matrix.organd also that mailman translates ascii @ to 0xff2017:39
@clarkb:matrix.orgnot a big deal. more of a "huh why would they replace the @ and why is my font broken"17:39
@mordred:waterwanders.comClark: it looks normal to me?17:40
@mordred:waterwanders.comalthough - I wonder if it's an attempt to stop email scrapers?17:40
@clarkb:matrix.orgoohhh yes I bet that is the purpose17:41
@fungicide:matrix.orgyes, i think hyperkitty may do that translation17:41
@clarkb:matrix.orgmy three fonts are serif: liberation serif, sans-serif: roboto, and monospace: source code pro17:42
@clarkb:matrix.orgthat looks sans serif so roboto must not include ff20?17:42
@fungicide:matrix.orgmy browser's fontset renders that glyph visually similar enough tio @ as to be indistinct17:42
@clarkb:matrix.orgor maybe it is monospace and it is source code pro without the code point17:42
@fungicide:matrix.orgpage source also uses zuul@openstack.org so it's done in the content17:43
@fungicide:matrix.orgmy terminal renders it in cjk/east asian width, but my browser must be kerning it to approximately normal western width17:45
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto?specimen.preview.text=%EF%BC%A0 and https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Source+Code+Pro?specimen.preview.text=%EF%BC%A0 both imply maybe neither have it. Except i don't know if the ff20 char is being explicitly used there rather than the codepoint17:47
@clarkb:matrix.orgit renders on my phone which should also use roboto so probably something wtiht my system fonts or firefox fonts. Weird17:51
@fungicide:matrix.orghttps://gitlab.com/mailman/hyperkitty/-/commit/133172b17:51
@fungicide:matrix.orgclassic commit message17:52
@fungicide:matrix.orgbut it's been doing that since the mm2 days, commit authored almost 14 years ago17:52
@fungicide:matrix.orgthough hyperkitty, not pipermail (which is what we used for the mm2 archive frontend)17:53
@fungicide:matrix.orgor maybe that was for very early mm3, but was back in the python 2.x version17:53
@fungicide:matrix.organyway, no related explanation that i can find, so mordred's guess matches mine17:54
@fungicide:matrix.orgit's at least been that way for as long as we've been using hyperkitty, from what i can tell17:55
@clarkb:matrix.orgya that explanation makes sense to me17:57
@clarkb:matrix.orgI did some testing in a terminal and none of my monospcae fonts there seem to know what to do with the character. Not a huge deal17:57
@clarkb:matrix.orgit does plenty of other unicode just fine including 4 byte chars so its weird that a 2 byte would be missing17:58
@clarkb:matrix.orghttps://ubuntu.social/@launchpadstatus has more lp info though doesn't have notes about the most recent issues. It does call out git as being a problem elsewhere. Git really is a trap for the crawlers.18:04
@fungicide:matrix.org99.99999% (or more) of the web is not git-oriented content, so it's understandable that typical web crawlers don't optimize for it18:05
@harbott.osism.tech:regio.chatalso maybe 99% of the git-web content is github, so easy to just special case that and ignore everyone else?18:24
-@gerrit:opendev.org- Jeremy Stanley https://matrix.to/#/@fungicide:matrix.org proposed: [opendev/system-config] 984123: Refresh the Puppetlabs Secure APT repository key https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/98412320:35
@fungicide:matrix.orgthat ^ turned out to be simpler than expected, just a bit of legwork to track down and test20:35
@fungicide:matrix.orgi do fully expect other errors once that's fixed, but will deal with them in additional changes20:46
@clarkb:matrix.orgI +2'd it21:01
@clarkb:matrix.orgI did not grab the key and check it independently. Mostly trusting that fungi did that leg work21:01
@clarkb:matrix.orgalso last call on whether or not anything needs doing before Sunday's Gerrit upgrade. I'm about to do a school run and am plannnig to unplug after that21:01
@fungicide:matrix.orgi did read back through the etherpad and i'm good with what's there. planning to be around starting at 19:00 utc to start prep steps ahead of the outage21:12
@clarkb:matrix.orgSee you then21:16
@fungicide:matrix.orglikewise!21:17
@fungicide:matrix.orghttps://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/message/G5IVTDP2TNGG6DNN6CQOVZESJFN6VZ7J/ proposes removing nova-network support from osc, will that impact our use of rackspace classic?21:48
@clarkb:matrix.orgUnclear. We don't explicitly manage networks in tax classic but I don't know if that relies on support within osc21:49
@clarkb:matrix.orgMaybe we can try a build with support removed and see if it works21:49
@fungicide:matrix.orgoh, good point, if we don't need to add/modify networks then it's likely irrelevant21:49
@fungicide:matrix.orgClark: how far ahead did you want to un-wip and merge 983474?21:56
@fungicide:matrix.orgon sunday, or sooner?21:56
@fungicide:matrix.orgi assume we're planning to do steps 4-6 in the plan about an hour ahead at 19:00 utc21:57
@clarkb:matrix.orgfungi: I think for 983474 we unwip and approve it once we're running on gerrit 3.12. That is step 3022:02
@clarkb:matrix.organd yes 4-6 should happen around 190022:02
@clarkb:matrix.orgstep 3 is mostly just to remind us to be prepared for step 3022:02
@clarkb:matrix.orgwrite and push the change and make sure it is mergeable22:02
@clarkb:matrix.orgbut don't merge it until later in step 3022:02
@fungicide:matrix.orgah okay22:08
@fungicide:matrix.orgso that step is done already then22:08
@fungicide:matrix.orgi'll mark it off since i've +2'd the wip change22:08
@clarkb:matrix.orgSounds good thanks22:11

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