| megheisler | \o I’ll be a few minutes late as well, having a small connection issue | 16:03 |
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| fungi | meeting's starting in ~55 minutes yeah? | 16:04 |
| megheisler | You’re right, I didn’t scheduled it UTC on my personal calendar. Thanks Fungi | 16:07 |
| fungi | my pleasure | 16:08 |
| spotz | And I'm back from the vet so I'll be on time;) | 16:23 |
| spotz | #startmeeting diversity-wg | 17:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg' | 17:01 |
| spotz | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)" | 17:01 | |
| spotz | Lisa-Marie messaged me that she had a conflict. I replied with the meeting being an hour later but not sure what time her conflict was for;) | 17:02 |
| * fungi is around | 17:05 | |
| spotz | megheisler? | 17:06 |
| spotz | Ok I'll just move on | 17:08 |
| spotz | #topic PTG:) | 17:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG:) (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)" | 17:08 | |
| fungi | it's a couple weeks away | 17:09 |
| spotz | So as mentioned in the agenda I grabbed our usual PTG day and time of Monday at 16:00 UTC. We'll use a meetpad room unless anyone has a problem with that? | 17:09 |
| spotz | Yeahbut this is our only meeting before it | 17:09 |
| fungi | should be fine | 17:09 |
| spotz | We might need to make a new room so the etherpad is correct but we don't tend to have large numbers. | 17:10 |
| fungi | "a couple weeks away" was supposed to sound like "omg how am i going to get everything done in the next two weeks!" | 17:10 |
| spotz | hehehe | 17:10 |
| spotz | I've got PTG, RH Summit and Kubecon all coming up, but no travel:( | 17:10 |
| spotz | I was wondering if we wanted to do our session like an office hours if anyone wanted too come in with their naming or D&I questions? | 17:11 |
| fungi | probably if there are going to be questions, they'll be about the inclusive language statement and recommendations | 17:12 |
| megheisler | Apologies, I’m still have connection issues and catching up now | 17:12 |
| fungi | though sure, happy to help try to answer questions on just about anything related to diversity and inclusion | 17:12 |
| spotz | Poor megheisler:( | 17:12 |
| spotz | I *think* and please correct me if I'm wrong but we don't have any current projects? | 17:13 |
| megheisler | Ok caught up but I’m on a phone :( no current projects I can think of | 17:13 |
| fungi | not unless you count trying to get some formal board acknowledgement of the inclusive language support statement | 17:14 |
| spotz | We're stiill kinda waiting on Jimmy to put the stance on the site which will link the word lists. I do need to add the wiki page to the Inclusive Naming groups master list of links | 17:14 |
| spotz | fungi: The stance is the formal board acknowledgement | 17:14 |
| spotz | It's approved, no vote needed | 17:14 |
| spotz | Hence waiting on Jimmy too get it oon the new site | 17:15 |
| fungi | member companies asked the board for a statement, the board asked the wg to write a statement... the board doesn't need to approve something written in its name? | 17:15 |
| spotz | Approved during meetings and on the mailing list | 17:15 |
| fungi | but no board resolution that makes it into the minutes? | 17:16 |
| fungi | seems incomplete to me, but i guess that's more effort than they felt it warranted | 17:16 |
| spotz | fungi: I'll double check that, but I asked Alan if we needed to schedule a vote during a meeting and he said we were good | 17:16 |
| fungi | okie-dokie. just worried that it's a statement made by the board of directors without the board going on record that they believe the statement correctly represents their position | 17:17 |
| spotz | Almost every draft was seen by the board. I made sure of that. And there was some feedback received which we incorporated. | 17:18 |
| spotz | I'll double check with Allison Randall and make sure. Then I'll ping Jimmy again for a status. | 17:19 |
| spotz | #action Spotz will double check with Allison Randall and make sure. Then will ping Jimmy again for a status. | 17:19 |
| fungi | yep, i mean, i feel like we've got it covered from our end, it's just not clear to me that the board has officially answered the questions put to them by the member companies. they asked us to write something, we can have the foundation staff publish it i suppose | 17:19 |
| fungi | but is it really from the board until the board says it is? | 17:20 |
| spotz | Of course we've got some new members now, but I can't see anyone saying it's bad don't publish it | 17:20 |
| fungi | right, i don't think we should delay publication | 17:20 |
| fungi | more just not clear on whether we're lacking some formality since we're effectively speaking for the board | 17:21 |
| spotz | From the discussions I saw as the WG chair and a board member it is supported by the board. But I will verify everything | 17:21 |
| spotz | I know you like everything in order:) | 17:21 |
| spotz | I'll also scan the board minutes just in case it's already in there | 17:22 |
| fungi | from a similar perspective, i want to say the board had a resolution on adopting the code of conduct | 17:22 |
| spotz | I remember working on the last version of the COC but can't remember who it was handed off to for approval | 17:23 |
| spotz | Back then there were more foundation members involved in the meetings so someone might have just taken it back | 17:25 |
| spotz | aka Erin, Allison, etc all attended the WoW meetings | 17:25 |
| spotz | err WoO:) | 17:26 |
| * fungi knew what you meant | 17:27 | |
| spotz | :) | 17:27 |
| spotz | Ok so going with Allison confirms the All good, Jimmy gives us an ETA on the stance being published. Is the office hours idea the best plan for PTG? | 17:28 |
| megheisler | I believe so | 17:28 |
| fungi | sgth! | 17:29 |
| fungi | er, sounds good to me! | 17:29 |
| spotz | Ok and based on any feedback or if it's just us we can fill the time on what we want to do next? | 17:30 |
| fungi | yep, that works | 17:31 |
| spotz | I am hoping to have a social 'hour' during the 17:00 UTC break on Tuesday or Thursday. It'll be sponsored by RDO but if we want it to be D^I we can do that | 17:31 |
| fungi | i guess the event coordinators are aware so they can promote it? | 17:32 |
| spotz | Yeah I ran it past the Kendalls to make sure it was ok | 17:34 |
| fungi | awesome | 17:34 |
| spotz | So I've got a few recommendations for trivial type online resources and I'll check and see about paying for a service and prizes besides RDO Victoria shirts | 17:36 |
| fungi | diversity and inclusion social hour sponsored by rdo? | 17:38 |
| fungi | has a nice ring to it | 17:38 |
| spotz | I personally don't have an issue with that:) Or one soonsored by RH and one by RDO, but that many is more an in person thing | 17:39 |
| spotz | So I'll work on that internally. And we all can work on the actual event:) | 17:40 |
| fungi | sounds like fun | 17:41 |
| spotz | So looking at what Fedora has done as I asked if folks had done anything successfully virtually. They did Pictionary, Tetris, VR, and Trivia | 17:44 |
| spotz | I'm betweeen Pictionary and Trivia myself | 17:45 |
| fungi | i've always meant to set up an irc triviabot with openstack trivia questions/answers, but never had the time | 17:45 |
| fungi | we did something similar at a job many years ago, took a typical triviabot and pointed it at a q&a file built from technical certification sample tests, so the staff could have friendly competition now and then but also study for their mandatory certifications at the same time | 17:47 |
| spotz | I just pulled up a lot of history for a What is OpenStack | 17:47 |
| spotz | So we could mix say OpenStack and cities where we've had summits or PTGs? | 17:52 |
| fungi | yep. i think the kendalls have done trivia stuff for previous ptgs as well as foundation staff get-togethers, so may have suggestions as well | 17:54 |
| spotz | Ok lets lean that ways. I'll email the core group group once I know more from my side | 17:55 |
| spotz | We have 5 minutes left | 17:56 |
| spotz | 1 minute left:) Anyone have anythhing else? | 17:59 |
| fungi | i got nothin | 17:59 |
| fungi | except for thanks spotz! | 17:59 |
| spotz | You're welcome and htanks for coming and paarticipating:) | 18:00 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: diversity-wg)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 5 18:00:14 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2021/diversity_wg.2021-04-05-17.01.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2021/diversity_wg.2021-04-05-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2021/diversity_wg.2021-04-05-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
| spotz | And reading through my typoes:) | 18:00 |
| fungi | i've probably got you beat on typos | 18:02 |
| spotz | hehe | 18:09 |
| spotz | I usually kill a key or tw on the Macs after a year or 2, this one started sooner | 18:09 |
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