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| croelandt | #glance etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/oct2025-ptg-glance | 16:09 |
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| openinfraptg | croelandt: Unknown track 'glance' | 16:09 |
| croelandt | Does anyone have the permission to add a track? | 16:11 |
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| fungi | ~add glance | 16:23 |
| fungi | ~list | 16:23 |
| openinfraptg | fungi: Available tracks: blazar cinder cloudkitty designate eventlet glance horizon i18n ironic kata keystone kolla magnum maint-contrib-xp manila neutron nova octavia ops-radio os-ansible os-helm os-tc public-cloud-sig release-mgt starlingx sunbeam swift tacker telemetry watcher | 16:23 |
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| fungi | #glance url https://meetpad.opendev.org/oct2025-ptg-glance | 16:24 |
| fungi | croelandt: diablo_rojo_phone: i added glance just now | 16:24 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Thank you fungi | 16:26 |
| fungi | my pleasure | 16:27 |
| gouthamr | #manila etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/gazpacho-ptg-manila | 17:02 |
| fungi | gouthamr: if manila is going to use meetpad, then you probably want to update the track url to match, like #manila url https://meetpad.opendev.org/gazpacho-ptg-manila (or to whatever the url is for where you're meeting anyway) | 17:08 |
| gouthamr | nice, yeah, that'd make sense.. carloss wdyt ^ | 17:09 |
| gouthamr | we have some folk that struggled with meetpad unfortunately - they have some issues where they need to use their corporate VPN, and something there makes meetpad unusable | 17:10 |
| fungi | oh, interesting, that's the first i've heard of corporate vpn being in the mix but i can bet the company firewalls are then blocking jitsi's webrtc connections | 17:11 |
| fungi | regardless, remember to update the track url to whatever you'll be using, even if it's not meetpad | 17:12 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 17:12 |
| openinfraptg | gouthamr: Unknown user command. Should be: in, out, seen, or subscribe | 17:12 |
| gouthamr | #manila url https://meetpad.opendev.org/gazpacho-ptg-manila | 17:13 |
| gouthamr | ^ we can update this if we decide not to | 17:13 |
| fungi | but if you do use meetpad, having the room name match your etherpad name will result in that pad being embedded as the shared document in jitsi rather than it being a different empty etherpad | 17:13 |
| gouthamr | yep | 17:14 |
| croelandt | fungi: thanks a lot | 17:21 |
| croelandt | fungi: I think I must have missed an email or something :/ | 17:21 |
| clarkb | gouthamr: I don't know that it helps in this situation but you can install a jitsi meet cleitn on both android and ios and connect that way (potentially bypassing corporate vpn if just using the phone for comms) then have the etherpad up on your laptop/desktop/workstation | 17:23 |
| gouthamr | clarkb: sounds like a good alternative, and should help indeed | 17:24 |
| gouthamr | screen sharing for some show-and-tell would probably be a concern, but, we can work around iyt | 17:25 |
| clarkb | gouthamr: you basically set the server name in your settinsg to meetpad.opendev.org and then the room is the gazpacho-ptg-manila part of the url | 17:25 |
| gouthamr | i def love using meetpad, and wouldn't want to resort to proprietary solutions | 17:25 |
| gouthamr | although people have started seeking "AI Notes" now :D i've told them we'd record and you can seek transcriptions off of the youtube video | 17:26 |
| clarkb | well also you're supposed to write down the notes in the etherpad. Thats the whole point. And then you know its not some poor interpration of what was said | 17:28 |
| gouthamr | true | 17:29 |
| gouthamr | are we planning any plugins to jitsi? https://github.com/jitsi/jigasi | 17:29 |
| gouthamr | (i suppose you'll get the question from the OIF board regarding gerrit plugins for AI code reviews too) | 17:30 |
| clarkb | no we (opendev) don't have access to any llms at the moment. I also have concerns with default opting services like gerrit and jitsi into these tools due to their take all possible information appraoch to building their learning data set | 17:31 |
| clarkb | what we've proposed people look into with Gerrit is creating zuul jobs/roles that allow projects with credentials to llms to prompt them for what the project finds useful in an opt in manner (via explicit configuratio nof the job) | 17:32 |
| gouthamr | oh, neat idea | 17:32 |
| clarkb | for simple transcription its possible that we could add that if that can be run locally on the jitsi meet instance without an llm (I'm not sure) | 17:33 |
| clarkb | looks like vosk may be local in that readme | 17:34 |
| clarkb | oh and libretranslate looks local too. So for that specific case I think this probably possible if someone wants to figureo ut how to run those services locally to avoid the data leakage concern | 17:35 |
| gouthamr | https://alphacephei.com/vosk/models - none terribly large | 17:41 |
| clarkb | that big model is still probably twice as big as the server currently running the service | 17:43 |
| clarkb | so have to consider if it is worth doubling the size of the entire service for this one feature | 17:43 |
| clarkb | and that is perlanguage too | 17:44 |
| gouthamr | oh i see | 17:45 |
| gouthamr | yes, and we'd stick to English since we've accepted that as the language of doing business here, but, it'd be really cool to extend it to other languages in the future | 17:46 |
| clarkb | but maybe the smaller models would work well enough and if so that seems reasonable. Likely needs testing if someone is interested in doing it | 17:48 |
| clarkb | our test envs for meetpad can be held if someone sets up a change to deploy and configure the transcription and then tested there | 17:49 |
| carloss | > nice, yeah, that'd make sense.. carloss wdyt ^ | 18:28 |
| carloss | gouthamr sounds good and thanks for updating the url :) | 18:28 |
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