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| sai_igdtuw | Hi.. I want to deploy openstack juno 3 node architecture(controller, network and one compute) for my project. So for the setup I am using a unmanaged switch to implement the management network. I am facing two issues: 1) On the management network the network node is not able to ping the controller & compute, while the controller and compute can ping one another. 2) The network and the compute can't access the internet wh | 07:27 |
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| Abdus | hi | 14:19 |
| Abdus | I am new to open stack and would like to contribute.. = | 14:19 |
| Abdus | I am reading the wiki.. but any suggestions would be great :-) | 14:20 |
| Abdus | thanks in advance | 14:20 |
| vkmc | hey Abdus, welcome! | 14:23 |
| Abdus | Hi | 14:23 |
| vkmc | OpenStack is quite big, so probably the best is to understand which project you want to contribute to | 14:23 |
| vkmc | and then start learning more about that project in particular | 14:24 |
| Abdus | oh ok.. I have read that it has several projects... I will read about those projects... | 14:25 |
| Abdus | is there any one account i can create and work with for all the projects repositories and email subscriptions? | 14:25 |
| Abdus | I have created a ubuntu one account but dont know what to do with that | 14:27 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting Upstream training prep | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 19 16:01:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'upstream_training_prep' | 16:01 |
| mrmartin | o/ | 16:01 |
| kmARC | o/ | 16:01 |
| ianychoi | o/ | 16:01 |
| berendt | o/ | 16:01 |
| csatari | o/ | 16:01 |
| ildikov | roll-call :) | 16:01 |
| xyang | hi | 16:01 |
| csatari | (whatever that means) | 16:02 |
| csatari | hi | 16:02 |
| ildikov | let's wait a bit for others to show up | 16:03 |
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| ianychoi | ildikov, I suggest to use "#startmeeting Upstream training" for real upstream training, since we need to not to make too much different log directories on http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ | 16:03 |
| ianychoi | Currently, there are "upstream_korea", "upstream_training", and "upstream_training_prep" :) | 16:03 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: ok, tnx for the heads up | 16:03 |
| ildikov | vkmc: are you around? | 16:04 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, np :) | 16:04 |
| ildikov | ok, let's start :) | 16:05 |
| kmARC | (maybe one also could set the topic on this channel ;-) ) | 16:05 |
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| ianychoi | usually chair can the topic | 16:05 |
| ildikov | #chair kmARC | 16:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ildikov kmARC | 16:05 |
| ildikov | kmARC: feel free ;) | 16:05 |
| ianychoi | kmARC, please set topic! | 16:05 |
| vkmc | here o/ | 16:06 |
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| ildikov | coolio :) | 16:06 |
| ildikov | our chaotic but full of info etherpad: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements | 16:06 |
| winggundamth__ | hi | 16:06 |
| ildikov | I drafted an agenda which currently outlines more the order of blocks and not the length | 16:07 |
| ildikov | winggundamth__: hi, thanks for joining | 16:07 |
| ianychoi | Although I did not notice opening such meeting, fortunately I am online now :) | 16:07 |
| ildikov | Sunday will be more about lectures, but we tried to add exercises as many as we could | 16:08 |
| ildikov | we have five hours that day | 16:08 |
| winggundamth__ | I'm first timer here as a mentor. be a mentee before from last summit. please let me know if I could be any help :) | 16:08 |
| ildikov | we will start with introductions and forming groups of people so that they can do the exercises as group effort | 16:08 |
| ildikov | so far it seems we will not have enough mentors/coaches to have one person assigned to each team | 16:09 |
| mrmartin | how much attendees we have? | 16:09 |
| ildikov | so far more than 30 students confirmed they are coming | 16:10 |
| ildikov | and we have two groups reached out directly after we closed the registration | 16:10 |
| ildikov | as we usually have a high ratio of no show we encouraged them to prepare that they can fit in | 16:10 |
| ildikov | there will be a few students be late a bit on Sunday | 16:11 |
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| ildikov | so after the intro we have the sections about the OpenStack community in the sense of how it is structured and how we are working together | 16:12 |
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| ildikov | I think at the end of the day we could spend time on setting up the environment if someone does not have it yet | 16:12 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: do you think it's a good timing? ^^ | 16:12 |
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| kmARC | hm | 16:13 |
| kmARC | yes | 16:13 |
| ildikov | ok, I'll add a note to the etherpad then :) | 16:13 |
| ildikov | how much time do you think we should allocate to it? | 16:13 |
| kmARC | an hour at minimum | 16:15 |
| ildikov | kmARC: ^ | 16:15 |
| kmARC | sorry had a network interruption | 16:15 |
| ildikov | uh, ok | 16:16 |
| ildikov | do you think we could try to get people started to have the VMs and give them home work and check on it Monday morning? | 16:16 |
| vkmc | I like the idea of leaving some space for environment setup and debugging if needed | 16:16 |
| kmARC | yes | 16:17 |
| kmARC | I'll update the vm today tho | 16:17 |
| kmARC | I already got a feedback | 16:17 |
| ildikov | sure, I understand it takes time, we just don't have too much of it :( | 16:17 |
| ildikov | so I was wondering to reserve some time for it to Monday morning when people are warming up to fix the remaining issues | 16:18 |
| ildikov | kmARC: is there smth that's not working? | 16:18 |
| csatari | What if we do this before 9 on Monday? | 16:18 |
| kmARC | there are two issues: | 16:19 |
| kmARC | 1) warning about ccannot mount vagrant user dir (already fixed it, will commit in a couple hours) | 16:19 |
| kmARC | 2) there is a network setup which is needed to be performed if one uses the prebuilt ova file, I need to document that | 16:19 |
| ildikov | csatari: I need to check on the room availability | 16:19 |
| csatari | okay | 16:19 |
| ildikov | csatari: but we can try with that | 16:20 |
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| annegentle | sorry I'm late o/ | 16:20 |
| csatari | It would be optimal in a sense, that it does not takes other students time. | 16:20 |
| ildikov | ok, I'll add 45-60 minutes for this one and we will see whether we need more Monday morning | 16:20 |
| mrmartin | hi anne | 16:20 |
| csatari | If we are okay to go there half an hour elarlier. | 16:21 |
| kmARC | I am | 16:21 |
| ildikov | annegentle: np, thanks for joining! :) | 16:21 |
| ildikov | kmARC: cool, tnx! | 16:21 |
| ildikov | let's keep this as an option | 16:21 |
| csatari | I am also, however I do not know if I will be able to debug anything :) | 16:21 |
| ildikov | csatari: more eyes are always good | 16:22 |
| ildikov | :) | 16:22 |
| csatari | Eyes I have. | 16:22 |
| ildikov | kmARC: do you need any help for the env? | 16:22 |
| kmARC | Nothing I can think of | 16:23 |
| ildikov | kmARC: cool | 16:23 |
| ildikov | is there anything else for the dev env we should talk about here? | 16:23 |
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| ildikov | details about it can be found here: #link https://github.com/kmARC/openstack-training-virtual-environment/ | 16:24 |
| ildikov | please spend a few minutes on looking into what we offer to the students | 16:24 |
| vkmc | <kmARC> 2) there is a network setup which is needed to be performed if one uses the prebuilt ova file, I need to document that <- ova? | 16:25 |
| ildikov | kmARC was so nice to prepare it, if you have any questions please ping him | 16:25 |
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| vkmc | are we using virtualbox? | 16:25 |
| kmARC | vkmc, just please glance trough the linked github page, everything is written down there | 16:25 |
| vkmc | k k | 16:25 |
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| ildikov | yeap, it includes documentation too! :) | 16:26 |
| ildikov | when we get through the more general topics on Sunday we will get into the tools and how to contribute parts on Monday | 16:27 |
| ildikov | for the afternoon the plan is to have a few deep dive blocks, we plan to run them in parallel | 16:27 |
| ildikov | I need to check whether we have students confirmed for each block | 16:27 |
| ildikov | plans are code, documentation and working groups deep dive | 16:28 |
| berendt | for documentation, i will prepare some slides while traveling to Barcelona (on Saturday) | 16:28 |
| ildikov | we have a few ideas for the code deep dive part, patch is in WIP, but up for review: #link ttps://review.openstack.org/388221 | 16:29 |
| ildikov | berendt: great, thank you! | 16:29 |
| ildikov | for the working group part I contacted the working group chairs to have a round table discussion with students, who are interested in that area | 16:30 |
| berendt | #link https://review.openstack.org/388221 | 16:30 |
| ildikov | berendt: tnx! | 16:30 |
| csatari | kmARC: In the documentation either you should mention, that the 10GB disk space is needed on the C:/ drive on windows or you should tell me what to do with VirtualBox to use my other drive ;) | 16:30 |
| ildikov | to point behind these plans that not everyone is necessarily a code contributor | 16:30 |
| ildikov | see activities around AUC | 16:30 |
| ildikov | and we plan to have a closing exercise at the end, which supersedes the Lego exercise this time | 16:31 |
| csatari | And now with the missing h #link https://review.openstack.org/388221 | 16:31 |
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| kmARC | csatari, please feel free to contribure to the git project. I don't have access to any Windows machine thus cannot test a possible solution | 16:31 |
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| berendt | NO lego..? :( | 16:31 |
| csatari | kmARC> Okay. I will. | 16:32 |
| ildikov | it would be great if we could have the "WG students" interacting with the groups of "coding students" while practicing to use the tools we have in OpenStack | 16:32 |
| ildikov | berendt: nor time, neither Lego this time :( | 16:32 |
| ildikov | the closing exercise idea is currently here, not fully outlined yet: #link https://review.openstack.org/386728 | 16:33 |
| ildikov | please comment on it if you have further views on how to achieve group collaboration and add one more hands-on block at the end of the training | 16:34 |
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| ildikov | this is roughly the plan for the one and a half days | 16:34 |
| ildikov | I would like to ask at this point that who's interested in presenting any of the lecture sections from the agenda? | 16:35 |
| kmARC | !!!!MEEEEE!!!! | 16:35 |
| openstack | kmARC: Error: "!!!MEEEEE!!!!" is not a valid command. | 16:35 |
| berendt | lol | 16:36 |
| kmARC | me | 16:36 |
| ildikov | I remember vkmc was interested too | 16:36 |
| ildikov | kmARC: lol :) | 16:36 |
| vkmc | o/ | 16:36 |
| vkmc | I am | 16:36 |
| ildikov | so again the therpad with the planned agenda: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-university-improvements | 16:36 |
| uehtesham90__ | hello, this is not open stack related but i was hoping someone can point me in the right direction. we have a webservice running using eventlet.wsgi and within one of our restful apis we want to run some logic using multiprocessing. but when i tried to run the webservice api that contains the multiprocessing module i get the following error: | 16:36 |
| uehtesham90__ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/T8Xhjik1/ | 16:37 |
| uehtesham90__ | has anyone ever come across such an issue before? or is there a irc channel that i can join where someone can help me with this kind of issue? | 16:37 |
| ildikov | those who are interested in presenting could you please add your name to the block you would like to pick? | 16:37 |
| berendt | uehtesham90__ i think #openstack could be the right channel for you | 16:37 |
| csatari | ildikov> I'm happy to present Official OpenStack projects if there will be someone to answer the hard questions. | 16:37 |
| csatari | :) | 16:37 |
| ildikov | kmARC: vkmc ^^ | 16:38 |
| berendt | uehtesham90__ we are running a meeting here at the moment | 16:38 |
| uehtesham90__ | berendt: ok thank you. ill ask there | 16:38 |
| ildikov | csatari: cool, add your name to that one please | 16:38 |
| ildikov | csatari: also we can catch up before the training to ensure you're comfortable with the content | 16:38 |
| ildikov | also does anyone has any comments on the current order of items in the agenda? | 16:39 |
| mrmartin | when will we meet on Sunday? | 16:39 |
| kmARC | ildikov, you mean write it in the etherpad? | 16:39 |
| csatari | ildikov> okay | 16:39 |
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| ildikov | the training starts at 1pm, so we can meet around 11am or 11:30am the latest | 16:39 |
| mrmartin | ok. | 16:39 |
| ildikov | I think the conference centre is next to shopping mall, so I would guess we can get some lunch there | 16:40 |
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| * kmARC realized that sunday is just a half day (wtf) | 16:40 | |
| ildikov | those who can attend on Sunday, do you have any preference regarding the time to meet? | 16:40 |
| ildikov | kmARC: yeap, it is | 16:40 |
| berendt | shopping malls are normally closed on sundays | 16:41 |
| ildikov | berendt: hmm, not good news | 16:41 |
| ildikov | berendt: I'll check what else is around | 16:41 |
| berendt | at least in Germany they do close on Sunday, not 100% sure how it is in Spain | 16:42 |
| ildikov | I'll add a time and meeting spot to the etherpad and also send out and we can then figure out where to go | 16:42 |
| kmARC | Spain? Then it's not even open until like 9PM :-D | 16:42 |
| csatari | ildikov> 11 is OK for me. We can check the material then. | 16:42 |
| ildikov | berendt: they're now open in Hungary, I haven't check Spain yet, but will do! | 16:42 |
| ildikov | csatari: ok, cool! | 16:43 |
| berendt | that's cool | 16:43 |
| ildikov | we might meet in front of the Hilton and then figure out | 16:43 |
| csatari | ok | 16:44 |
| ildikov | back to the training a bit | 16:44 |
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| ildikov | the concept of this one is more to let people figure out where they find info and how to communicate | 16:44 |
| ildikov | they can practice communication within the groups and between the groups too | 16:45 |
| ildikov | it is also a target not to have longer blocks than 45 minutes | 16:46 |
| ildikov | to ensure that people can concentrate and we give them shorter/longer breaks after which they can go back and learn smth new | 16:46 |
| ildikov | so those of you who're presenting please keep this in mind | 16:46 |
| ianychoi | Question: when will students start to use IRC during upstream training? They all may have prepared IRC client installation? | 16:47 |
| ildikov | those of you who're not on stage please circulate within the room and help those groups/students who need it | 16:47 |
| ianychoi | It would a sad news: I tested max. connection for web freenode and it was 5: http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/intro-introduction.html#6 | 16:48 |
| ildikov | ianychoi: the full env contains a client, until that point they can either use webchat or if they have already their own than that one | 16:48 |
| ildikov | the idea was to point them to the channel as early as possible | 16:48 |
| ildikov | to give a chance to communicate to those too, who're not comfortable with speaking up | 16:48 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, yep what I want to share is that web freenode max connection is just five.. | 16:49 |
| kmARC | yeah, worst case we ask them to immediately boot up the vm, since then in like 2 minutes they are in this channel | 16:49 |
| kmARC | (everythong configured) | 16:49 |
| ianychoi | More than 5 connection in one place (upstream training room) would not be supported using web irc | 16:49 |
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| berendt | i think it is not a big deal to install an IRC client..? | 16:49 |
| ildikov | ah, good point | 16:49 |
| mrmartin | irc client and nickserv registration | 16:50 |
| berendt | mrmartin you do not need to register your nick, | 16:50 |
| ildikov | then we might move starting the VM to an earlier point | 16:50 |
| ianychoi | berendt, I think so. Encouraging students to follow http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/irc.html would be nice | 16:50 |
| mrmartin | berendt but it is better to do it | 16:51 |
| ianychoi | #link http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/irc.html | 16:51 |
| ianychoi | It explains all the things including nick registration :) | 16:51 |
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| ildikov | ianychoi: mrmartin: they can get it as homework to do it :) | 16:52 |
| ianychoi | Also, hexchat is compatible with Windows environment (I am using it now!) | 16:52 |
| ildikov | if we would run out of time, which we most probably will | 16:52 |
| ianychoi | ildikov, yep hope that all students have completed homework | 16:52 |
| ildikov | as we have material to point people to, I'm not worried if we cannot complete everything during the training | 16:53 |
| ianychoi | (But in reality, some students may not have finished homework with various reasons...) | 16:53 |
| ildikov | it is also important that we should share mostly that info especially in deeper details that they will need now in order to be able to start | 16:53 |
| ildikov | if they continue with OpenStack the rest they will learn as they go | 16:54 |
| ianychoi | +1 | 16:54 |
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| ianychoi | Agree :) | 16:54 |
| ildikov | we need to teach them to find info and solve problems by themselves and also to ask for help when they can't | 16:54 |
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| berendt | yes i think this is the most important point | 16:55 |
| ildikov | yeap and it's quite tough as well | 16:55 |
| ildikov | but we will collect feedback during and after the training, so hopefully we will improve too as we go :) | 16:56 |
| ildikov | please check the exercises in the slides and reach out if you don't get what the task is exactly or what's the purpose behind it | 16:57 |
| ildikov | we're lacking some presenter notes, hopefully we will catch up on that for the next training | 16:58 |
| ildikov | does any of you have any questions? | 16:58 |
| vkmc | yes | 16:58 |
| ildikov | vkmc: shoot :) | 16:58 |
| vkmc | usually in previously upstream trainings we encouraged them to look easy bugs to solve and to work on those | 16:58 |
| vkmc | are we doing the same this time? | 16:59 |
| ildikov | vkmc: no | 16:59 |
| vkmc | all right | 16:59 |
| ildikov | we will advertise them the mentoring program during the training | 16:59 |
| vkmc | great | 16:59 |
| vkmc | :) | 16:59 |
| ildikov | please use the opportunity to that whenever/wherever you can! | 16:59 |
| vkmc | will do | 16:59 |
| ildikov | vkmc: tnx! I also meant everyone, I was sure you will :) | 17:00 |
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| ildikov | the low hanging fruit bug fixing activity fits way better with the mentoring program | 17:00 |
| ildikov | so we try to shoot short term success for the training | 17:00 |
| ildikov | like learn how to run the tests locally, what to do if a test fails, etc. | 17:01 |
| ildikov | so things that can be completed during the training | 17:01 |
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| ianychoi | berendt, I have a question on your docs session (may be on Monday?) Would you also cover tox execution to check doc build? | 17:02 |
| berendt | ianychoi yes | 17:02 |
| ianychoi | berendt, oh nice. I have thought it would be so helpful to students but training-guides team has not updated slides yet | 17:02 |
| berendt | i want to give a short overview where to find our repos, the rendered docs, .. and will continue with the contributor guide and the common workflow | 17:02 |
| berendt | ianychoi i will prepare the docs deep dive on Saturday | 17:03 |
| ianychoi | berendt, good! thank you :) | 17:03 |
| berendt | ianychoi drop me a mail when you want to see further topics | 17:03 |
| ildikov | hopefully I'll have +2 rights by Saturday, so we can merge the content when it's considered to be ready :) | 17:03 |
| ianychoi | berendt, yep :) | 17:04 |
| berendt | ianychoi if not i will +A myself ;) | 17:04 |
| ianychoi | berendt, I will also keep my eye on training-guides repo | 17:04 |
| ildikov | berendt: haha right, you have rights there too, cool! :) | 17:04 |
| mrmartin | I can help in the merge if required | 17:04 |
| ildikov | mrmartin: just not while you're driving please ;) | 17:04 |
| mrmartin | I promise | 17:05 |
| ildikov | cool! :) | 17:05 |
| berendt | mrmartin you will go to Barcelona by car? | 17:05 |
| mrmartin | hehe | 17:05 |
| mrmartin | with kmArc | 17:05 |
| ianychoi | Wow driving....! | 17:05 |
| mrmartin | 2000km from here | 17:05 |
| ianychoi | How long would it take? | 17:05 |
| berendt | road trip.. only for the young guys ;) | 17:06 |
| mrmartin | we are young guys | 17:06 |
| mrmartin | but it is not meeting topic | 17:06 |
| mrmartin | 20-24 hours maybe | 17:06 |
| ildikov | lol :) | 17:06 |
| ianychoi | lol! | 17:06 |
| csatari | ildikov> Malls are closed on Sundays. | 17:06 |
| ildikov | csatari: tnx for checking! | 17:06 |
| ianychoi | I had one experience to drive 1000km for two days.. wow | 17:07 |
| ildikov | csatari: I'll look around for options | 17:07 |
| ildikov | any further questions? | 17:08 |
| ildikov | do you need any further details on any parts? | 17:08 |
| vkmc | nothing else from me :) | 17:09 |
| ildikov | cool :) | 17:10 |
| vkmc | I'll check the material for the coding contributions and tooling parts | 17:10 |
| ianychoi | nope from me. Thank you for all! Hope to make successful upstream training, although I will still be in Korea.. (I will stay in only Friday unfortunately) | 17:10 |
| ildikov | those of you who can make it on Sunday, let's meet at 11am in front of the Hilton | 17:10 |
| vkmc | etherpad reads updated, but I'll check anyways | 17:10 |
| ildikov | vkmc: you can check the web page and the open reviews | 17:11 |
| vkmc | ildikov, k, cool | 17:11 |
| ildikov | #link http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/ | 17:11 |
| ildikov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides | 17:11 |
| ildikov | we have only a few open reviews at this point | 17:11 |
| berendt | i have to leave, have a safe trip to Barcelona and see you all next week | 17:11 |
| vkmc | great | 17:12 |
| ildikov | berendt: thanks! safe travels! | 17:12 |
| xyang | ildikov: for those who will only be there on Monday, we'll just show up in the training room at 9:00am or before that? | 17:12 |
| vkmc | didn't know about the content for upstream training being tracked there... sorry for that | 17:12 |
| vkmc | safe travels everyone, looking forward to meet you in BCN | 17:12 |
| ildikov | xyang: we plan to try to get there around 8:30am if anyone has issues with their VM/environment | 17:13 |
| xyang | ok, thanks | 17:13 |
| ildikov | xyang: also if you would like to catch up before the training we can agree on meeting earlier anyway | 17:14 |
| xyang | ildikov: sure, I'll let you know after I go thru the training materials | 17:14 |
| ildikov | xyang: I'll surely be around | 17:14 |
| ildikov | xyang: great, thank you | 17:14 |
| xyang | ildikov: thanks | 17:15 |
| ildikov | xyang: feel free to ping me any time if you have any questions | 17:15 |
| xyang | ildikov: will do | 17:15 |
| ildikov | xyang: also if you have ideas for the code deep dive part for instance please share :) | 17:15 |
| xyang | ildikov: sure | 17:15 |
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| ildikov | great, tnx! | 17:16 |
| ildikov | ok, if there are no more questions for today then I think we can close this meeting | 17:16 |
| ildikov | please update the etherpad with adding your names to the topics you would like to present | 17:17 |
| vkmc | +1 | 17:17 |
| ildikov | if any | 17:17 |
| vkmc | thanks everybody | 17:17 |
| xyang | thanks | 17:17 |
| ildikov | and big thanks to everyone for helping out!!! | 17:17 |
| ildikov | safe travels and see you in Barcelona! | 17:17 |
| mrmartin | thnx | 17:17 |
| mrmartin | endmeeting? | 17:18 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 17:18 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 19 17:18:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upstream_training_prep/2016/upstream_training_prep.2016-10-19-16.01.html | 17:18 |
| mrmartin | :) | 17:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upstream_training_prep/2016/upstream_training_prep.2016-10-19-16.01.txt | 17:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/upstream_training_prep/2016/upstream_training_prep.2016-10-19-16.01.log.html | 17:18 |
| ildikov | :) | 17:18 |
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