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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update rabbitmq_package_url https://review.openstack.org/167681 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update rabbitmq_package_url https://review.openstack.org/167724 | 10:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fixing defcore test list generation https://review.openstack.org/167329 | 10:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: [WIP] Heat config changes for kilo https://review.openstack.org/167947 | 11:03 |
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| cloudnull | Morning | 13:18 |
| mattt | cloudnull: i just -2'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166986/ as i'd like to get someone else to confirm that what i'm seeing is localised | 13:37 |
| mattt | i'll remove it as soon as they do | 13:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Darren Birkett proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs: Add master-kilofication specification https://review.openstack.org/166865 | 13:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs: Add master-kilofication specification https://review.openstack.org/166865 | 13:49 |
| sigmavirus24 | mancdaz: please keep "Implements blueprint: master-kilofication" in the commit message for blueprint automagic book keeping | 13:49 |
| cloudnull | mattt are you seeing anything in the neutron logs that indicate there is a problem ? | 13:49 |
| mattt | cloudnull: i'm just about to go down the rabbit hole now | 13:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | mattt: true, it could be rabbitmq | 13:50 |
| sigmavirus24 | =P | 13:50 |
| cloudnull | so this went in "https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/commit/11bdeec46e1586fdbb4222202ecfafaa7abb8695" | 13:52 |
| cloudnull | which changes the metadata URL for neutron. | 13:52 |
| cloudnull | check to see if removing that change makes all the things moar happy :) | 13:52 |
| cloudnull | im re-kicking now. | 13:52 |
| cloudnull | from master and will know more soon. | 13:53 |
| mancdaz | sigmavirus24 sure, missed that you'd changed it in an earlier patchset | 13:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | no worries mancdaz | 13:53 |
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| * sigmavirus24 merged master and is also rekicking | 13:53 | |
| cloudnull | test all the things ! | 13:53 |
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| palendae | sigmavirus24: Doh, you're right on the -i not working with /etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_inventory.json. | 14:41 |
| sigmavirus24 | palendae: lol no worries | 14:41 |
| palendae | forgot ansible wants JSON some places, and YAML others | 14:41 |
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| sigmavirus24 | palendae: and INI in yet others | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | you'r welcome | 14:47 |
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| palendae | So no spec meeting today? | 15:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | no regular meeting? | 15:59 |
| cloudnull | meeting time - cloudnull, mattt, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, Sam-I-Am, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, mancdaz, dolphm, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek | 16:01 |
| hughsaunders | hey | 16:01 |
| dstanek | o/ | 16:01 |
| palendae | -> #openstack-meeting-4 | 16:02 |
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| cloudnull | alextricity: can you join #openstack-meeting-4 | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | git-harry proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updates cinder service to kilo https://review.openstack.org/168066 | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hugh Saunders proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs: Manage resolv.conf https://review.openstack.org/168074 | 16:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Hugh Saunders proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs: Manage resolv.conf https://review.openstack.org/168074 | 16:59 |
| cloudnull | so andymccr leaving master in a 100% broken state while we fix everything seems like a backwards way of approaching the problem. | 17:04 |
| cloudnull | personally i feel like we get it minimally functional and then tune. | 17:04 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: that patch is not managebale/reviewable in a sensible way though | 17:05 |
| andymccr | there has to be a better way to do this incrementally | 17:05 |
| andymccr | rather than a massive "here it is!" patch | 17:05 |
| cloudnull | is it really too large? | 17:05 |
| andymccr | 500 lines seems quite large | 17:06 |
| andymccr | and they are all separate things really | 17:06 |
| cloudnull | they are all focused on getting kilo functional. | 17:06 |
| cloudnull | and when it was written we have fatal_deprecations enabled. | 17:07 |
| andymccr | i mean the fact that it closes like 8 bugs suggests it could be split up | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | as a gate test. | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: [WIP] Heat config changes for kilo https://review.openstack.org/167947 | 17:07 |
| andymccr | could/should | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | the 8 bugs it closes are all kilo and listed in the spec. | 17:07 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: i understand its related to getting kilo to work | 17:07 |
| andymccr | but that in itself can be split up | 17:08 |
| andymccr | it doesnt seem like a healthy approach to munge together a whole bunch in the name of some over-arching aim. | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | how? | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | how does juno neutron talk to kilo nova? | 17:08 |
| andymccr | thats not what im suggesting, im suggesting that there needs to be a better way to do this incrementally, i would be in favour of having an "empty" gate and incrementally adding tests to the new kilo master while we focus on fixing it up for that | 17:09 |
| andymccr | or any other method that works and means we can incrementally work towards getting kilo added in | 17:09 |
| cloudnull | that sounds great. but how? | 17:10 |
| cloudnull | without breaking everything to do it. | 17:11 |
| andymccr | what are we breaking? | 17:11 |
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| andymccr | we have gates based on branches afaik. or at least those were added in multinode | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | you cant just change the release version | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | ie policy changes | 17:11 |
| andymccr | so you change, things dont work while you move towards making it work incrementally | 17:11 |
| cloudnull | config changes. | 17:11 |
| andymccr | then it works | 17:12 |
| cloudnull | which means you've broken everything while making it work. | 17:12 |
| cloudnull | ie first change disable gating, second move all the sha's, third go find everything thats broken... | 17:12 |
| andymccr | and then it works and the end result is exactly the same, except you have a much nicer git history that is actually useful and consists of patches that were much better reviewed (cos they're simpler) | 17:12 |
| cloudnull | so can you start that work today ? | 17:14 |
| cloudnull | and ill go abandon my change ? | 17:15 |
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| andymccr | so i should do the re-work because i disagree with the approach? | 17:15 |
| cloudnull | thats not what im saying . | 17:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Nolan Brubaker proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Move SYMLINK_DIR declaration to bootstrap-aio.sh https://review.openstack.org/167316 | 17:16 |
| cloudnull | what i am saying is that i wont do it all again. if we are going to collaborate on the changes and do it incrementally then someone needs to start it. | 17:16 |
| cloudnull | and do it in the manor you described then you should start it. | 17:17 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: its a general "how should the project be moving in terms of commits" etc. discussion | 17:17 |
| andymccr | e.g. the contributing guidelines kinda rule out these sorts of patches | 17:18 |
| andymccr | i understand the argument of "but it works" | 17:18 |
| andymccr | and thats fair, it does im sure | 17:18 |
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| andymccr | i dont think its about collaboration so much, if you had done all the patches but incrementally i wouldnt see any problem | 17:18 |
| cloudnull | the contributing guidelines specify that the changes specify that the change should be focused. and if too large or overly complex then it should be broken up. i'd argue that this is focused and not too overly complex. | 17:19 |
| andymccr | or in a method that allowed it to be incremental. | 17:19 |
| andymccr | if you read those bugs in isolation they are not related. | 17:19 |
| andymccr | except that they have to be changed for kilo to work | 17:19 |
| cloudnull | ^ so they are all related because on general openstack service interdependencies. | 17:20 |
| cloudnull | one will not work without the other. | 17:20 |
| andymccr | well since nobody else seems bothered i guess im the only one who fundamentally disagrees with the approach | 17:20 |
| hughsaunders | I would go the other way - leave tests as they are, make the patch bigger so master consistently passes scenario tests | 17:20 |
| palendae | hughsaunders: So incrementally expand 1 patch? | 17:21 |
| cloudnull | hughsaunders kilo cant pass the scenario test yet. at least not all of them . | 17:21 |
| hughsaunders | so we keep fixing it till it does? | 17:22 |
| palendae | andymccr: I totally agree with what you're saying, but I don't know if I have a good solution, since like cloudnull says, so much of this is interdependent | 17:22 |
| andymccr | we're not doing full tests on kilo anyway? | 17:22 |
| palendae | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166986/9/playbooks/roles/os_tempest/templates/openstack_tempest_gate.sh.j2 | 17:22 |
| cloudnull | andymccr we're doing the multi-node api tests on kilo | 17:22 |
| andymccr | so we're going to have to incrementally make it better to pass the scenario tests? | 17:23 |
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| cloudnull | scenarios broken in tempest, cinder, neutron. | 17:23 |
| cloudnull | andymccr the increment will likely come when the RC's start releasing. | 17:24 |
| hughsaunders | [17:08:45] <cloudnull>how does juno neutron talk to kilo nova? <--- using a stable, versioned API? | 17:26 |
| palendae | hughsaunders: In openstack? | 17:27 |
| palendae | >.> | 17:27 |
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| hughsaunders | cloudnull: apart from python deps, does that actually work? | 17:27 |
| cloudnull | it has not in the past. i didn't bother testing it this go around . | 17:27 |
| cloudnull | so what are we doing? I'm open both ways. a decision needs to be made now and someone else will need to start the work if I abandon the patch. | 17:34 |
| stevelle | Personally I don't want to disable all gating and then have a bunch of ambiguity about how broken master is while we fix things up. that feels old-school in a bad way. | 17:35 |
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| palendae | I'd like to see an incremental approach, because I don't know what it looks like, personally | 17:36 |
| stevelle | I found this patch to be at the boundary of what was digestable for a review, but the repo is factored well enough that I could make sense of it | 17:37 |
| palendae | that's more my inexperience with deploying openstack between versions, though | 17:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Hugh Saunders proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: [WIP] Testing Keystone Juno SHA bump https://review.openstack.org/168091 | 17:37 |
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| palendae | There we go :) | 17:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudarshan Acharya proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Managing policy file with default file and user variables. https://review.openstack.org/168104 | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Sudarshan Acharya proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Managing policy file with default file and user variables. https://review.openstack.org/168104 | 18:53 |
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| palendae | Reviews appreciated (though admittedly a small fix) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167316/3 | 19:21 |
| cloudnull | hughsaunders andymccr : http://logs.openstack.org/91/168091/1/check/os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-check-commit/3e1e186/console.html#_2015-03-26_19_27_06_603 | 19:34 |
| cloudnull | ^ Python DEP issues installing keystone. | 19:34 |
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| palendae | Anything shared is going to run into conflcits the way the repo builder works, afaik | 19:37 |
| cloudnull | yes. it is. | 19:39 |
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| cloudnull | the requirements should be close. the repo builder attempts to resolve dependencies based on all available requirements which results in a coherent set. | 19:40 |
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| cloudnull | so if we turn off gating, update them all, and iterate through the requirements we can do what andymccr has described. | 19:41 |
| cloudnull | sorry, iterate through the os_* projects | 19:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Remove logstash multiline filter and change default number of workers https://review.openstack.org/166758 | 20:35 |
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| mancdaz | anyone able to re-review. All suggestions have been addressed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166865/ | 20:56 |
| palendae | mancdaz: Done | 20:57 |
| mancdaz | palendae thank you kindly | 20:58 |
| mattt | mancdaz: thanking you kindly | 21:02 |
| mancdaz | mattt please do the needful | 21:02 |
| palendae | Isn't it past bed time there? | 21:03 |
| mattt | mancdaz: doing the needful | 21:03 |
| mancdaz | mattt thanking you kindly | 21:03 |
| mattt | palendae: i am about ready to pass out face first | 21:03 |
| mancdaz | palendae isn't it past pub time there? | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sudarshan Acharya proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Managing policy file with default file and user variables. https://review.openstack.org/168104 | 21:11 |
| palendae | mancdaz: It is and I'm going :) | 21:15 |
| mancdaz | palendae good work! | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Removed lxc templates that are no longer used https://review.openstack.org/168170 | 22:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Removed lxc templates that are no longer used (juno) https://review.openstack.org/168172 | 22:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Removed lxc templates that are no longer used (icehouse) https://review.openstack.org/168174 | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add ctrl-alt-del button to spice console https://review.openstack.org/165541 | 22:39 |
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