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| mrstanwell | sure, no problem. so in principle ipv6 tenants should work then? if so, I'll keep plugging away at making it work in actuality... ;-) | 00:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add ebtables to neutron agent configuration https://review.openstack.org/217103 | 01:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Bjoern Teipel proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Implementing the missing bits to deploy the LBAAS agent into the neutron_agents container group. https://review.openstack.org/220365 | 01:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Adds the config_template to ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/217030 | 02:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Create config_template plugin https://review.openstack.org/220212 | 02:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Compartmentalizing RabbitMQ https://review.openstack.org/202822 | 02:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Additional retries for ssh wait check https://review.openstack.org/219638 | 02:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Adds the ability to provide user certificates to HAProxy https://review.openstack.org/215525 | 02:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated MariaDB to the new release version (10.0) https://review.openstack.org/178259 | 02:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated MariaDB to the new release version (10.0) https://review.openstack.org/178259 | 02:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Implement /usr/bin/env as the shebang in all bash scripts https://review.openstack.org/215906 | 02:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Allow Horizon setup with external SSL termination https://review.openstack.org/214647 | 02:30 |
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| evrardjp | good morning | 07:36 |
| evrardjp | too bad mrstanwell left | 07:36 |
| evrardjp | IPv6 tenant networks are a pain :p | 07:36 |
| evrardjp | I don't know which kind of prefix delegation he uses, but if he doesn't that's gonna hit him hard | 07:37 |
| evrardjp | and using an IPv6 provider network puts him in front of the arp spoofing bug until liberty is released | 07:37 |
| evrardjp | IIRC | 07:37 |
| evrardjp | hope he'll read that at some point | 07:38 |
| evrardjp | arbrandes: you shouldn't put osd on your compute, it's not only about the load it can bring, but also there are kvm libvirt ceph race conditions that makes it a nightmare | 07:40 |
| evrardjp | just my experience from a few monthes ago | 07:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update kilo for new dev work - 3 Sep 2015 https://review.openstack.org/220206 | 07:51 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: I've edited this page: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/role-haproxy-v2 | 07:58 |
| evrardjp | Because I'd like to take a more pragmatic approach, more step by step | 07:59 |
| evrardjp | I've overwritten the whiteboard, is that ok? | 07:59 |
| evrardjp | Or will it be automatically overwritten? | 07:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update kilo for new dev work - 4 Sep 2015 https://review.openstack.org/220206 | 08:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set client versions deployed to use global requirements https://review.openstack.org/220050 | 08:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Ensure rsync restarts fully during swift setup https://review.openstack.org/220261 | 08:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add sorting_method to swift proxy config as needed https://review.openstack.org/220260 | 08:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Implement Neutron LBAAS using haproxy https://review.openstack.org/220365 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Implement Neutron LBAAS using haproxy https://review.openstack.org/220365 | 09:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Additional retries for ssh wait check https://review.openstack.org/220430 | 09:11 |
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| odyssey4me | mancdaz if you could revisit and finalise this, it'd be great! https://review.openstack.org/209404 | 09:13 |
| mancdaz | odyssey4me gah yeah I was gonna talk to the dbas about that | 09:13 |
| mancdaz | I will pick that back up | 09:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Implement /usr/bin/env as the shebang in all bash scripts https://review.openstack.org/215906 | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Adds the config_template to ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/217030 | 09:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set client versions deployed to use global requirements https://review.openstack.org/220049 | 09:46 |
| odyssey4me | mattt hughsaunders andymccr considering the discussion about cinder az's yesterday, evrardjp posted a doc patch: https://review.openstack.org/219751 | 09:52 |
| odyssey4me | I find myself a little torn about this - the changes are good and more up to date, but the example file we provide duplicates a lot of the info changed, and the changes aren't there... but the example file only explains the one file involved... | 09:53 |
| evrardjp | it needs a good english polish | 09:53 |
| odyssey4me | I really think this info should be in one place, not in two places. | 09:53 |
| evrardjp | I think the best place is doc | 09:54 |
| evrardjp | not because I edited there, just because it makes more sense | 09:55 |
| evrardjp | you read the manual... ofc it's handy to have an example file, but at the end, this file is going to be huge | 09:55 |
| evrardjp | and, IIRC, at some point you thought to have -in the doc- some kind of example configurations | 09:56 |
| evrardjp | this could be a good spot to extract the relevant part of the .example files | 09:56 |
| evrardjp | just my 2 cents | 09:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hugh Saunders proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Remove double register in swift handlers https://review.openstack.org/220449 | 10:33 |
| hughsaunders | odyssey4me: do you want bugs for stuff like this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220449/1 | 10:34 |
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| hughsaunders | odyssey4me: export UBUNTU_REPO="${UBUNTU_REPO}" ? | 10:55 |
| hughsaunders | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218611/9/scripts/gate-check-commit.sh,cm | 10:56 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp yeah, I agree - especially for rst files... I'd rather not have .example files and move everything to the docs files | 11:39 |
| evrardjp | about this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/role-haproxy-v2 I've edited the whiteboard part, will it be overwritten at some point automatically ? | 11:39 |
| odyssey4me | hughsaunders I think it's fair to say that https://review.openstack.org/220449 could have been included in https://review.openstack.org/217341 and can therefore use the same bug - I just ask that you backport it as soon as it's merged. | 11:43 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp the reason for the spec is to do what you've done in the whiteboard - plan the work involved in the blueprint | 11:44 |
| odyssey4me | I'd suggest revisiting your spec with the stuff you're thinking and add those as work items. | 11:44 |
| hughsaunders | odyssey4me: yeah, I only noticed because I Was reviewing the other patch | 11:44 |
| evrardjp | I dropped the spec because I thought it was too many small details for such small blueprints/reviews | 11:45 |
| evrardjp | I'll recreate one then | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set the Ubuntu mirror used based on the environment https://review.openstack.org/218611 | 11:48 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp the spec doesn't look dropped to me :) https://review.openstack.org/214089 | 12:01 |
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| evrardjp | then, I'm in oops situation. I thought I dropped something on gerrit this morning >< | 12:02 |
| evrardjp | that's why I should consume cofee | 12:03 |
| evrardjp | coffee* | 12:03 |
| evrardjp | Ok I found it | 12:04 |
| evrardjp | other question, is the spec really needed? It's really a small change | 12:04 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp it's multiple work items in order to produce a new feature... it just so happens that the features so far already had wishlist bugs from before we started using blueprints/specs | 12:08 |
| odyssey4me | so yes, I think a spec would be better to tie the items together properly instead of abusing the wishlist bugs | 12:08 |
| odyssey4me | also, I think you're missing some work items - eg: review the backend configurations (eg: galera) for potential improvements | 12:09 |
| evrardjp | Ok I thought wishlist bugs was intended and a good thing, because it helped track the changes accross branches | 12:09 |
| odyssey4me | also I'm still not seeing the pluggable configuration we discussed | 12:09 |
| odyssey4me | typically the features will go into master, then all the commits will get backported in one go | 12:10 |
| evrardjp | ok | 12:10 |
| evrardjp | so, to track something, a spec and the blueprints should be enough | 12:11 |
| odyssey4me | I see that there are two keepalived implementations which were independently developed: https://review.openstack.org/217517 and https://review.openstack.org/218818 | 12:11 |
| evrardjp | spec -> blueprints, and blueprints points to review | 12:11 |
| odyssey4me | yup | 12:11 |
| odyssey4me | zuul automatically updates the whiteboard to track related reviews | 12:11 |
| evrardjp | yup, I didn't got the chance to talk to sshen | 12:11 |
| odyssey4me | maybe you can email him? I suspect that he's in an entirely different time zone or something | 12:12 |
| odyssey4me | try and get hold of him to figure out a plan - one option could be that you add him as a co-author on your review and ask him to review it | 12:12 |
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| odyssey4me | if you can't get hold of him, then add the item to the thu agenda so that we can discuss and choose - we can't let it sit in a stalemate due to a lack of availability | 12:13 |
| odyssey4me | your review is more thorough, but his was there first and he did assign the wishlist bug to himself :) | 12:14 |
| evrardjp | how do you add someone as co-author on review? I see add someone as reviewer | 12:14 |
| evrardjp | I'll email him and use launchpad to manage work | 12:15 |
| mgariepy | good morning everyone | 12:15 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp see the commit msg in https://review.openstack.org/220365 | 12:16 |
| evrardjp | ok | 12:16 |
| evrardjp | good morning mgariepy | 12:20 |
| mgariepy | how are you guys doing ? | 12:21 |
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| evrardjp | fine and you? | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | "it's friday" | 12:28 |
| mgariepy | yay ! | 12:28 |
| mgariepy | i'm doing fine | 12:28 |
| mgariepy | 3 day weekend is coming :D | 12:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix keystone shibboleth template to detect ssl usage correctly https://review.openstack.org/220480 | 12:30 |
| evrardjp | Labour Day mgariepy, nice! | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update master for liberty-3 testing https://review.openstack.org/220504 | 13:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add variable for cirros url https://review.openstack.org/217310 | 13:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: More complete explanation of availability zones https://review.openstack.org/219751 | 13:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update kilo for new dev work - 4 Sep 2015 https://review.openstack.org/220206 | 13:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add sorting_method to swift proxy config as needed https://review.openstack.org/220260 | 13:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Ensure rsync restarts fully during swift setup https://review.openstack.org/220261 | 13:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Implement /usr/bin/env as the shebang in all bash scripts https://review.openstack.org/215906 | 13:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Additional retries for ssh wait check https://review.openstack.org/220430 | 13:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Disable scatter-gather offload on host bridges https://review.openstack.org/219292 | 13:57 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24_awa ping | 13:59 |
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| mgariepy | would you be interested in a patch for cinder-volumes to define host = whatever in case you use ceph backend ? | 14:08 |
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| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: pong | 14:08 |
| mgariepy | so image aren't tied to a specific cinder-volume server. | 14:09 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 :) do you mind if I revise https://review.openstack.org/206743 now that we have the liberty-3 sha update in flight? | 14:09 |
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| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 I've pretty much prepped the changes - I'll need you to verify that they're good, unless of course you want to do them yourself? | 14:13 |
| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: if you think it's worth having and people review it in a timely manner this time, go for it | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | I don't think it's worth it anymore | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment-specs: Add spec to change haproxy default behaviour https://review.openstack.org/214089 | 14:14 |
| sigmavirus24 | No one cares if glance is functional | 14:14 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 I smell burn-out. :/ | 14:15 |
| sigmavirus24 | odyssey4me: I smell upgrades | 14:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update glance_store configuration to use Keystone v3 https://review.openstack.org/206743 | 14:15 |
| odyssey4me | sigmavirus24 how does that look? ^ | 14:18 |
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| evrardjp | mgariepy: this looks interesting... how do you do that? I'm interested to know how it works, because I don't know cinder that well | 14:19 |
| evrardjp | maybe talking of these changes to git-harry and svg would be interesting | 14:19 |
| mgariepy | it's a ugly hack but you set the host = "whatever" in cinder.conf | 14:20 |
| evrardjp | of which component? cinder scheduler? | 14:20 |
| evrardjp | doesn't make sense for me right now | 14:20 |
| mgariepy | as long as all the cinder-volumes are having the same host they are all allowed to manage the volumes | 14:20 |
| odyssey4me | mgariepy evrardjp yes, that is a hack for better availability which works for some back-ends | 14:20 |
| mgariepy | cinder-volumes | 14:20 |
| odyssey4me | you just need to ensure that cinder-volume is only loaded on one host at a time, otherwise you'll have all sorts of issues | 14:21 |
| evrardjp | so that's coming back to what we've talked yesterday | 14:21 |
| svg | :-s | 14:21 |
| evrardjp | we need true HA | 14:21 |
| evrardjp | for cidner | 14:21 |
| evrardjp | cinder | 14:21 |
| svg | yes, cos HA is so enterprise | 14:22 |
| evrardjp | SLA is so enterprise >< | 14:22 |
| svg | so are csv and ftp | 14:22 |
| evrardjp | HA is just a way to not break it | 14:22 |
| hughsaunders | osad definitely needs ftp capability | 14:22 |
| mgariepy | Ha is just a way not to have answer call in the middle of the night ! :P | 14:23 |
| evrardjp | :D | 14:23 |
| evrardjp | mgariepy: +1 | 14:23 |
| svg | I was joking, but I find it hallucinant to notice how poor the openstack design seems to be in terms of Availability | 14:23 |
| palendae | People also tend to like no-downtime upgrades | 14:23 |
| evrardjp | it's far better than before svg ;) | 14:23 |
| evrardjp | in that term, cinder-volume is quite good | 14:24 |
| svg | I don't see how that's an excuse | 14:24 |
| evrardjp | you just multiply lvm machines, and you respect your sla, because just a few can see an issue ;) | 14:24 |
| evrardjp | when you're stuck with ceph/netapp and one cinder-volume it could be disastrous | 14:25 |
| evrardjp | (just my opinion) | 14:25 |
| svg | like when I filed that bug couple of moths agfo b/c nova and glance are not aware of rabbitmq being a redundant cluster | 14:25 |
| svg | that was in kilo | 14:25 |
| evrardjp | (note that I hate rabbitmq before I enter the conversation) | 14:26 |
| evrardjp | that's rabbit's fault! | 14:26 |
| evrardjp | ;) | 14:26 |
| evrardjp | svg: is it solved now? | 14:27 |
| svg | if you put a LB between them yes | 14:28 |
| mgariepy | odyssey4me, what is the issues you can have if you have multiple cinder-volumes loaded at the time ? | 14:28 |
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| odyssey4me | mgariepy it depends on the back-end involved | 14:37 |
| odyssey4me | some use locks on the file system where the cinder-volume service sits | 14:37 |
| odyssey4me | so when you fail over the service, the file locks aren't there - so a rebooting instance can't reconnect | 14:38 |
| odyssey4me | if you're using cinder-volume with lvm, then you pay for your sins :p | 14:38 |
| odyssey4me | so yes, it'd be great to see improvements in this area but it'll require thorough testing and will rely on something like keepalived to migrate the service properly | 14:39 |
| odyssey4me | also, I'm not sure how well openstack itself handles more than one server saying that it has the same name | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix Keystone URI/URL defaults https://review.openstack.org/205192 | 14:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix Keystone URI/URL defaults https://review.openstack.org/205192 | 14:45 |
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| evrardjp | odyssey4me: if you have more information/documentation, I can create a change to use keepalived for that. The keepalived role wouldn't even need to be modified :) | 14:51 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp it's been ages since I dug into that, so I unfortunately don't have any references to hand | 14:53 |
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| evrardjp | I'm off for today, so if you find something for monday, I may dig into it, although not sure my agenda will be ok with that ;) | 14:55 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp time for me to be off too :) | 14:56 |
| odyssey4me | this is a no work weekend :) | 14:56 |
| odyssey4me | hughsaunders I think it may be best for this to die a quiet death for kilo: https://review.openstack.org/217103 | 14:58 |
| odyssey4me | it may be revived in the future if need be, but upstream appears to be a long way from resolving all the issues around implementing the arp spoofing fixes. | 14:59 |
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| odyssey4me | we do have a bug tracking it | 14:59 |
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| odyssey4me | mercie | 14:59 |
| odyssey4me | svg something is broken in https://review.openstack.org/214647 - can you look into that next week? | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update tempest configuration https://review.openstack.org/220559 | 15:30 |
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| mrstanwell | evrardjp: thanks for the tip earlier re: arp spoofing. I'll watch out for that. fortunately, this isn't a real deployment, just me trying to figure out how things work. As for prefixes... I've got a /48, and so am handing out /64s to tenant networks. should be okay, eh? | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Major Hayden proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add profiling for Ansible tasks https://review.openstack.org/216849 | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Major Hayden proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add profiling for Ansible tasks https://review.openstack.org/216849 | 15:53 |
| mhayden | odyssey4me: first time mucking with gate job scripts there ^^ | 15:54 |
| mhayden | let me know if i'm off track | 15:54 |
| odyssey4me | mhayden +1 already :) | 15:55 |
| mhayden | whee! | 15:56 |
| mhayden | thakns for that | 15:56 |
| odyssey4me | will wait for gate pass before switching - my only other concern is carrying the plugin with a different license - I'd like to just verify that the BSD license is ok before upping the vote | 15:56 |
| odyssey4me | if you're able to provide a reference in the review (just a comment with the URL is fine) then that'll make it easier for all reviewers | 15:57 |
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| odyssey4me | by that I specifically mean a reference for the license in the file being ok to use within OpenStack projects | 15:57 |
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| palendae | odyssey4me: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ says that BSD/MIT is ok by my reading, which I linked to early on in the review | 16:48 |
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| svg | nice link, bookmarked | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Disable scatter-gather offload on host bridges https://review.openstack.org/219292 | 21:17 |
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