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openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Updated role using the Multi-Distro framework https://review.openstack.org/295615 | 04:07 |
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prometheanfire | cloudnull: go to bed | 04:10 |
prometheanfire | cloudnull: fix your commit message | 04:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates all repo SHAs to prepare for Mitaka release https://review.openstack.org/296799 | 04:27 |
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winggundamth | is OSA will release at the same day as mitaka release? | 04:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Updated role using the Multi-Distro framework https://review.openstack.org/295615 | 05:04 |
prometheanfire | winggundamth: I doubt it but should follow soon, I'm hoping it's same day | 05:07 |
winggundamth | let me know if you need help. I'm newbie but I'm going to join upstream university at Austin summit. hope I can do sth | 05:10 |
cloudnull | winggundamth: in the past we've done same day releases for stable however the first day is always super UnStable so its likely we will give it a couple of days to bake to catch 0 day bugs however odyssey4me would be a better person to ask. | 05:10 |
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* prometheanfire needs to look at the summit schedule | 05:12 | |
prometheanfire | WOOO >>> Jobs: 114 of 114 complete Load avg: 1.17, 4.14, 3.86 | 05:13 |
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pjm6 | Hi there :D | 09:38 |
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Bofu2U | Anything I should know before physically moving my entire openstack cluster? :P | 11:21 |
Bofu2U | I'm thinking along the lines of galera resetting, etc. | 11:21 |
Bofu2U | (full disconnect of all nodes, controllers, etc - then reconnect in another location. internal IP's will remain the same) | 11:21 |
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mhayden | mornin' | 11:49 |
Bofu2U | mornin | 11:55 |
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mhayden | is today a bank holiday in the uk? i never can remember :) | 12:45 |
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retreved | mhayden: https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays | 12:54 |
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pjm6 | hey, I have a doubt (about openstack in general) | 13:09 |
pjm6 | we have multiple datacenters (tenants) where users can create | 13:10 |
pjm6 | various virtual machines, right? | 13:10 |
pjm6 | By default that VMs (or instances in this case) are accessed by SSH (we inject the SSH key) | 13:10 |
pjm6 | but for accessing that VMs we must use floating IPs in order to access to the instances, right? | 13:10 |
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mhayden | retreved: haha, thanks | 13:28 |
mhayden | pjm6: well, that depends on how you configure your network | 13:28 |
mhayden | you can place a VM onto a network that is accessible without the need of floating IP addresses | 13:29 |
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mhayden | Apsu: looks like HPE shared their LBaaS v1->v2 migration script after all -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289595/ | 13:29 |
pjm6 | mhayden: that way I have an shared network, right? | 13:37 |
mhayden | pjm6: you could share an accessible network with multiple tenants if you wanted to avoid floating IP's, or in addition to floating IP's | 13:39 |
pjm6 | thanks mhayden, I can do that like this http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/05/28/multiple-external-networks-wit/ | 13:41 |
pjm6 | ? | 13:41 |
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mhayden | pjm6: well, that's an ovs-specific example there | 13:56 |
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pjm6 | mhayden: yes, you are right but I didn't find an example with Neutron | 14:07 |
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pjm6 | I assume that would be possible but i didn't find an example in how to do it. I assumed that example could work with neutron, but maybe i'm thinking wrongly? | 14:08 |
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pabelanger | morning! | 14:36 |
pabelanger | I haven't checked, but are using doing lxc containers as root or unprivileged user? | 14:38 |
pabelanger | and is there any differences in functionality? | 14:38 |
spotz | morning | 14:38 |
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mhayden | pabelanger: they run as root with some AppArmor profiles applied | 14:59 |
palendae | I believe there are differences in functionality between running as root and an unprivileged used | 15:00 |
palendae | uer* | 15:00 |
palendae | ... | 15:00 |
palendae | I think in Ubuntu unprivileged users can only make containers with the lxc template scripts | 15:01 |
cloudnull | morning | 15:11 |
spotz | morning cloudnull | 15:11 |
cloudnull | ohai spotz | 15:11 |
cloudnull | Bofu2U: just note the cabling :) | 15:12 |
cloudnull | the galera restart will need to be handled from full service down, but that can be done using the galera-install.yml play | 15:13 |
cloudnull | rabbitmq might also need some nudging depending on how it was shutdown | 15:13 |
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cloudnull | odyssey4me: you about today ? | 15:16 |
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palendae | I think most of the UK is still off today | 15:19 |
cloudnull | yea, bank holiday | 15:19 |
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting on review.openstack.org in an attempt to address an issue reading an object from the ec2-api repository | 15:20 | |
cloudnull | ^ exciting | 15:20 |
spotz | heheh | 15:22 |
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automagically | morning | 15:33 |
cloudnull | o/ automagically | 15:36 |
spotz | morning automagically | 15:37 |
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pjm6 | morning all :) | 15:43 |
pjm6 | morning all | 15:43 |
cloudnull | o/ pjm6 | 15:45 |
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pjm6 | everything's good? | 15:46 |
mhayden | as far as i can tell! | 15:46 |
spotz | morning pjm6 | 15:47 |
openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates all repo SHAs to prepare for Mitaka release https://review.openstack.org/296799 | 15:51 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-repo_server: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source https://review.openstack.org/279790 | 15:51 |
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cloudnull | any cores around that want to test/review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295866/ | 15:54 |
cloudnull | :) | 15:54 |
cloudnull | + https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296799 too | 15:55 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source https://review.openstack.org/279788 | 15:56 |
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cloudnull | ^ that one is blocking the integrated gate at this point as we begin testing mitaka 2 | 15:56 |
spotz | cloudnull will my 1 help? If so I'll go review | 15:58 |
openstackgerrit | Ala Raddaoui proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts: Add a check for hosts particular kernel modules https://review.openstack.org/291797 | 15:59 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source https://review.openstack.org/279789 | 16:01 |
cloudnull | thanks spots | 16:04 |
cloudnull | * spotz | 16:04 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source https://review.openstack.org/297070 | 16:04 |
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pabelanger | mhayden: palendae: thanks for the info. Going to give unprivileged lxc a try first. If I have major issue, I'll just do sudo | 16:13 |
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palendae | pabelanger: Some useful information to be armed with from the LXC technical lead: https://www.stgraber.org/2014/01/17/lxc-1-0-unprivileged-containers/ | 16:14 |
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pjm6 | in neutron I have added an bridge associated with an ethernet adapter, I already give an IP to that bridge (using OVS) and created in the neutron of openstack | 16:40 |
pjm6 | but when I attach an adapter connected in that network the VM can't access to that traffic | 16:41 |
pjm6 | anyone have a clue of how debug this better? | 16:41 |
pabelanger | palendae: thanks, reading now | 16:41 |
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cloudnull | if anyone has spare review cycles -- this could use some https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297665/ -- that fixes the glance_store bug that is causing us issues when storing glance images in swift | 18:00 |
cloudnull | Im testing it today, will post feedback in the review soon-ish, however more would be benificial | 18:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Travis Truman (automagically) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_openrc: Set OS_TENANT_NAME for backward compatibility https://review.openstack.org/298362 | 18:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Travis Truman (automagically) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_openrc: Set OS_TENANT_NAME for backward compatibility https://review.openstack.org/298362 | 18:23 |
openstackgerrit | Hector I Gonzalez Mendoza proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance: Updated role using Multi-Distro framework https://review.openstack.org/297320 | 18:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_openrc: Set OS_TENANT_NAME for backward compatibility https://review.openstack.org/298362 | 18:57 |
spotz | We got our fishbowl Wednesday 11:50-12:30, I'll have to miss the second half to make it to my session:( | 18:57 |
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pjm6 | about the deployment of the ansible, where we define the floating ips? | 19:03 |
pjm6 | it's different of Tunnel network right? (Tunnel is only between the tenants) | 19:04 |
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cloudnull | pjm6: in openstack-ansible youd define your VLANs that you want to use within the bridge config | 19:18 |
cloudnull | post deployment you'd simply create your neutron networks using the neutron command line client | 19:18 |
cloudnull | openstack-ansible does not configure the services post deployment. | 19:18 |
cloudnull | it sets them up for use | 19:18 |
pjm6 | hmm, so the bridge of the tunnel (bond1) is where I can put my DMZ networks that I want, right? | 19:19 |
cloudnull | br-vlan normally | 19:19 |
pjm6 | hm, thanks :) I was reading the doc and I appears that doubt to me | 19:19 |
cloudnull | and your range of vlans that you intend to use within that network can be set here | 19:20 |
cloudnull | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L56 | 19:20 |
pjm6 | that VLAN correspond to the VLAN of the existing networks and not the VLANs of the tenants, right? | 19:20 |
cloudnull | yes | 19:20 |
cloudnull | existing networks | 19:20 |
cloudnull | in most setups tenant networks will be created using vxlan | 19:21 |
cloudnull | if nay cores are around it'd be great to get this through for further mitaka rc2 testing -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296799/ -- | 19:22 |
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cloudnull | ^ while that sets the glance backend to file, it does pull in the latest mitaka rc2 upstream changes. | 19:22 |
cloudnull | the file change is becuase of the upstream store issue | 19:23 |
pjm6 | cloudnull: thanks =) that helps a lot in understanding the flow of neutron | 19:24 |
pjm6 | one more question, in this section http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/targethosts-prepare.html#configuring-lvm | 19:24 |
cloudnull | sure , whats up ? | 19:25 |
pjm6 | (configuring LVM) it's recommend to use a dedicated volume to create the LVM, right? | 19:25 |
pjm6 | for example, I have /dev/sda for operating system, then /dev/sdb or other should be using when creating this LVM volume, right? | 19:25 |
cloudnull | I would. | 19:25 |
cloudnull | if you have the devices/partitions to spare | 19:25 |
cloudnull | if sda has a free partition you can use that too. | 19:26 |
pjm6 | for testing and mounting the storage node to have 2 disks, but for good practices is good to have one separated from other, right? | 19:27 |
cloudnull | pjm6: if your using ceph can not the LVM backend you may not need the "cinder-volumes" volume group | 19:27 |
pjm6 | cloudnull: no, I will be using cinder because later I will attach it to an storage via iSCSCI | 19:27 |
pjm6 | and if I understand, the Ceph is good when I have lots of disks | 19:27 |
cloudnull | pjm6: as a best practice I'd keep them separate. | 19:27 |
cloudnull | pjm6: that is correct. | 19:27 |
cloudnull | was just making sure you knew the volume group setup is optional and is based on your block-storage backend | 19:28 |
pjm6 | yes, thank you. | 19:30 |
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pjm6 | hope that my deployment goes good :) | 19:30 |
pjm6 | it's problematic if I deploy only one infra_host ? | 19:30 |
pjm6 | (for testing propuses) | 19:30 |
cloudnull | no. | 19:30 |
cloudnull | just do it in odd numbers | 19:31 |
daledude | when adding networking to provider_networks in openstack_user_config.yml what playbooks should i re-run? | 19:31 |
cloudnull | 1 ok, 2 not, 3 ok. | 19:31 |
pjm6 | 2 is not ok for some reason' | 19:31 |
pjm6 | ? | 19:31 |
pjm6 | initially I don't know if I could have 3 servers for redundancy | 19:31 |
cloudnull | pjm6: the infra servers are used for galera (database) and rabbit (messaging) clusters and they dont do well when running with even numbers of servers because of quorum . | 19:32 |
cloudnull | daledude: what networks are being added? | 19:33 |
cloudnull | is it for lxc containers ? or just updates that need to go into neutron's config ? | 19:33 |
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stevelle | I'm still deploying an env for that glance one as well | 19:33 |
cloudnull | if its for the containers themselves to get a new network just rerun lxc-container-create.yml after you add the new networks | 19:34 |
cloudnull | stevelle: thanks | 19:34 |
pjm6 | cloudnull: if I add infra host inside a network host to, it's too bad? as they run like containers and don't know which impact they cause | 19:34 |
cloudnull | thats fine | 19:35 |
pjm6 | thanks cloudnull :) | 19:35 |
cloudnull | in production we run separate nework hosts because we're wanting to maximize capacity however network services run fine on the infra boxes | 19:36 |
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cloudnull | all of the neutron agent bits live within the container. | 19:36 |
pjm6 | yes, this is because I will have bare metals | 19:36 |
pjm6 | and I only planed two for controller, two for network and two for storage | 19:36 |
pjm6 | didn't know about the odd numbers :x | 19:37 |
stevelle | you do need an odd number of galera and rabbit containers, just set affinity: 2 on one of the hosts for each | 19:37 |
stevelle | affinity is mentioned in the docs | 19:37 |
pjm6 | stevelle: thanks, but the affinity is the number of containers that a host should run about a service, right? | 19:38 |
stevelle | pjm6: correct. | 19:38 |
pjm6 | sorry for the question (probably will be ultra noob ) | 19:38 |
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pjm6 | what's the advantage of have redundacy in the same host (but with different contaniners?) | 19:38 |
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pjm6 | is for the case that a container for some reason could freak out and stops working ? | 19:38 |
stevelle | pjm6: there is no advantage except for the fact that galera and rabbit expect an odd number of members in the cluster | 19:39 |
stevelle | and those are both clustered to avoid having a single point of failure on those critical infra servies | 19:39 |
pjm6 | hmm ok :) for some point it make senses | 19:39 |
pjm6 | it's like the airplane controllers, it has 3 to make the voter, and make sure that at least two agree in the value | 19:40 |
stevelle | you need an odd number, so with 2 infra hosts you either start over with 3 infra hosts or you bump affinity :) | 19:40 |
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stevelle | good analogy | 19:40 |
pjm6 | I think i will adopt one host with affinity of two, and the other with one =) | 19:41 |
pjm6 | in the future | 19:41 |
pjm6 | its easy to upgrade this architecture? | 19:41 |
pjm6 | like, removing the affinity of 2 to 1 in the host1 and add another host | 19:41 |
pjm6 | thanks stevelle :) | 19:41 |
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daledude | cloudnull: sorry for delay. im adding new external networks. didnt know if the agent lxc containers needed the new interfaces too | 19:49 |
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mrda | Thanks odyssey4me + others for seeing https://review.openstack.org/296077 through | 19:51 |
cloudnull | so if your adding new entries like so https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L42-L50 -- all you need to do is rerun the lxc-container-create play and the os-neutron-install play | 19:51 |
cloudnull | when you reconfigure neutron you can use a tag to make it faster | 19:51 |
cloudnull | openstack-ansible os-neutron-install.yml --tags neutron-config | 19:51 |
* cloudnull is assuming what your adding is for neutron | 19:52 | |
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mhayden | if anyone has any feedback on the lbaasv2 backport for liberty, let me know! :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295866/ | 19:57 |
daledude | cloudnull: thanks | 19:57 |
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cloudnull | anytime daledude | 20:03 |
spotz | mhayden that one still in progress?:) | 20:04 |
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daledude | im on 12.0.8 atm but interested in going to mitaka since im not using anything for production yet. is it possible to go from 12.0.8 to mitaki with osad? or should i *really* wait till april for final osad mitaka release? | 20:12 |
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pjm6 | what value should I put here INTERNAL_LB_VIP_ADDRESS and here external_lb_vip_address if i'm not using a load balancer? | 20:31 |
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pjm6 | or this is the primary IP that I define, for example if my infra_hosts the IP of the first is 10.0.0.100, the internal_lb_vip_address would be 10.0.0.100 ? | 20:34 |
automagically | pjm6: That should work. Are you installing HAProxy? | 20:35 |
pjm6 | and the external is the IP that are connected to DMZ, right? | 20:36 |
pjm6 | I didn't get to that part, but I was thinking installing yes | 20:36 |
automagically | pjm6: You are correct (I believe) about the external | 20:37 |
pjm6 | I was confusing, because this IP is the VIP that will be used to mask a failure, right? | 20:38 |
pjm6 | if I put an IP of one of the servers, the HA wouldn't fail ? | 20:38 |
pjm6 | forget it | 20:39 |
pjm6 | The Ip that I define | 20:39 |
automagically | Well, both internal and external can be VIPs. The HAProxy playbook also sets up keepalived config that you can use to shuffle a single IP between all three of your infra hosts that are running HAProxy. That’s probably the best approach to take | 20:39 |
pjm6 | should not be the same as the HOST, | 20:39 |
pjm6 | like infra1: 10.10.0.101; infra2: 10.10.0.102; infra3: 10.10.0.103 | 20:39 |
pjm6 | after a failure of one of them, one will bring up the virtual IP 10.10.0.100, right? | 20:39 |
automagically | It should not be the same as the host, it should be the one you provide to keepalived to use as the VIP. That’s why I was asking about your plans on installing HAProxy | 20:40 |
pjm6 | Yes, I will install it for redundancy :) | 20:40 |
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pjm6 | thanks automagically | 20:40 |
pjm6 | but if I wanted an single deployment (for testing) that VIP could be the IP of the current host, right? | 20:41 |
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automagically | Yes | 20:47 |
mhayden | spotz: that's the liberty backport | 20:48 |
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pjm6 | thanks | 20:53 |
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spotz | mhayden ahh | 21:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: remove depricated manager options https://review.openstack.org/298450 | 22:10 |
prometheanfire | cloudnull: have fun https://review.openstack.org/298450 | 22:10 |
cloudnull | tyvm | 22:11 |
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