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dmsimard | I guess hwoarang isn't on but I looked at one of his patches out of curiosity: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569457/ | 00:59 |
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olivierbourdon38 | Good morning everyone, quick question: in https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/openstack-ansible/latest/targethosts.html it is said that ntp needs to be installed and configured on target hosts. However, I found out that after deployment is done, ntp is not running anymore but chronyd instead. Is this expected ? what are the reasons to replace one by the other ? many thanks as usual | 06:44 |
olivierbourdon38 | forgot to mention that my nodes are running ubuntu 16.04 | 06:44 |
nsingh | evrardjp: hi, i am able to run funtional test for openstack-ansible-os_masakari in my environment. I will submit the patch soon. But i have a question regarding variable which i have defined in masakari_all.yml file. While testing that variable was undefined so i have added those variables in default/main.yml file itself. Is it ok? | 07:01 |
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parasitid | hi all | 07:32 |
parasitid | odyssey4me: hi | 07:33 |
parasitid | odyssey4me: hit this issue this morning: https://pastebin.com/GB2Py5RY | 07:33 |
parasitid | wasn't the case last week | 07:33 |
parasitid | ["cmd2 requires Python '>=3.4' but the running Python is 2.7.12"], "stdout": "Building venv rally-17.0.4-x86_64...", | 07:33 |
olivierbourdon38 | parasitid I had he same issue earlier today but after relaunching it disapeared | 07:34 |
parasitid | oh | 07:34 |
olivierbourdon38 | could not guess what caused it | 07:34 |
parasitid | ok | 07:35 |
parasitid | maybe related to this https://github.com/python-cmd2/cmd2/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md | 07:35 |
olivierbourdon38 | could be, at least it might very well have impacted our runs | 07:37 |
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olivierbourdon38 | parasitid just came across https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570811/ | 08:16 |
parasitid | olivierbourdon38: ;) | 08:17 |
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hwoarang | good morning | 08:25 |
hwoarang | cores: i think this is needed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570601/ for opensuse gates to work | 08:25 |
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odyssey4me | jra OSA tries to prefer the RDO packages, but with the new CentOS release we're having all sorts of issues with EPEL and base package conflicts now. :/ the pin for the libvirt package comes from the openstack upper constraints | 08:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally master: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570868 | 08:55 |
odyssey4me | hwoarang evrardjp[m] I think we're going to need ^ merged asap. | 08:56 |
odyssey4me | and backported to all stable branches | 08:56 |
hwoarang | :( | 08:56 |
hwoarang | odyssey4me: why do we put constrains there instead of the global OSA req file? | 08:57 |
odyssey4me | hwoarang because rally is built without using u-c, and that lib is constrained in u-c anyway... or will be once https://review.openstack.org/570811 merges | 08:58 |
odyssey4me | we should actually probably pin all rally packages, and update them regularly | 08:58 |
hwoarang | i see | 08:59 |
odyssey4me | let me do a follow up patch for that | 08:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Taseer Ahmed proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_blazar master: Introduce os_blazar role in gerrit https://review.openstack.org/567112 | 09:03 |
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odyssey4me | I find myself wondering whether we shouldn't actually exclude rally from the default build, given that it's unconstrained. | 09:08 |
odyssey4me | oh, interesting - rally releases to pypi | 09:15 |
odyssey4me | maybe we should switch to installing from pypi like we did for tempest | 09:15 |
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odyssey4me | alternatively, it seems to currently build if constraints are applied - perhaps it'd be better if we switch it to constrained for all branches and see how that goes | 09:18 |
odyssey4me | maybe do both, like we did for tempest - install from pypi (with a version pin) and use constraints | 09:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570879 | 09:33 |
odyssey4me | hwoarang evrardjp ^ we'll need to that too | 09:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Taseer Ahmed proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_blazar master: Introduce os_blazar role in gerrit https://review.openstack.org/567112 | 09:37 |
Tahvok | Hey guys! Can anyone help me understand this errors? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549294/ | 09:37 |
evrardjp | good morning | 09:38 |
Tahvok | Morning :) | 09:38 |
odyssey4me | Tahvok for the integrated build to work again, we'll need https://review.openstack.org/570879 and https://review.openstack.org/570868 and https://review.openstack.org/570601 merged to clear up those errors | 09:39 |
evrardjp | Taseer: could you ping me your review again? | 09:39 |
Tahvok | I see.. So it's not my review | 09:39 |
Taseer | evrardjp: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567112/ | 09:39 |
evrardjp | thanks Taseer | 09:40 |
Tahvok | Thanks for clarifying it odyssey4me ! | 09:40 |
Taseer | evrardjp: I have added you as a reviewer as well | 09:40 |
odyssey4me | the first resolves the lint failure, the second will resolve a repo build failure, and the third will too | 09:40 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: for rally... I don't mind the different ways to fix it, but due to the fact we already pin ansible, it's maybe worth doing a pin for all those deps moving around | 09:42 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp 137 deps :/ | 09:42 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp I'm thinking that perhaps we rather stop doing an unconstrained build, use u-c, then only add pins for the packages which aren't in u-c | 09:43 |
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odyssey4me | that way the list should be considerably smaller and easier to manage | 09:43 |
odyssey4me | I'll push up some patches in a bit - but for now we need to get the gates moving again | 09:44 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: oh yeah that's what I meant, not the full list | 09:46 |
evrardjp | "the ones moving around" | 09:47 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally master: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570868 | 09:49 |
odyssey4me | hwoarang ^ added a comment as you suggested | 09:50 |
blinkiz | I have a ceph cluster running in production that I do not really want to change much in. I can see that ceph_client package wants to login with SSH into my monitoring hosts. Can I create myself users/permissions for ceph_client so it does not need ssh root access to monitoring ceph nodes? Maybe I should allow ssh access and learn what exactly ceph_client package is doing.. Trying to find a way forward here. | 09:50 |
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odyssey4me | evrardjp hwoarang did you see dmsimard's comment in https://review.openstack.org/569457 - perhaps we can finally get the required packages into RDO so that we can be rid of EPEL? | 09:55 |
odyssey4me | there may be some packages we install from EPEL which aren't needed any more, so it'll probably be a combination of adding some and removing some... could either of you guys work with him and mnaser to get that done? for now though I think we should continue to make the centos gates non-voting for the os_roles to ensure they're not blocking anything else | 09:56 |
openstackgerrit | Andy McCrae proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create master: Ensure container configuration is sorted https://review.openstack.org/570881 | 09:59 |
hwoarang | odyssey4me: yeah looking forward to it | 10:01 |
evrardjp | I guess dmsimard and mnaser can get that done | 10:01 |
evrardjp | Taseer: let me merge our two PRs, they overlap now. | 10:02 |
openstackgerrit | Olivier Bourdon proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops stable/pike: Prevent duplicated lines https://review.openstack.org/570883 | 10:07 |
openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_blazar master: Add blazar base jobs https://review.openstack.org/569344 | 10:10 |
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evrardjp | blinkiz: I think ssh access was just for convience to fetch some config information | 10:14 |
evrardjp | check maybe the ceph documentation. | 10:14 |
evrardjp | https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible-ceph_client/latest/configure-ceph.html#configuration-file-overrides | 10:15 |
evrardjp | maybe andymccr can help there | 10:15 |
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Taseer | evrardjp: evrardjp[m]: so now all the work will be done in your new patch ? and abondon mine ? | 10:18 |
andymccr | the client role needs you to specify ceph_mons or it basically does nothing, you dont need to use that to get the config from the hosts, but i dont see an option in the role currently to avoid getting the user key information (which is delegated to the ceph_mon hosts) | 10:18 |
Taseer | evrardjp: I see you already have | 10:20 |
odyssey4me | hwoarang could you peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570879/ - it's just waiting for centos to finalise | 10:20 |
evrardjp | hwoarang: do not worry I forced merged it, we need to iterate! | 10:22 |
evrardjp | :) | 10:22 |
evrardjp | but an additional review is always welcomed. | 10:22 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/ocata: Comment tempest_git_repo role default https://review.openstack.org/570891 | 10:29 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp ^ that didn't seem to get backported with all the other tempest build changes | 10:30 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: hwoarang and others, please be aware that aspiers has a tool to help on the backporting work | 10:31 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp what tool? what does it do? | 10:33 |
evrardjp | basically it helps finding up a chain of backports, when a backport chain has to happen | 10:34 |
evrardjp | so we could be more lenient in the process, and not being actively backporting them as we do now | 10:35 |
evrardjp | helps on the more distributed work story | 10:35 |
odyssey4me | ok, interesting - it's be nice to see a blog post or something to show how it works and what it does | 10:35 |
evrardjp | yeah I should do that | 10:35 |
evrardjp | will work with aspiers on it. | 10:35 |
odyssey4me | thanks! | 10:36 |
evrardjp | let me add that to my todolist | 10:36 |
blinkiz | Thank you guys for taking the time to answer my ceph_client question. ceph_client includes the file ceph_get_mon_host.yml that is trying to ssh into ceph monitors and obviously fails. I have not given it access. My user_varibles.yml should contain everything so cinder/glance can access pools I have created. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CTQBMR67pD/ . Am probably missing something in my config files | 10:36 |
odyssey4me | perhaps, to distribute the work, aspiers should do that ;) | 10:36 |
evrardjp | haha maybe he did | 10:37 |
evrardjp | but I think I should show with a real use case :) | 10:38 |
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evrardjp | good morning nicolasbock | 10:38 |
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nicolasbock | morning evrardjp :) | 10:39 |
evrardjp | I guess it's time to do releases and stuff, I am a little late with the summit | 10:39 |
evrardjp | nicolasbock: how was the trip back from the summit? | 10:40 |
nicolasbock | Pretty smooth actually. I got home pretty late but otherwise it was fine. | 10:40 |
nicolasbock | Except for that SEA really needs more outlets ;) | 10:41 |
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nicolasbock | How about you evrardjp ? | 10:44 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp well, that's interesting - rally has its own u-c file: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt | 10:48 |
odyssey4me | that may help us in the future, but not now - until we have the ability to set per-venv u-c, this is only useful as a reference | 10:49 |
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odyssey4me | ohemgee - 'diff -y' just changed my life | 10:52 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: oh yes, interesting :) | 10:52 |
evrardjp | ahah for real odyssey4me ? | 10:52 |
odyssey4me | side by side comparitive diff | 10:52 |
evrardjp | yeah I know | 10:53 |
odyssey4me | and you didn't tell me about it? man, what good are you :p | 10:53 |
evrardjp | It would be so nice to have it by default in all the git diffs | 10:53 |
evrardjp | I think we can change the diff command but never tried it | 10:53 |
evrardjp | haha | 10:53 |
evrardjp | I am pretty sure you should have seen it on my screen when we were working side by side :) | 10:53 |
evrardjp | (and yes, this is a recursive -y joke) | 10:54 |
evrardjp | nicolasbock: I didn't know you were that close :) | 10:55 |
nicolasbock | Well, I wouldn't call it close, but certainly closer than you ;) | 10:55 |
openstackgerrit | Olivier Bourdon proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops master: Prevent duplicated lines https://review.openstack.org/570899 | 11:00 |
openstackgerrit | Olivier Bourdon proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops stable/pike: Prevent duplicated lines https://review.openstack.org/570883 | 11:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally master: Implement pypi-based install and package pinning for non u-c packages https://review.openstack.org/570905 | 11:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests master: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570879 | 11:22 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Remove rally_git_* overrides https://review.openstack.org/570906 | 11:23 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/queens: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570907 | 11:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Olivier Bourdon proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops stable/queens: Prevent duplicated lines https://review.openstack.org/570908 | 11:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/pike: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570909 | 11:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570914 | 11:44 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp ^ plugging the same gap for the integrated build | 11:45 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570914 | 11:46 |
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parasitid | hi again | 11:55 |
parasitid | hitting an issue: cinder node is failing | 11:55 |
parasitid | the playbook tries to reload the process but it exits 1 | 11:56 |
parasitid | when i look at the logs on the cinder node, it appears that the cinder-volume.service tries to connect to mysql | 11:56 |
parasitid | and exists because "Table 'cinder.services' doesn't exist" | 11:57 |
parasitid | any clue on what i've been doing wrong | 11:57 |
parasitid | ? | 11:57 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally master: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570868 | 12:02 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: no u-c in that? | 12:02 |
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odyssey4me | evrardjp in what? | 12:03 |
evrardjp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570914/2/scripts/gate-check-commit.sh | 12:03 |
evrardjp | isolated would not get the constraints, right? | 12:03 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp PIP_OPTS contains all the constraints which were prepped for bootstrap-ansible | 12:03 |
evrardjp | it doesn't look like it? | 12:03 |
evrardjp | oh maybe that's PIP_COMMAND | 12:04 |
odyssey4me | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/scripts/bootstrap-ansible.sh#L163-L165 | 12:04 |
evrardjp | oh righto | 12:05 |
evrardjp | I will add comments in another commit, because that's highly confusing | 12:07 |
odyssey4me | so the comments I added in that commit weren't enough? | 12:09 |
odyssey4me | I can tweak them to add more info if you like. | 12:09 |
parasitid | i wonder if there isnt a race condition with the playbooks and systemd | 12:10 |
odyssey4me | parasitid it sounds like the database wasn't created, which means a task may have failed earlier in the log and the database creation was excluded from the play - check for that | 12:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Add extra process documentation https://review.openstack.org/570922 | 12:11 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570914 | 12:11 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp better? | 12:12 |
parasitid | odyssey4me: is the database created before or after the systemd service is installed? | 12:12 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: haha I did my own patch | 12:12 |
odyssey4me | parasitid the database is created before the role even executes | 12:12 |
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evrardjp | reviewing | 12:12 |
evrardjp | It doesn't matter, both are good. | 12:12 |
odyssey4me | parasitid https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/stable/queens/playbooks/os-cinder-install.yml#L49-L56 | 12:13 |
evrardjp | lunchtime | 12:13 |
parasitid | the database: meaning the mysql user or the mysql user + the cinder schema | 12:13 |
parasitid | ? | 12:13 |
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odyssey4me | that just creates the database | 12:13 |
parasitid | ok | 12:14 |
odyssey4me | the schema is then populated in the role https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder/blob/master/tasks/cinder_db_setup.yml#L16-L20 | 12:14 |
parasitid | because the systemd service fails because the Table cinder.volumes doesnt exits | 12:14 |
odyssey4me | ah, sorry - misread | 12:15 |
parasitid | but it may be "the systemd service will fail until the schema is populated" | 12:15 |
odyssey4me | the db sync is executed on the first api node: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder/blob/stable/queens/tasks/main.yml#L53-L60 | 12:15 |
parasitid | but there may be a race condition in the playbook | 12:15 |
parasitid | because the playbook tries to do a "systemctl reload cinder-volume.service' | 12:16 |
odyssey4me | no there shouldn't be - the service is only started after the db sync is done - it happens here: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder/blob/stable/queens/tasks/main.yml#L91 | 12:16 |
odyssey4me | yes, but that reload happens after all the nodes have completed their setup and are already running | 12:16 |
parasitid | but it the service is not active because it's restarting | 12:16 |
odyssey4me | so the only situation that may not be working is if there was already a failure earlier | 12:16 |
parasitid | then systemctl reload will fail and the playbooks exits with failure | 12:17 |
parasitid | ok | 12:17 |
parasitid | will check | 12:17 |
parasitid | that | 12:17 |
odyssey4me | find the first failure in that playbook | 12:17 |
parasitid | havent got any | 12:17 |
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parasitid | but maybe i just havent setup any cinder api node :) | 12:18 |
odyssey4me | that's possible | 12:18 |
odyssey4me | is this group populated in your inventory? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/stable/queens/etc/openstack_deploy/conf.d/cinder.yml.aio#L2 | 12:19 |
parasitid | isnt it the sotrage_infra_hosts inventory group | 12:19 |
parasitid | ? | 12:19 |
odyssey4me | I just pointed at the right name | 12:20 |
parasitid | yup | 12:20 |
parasitid | seen thtat | 12:20 |
odyssey4me | note the - not the _ | 12:20 |
parasitid | i've mispelled it | 12:20 |
parasitid | thanks | 12:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Add extra process documentation https://review.openstack.org/570922 | 12:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-repo_build master: tasks: repo_build_wheels: Download get-pip.py if it does not exist https://review.openstack.org/570601 | 12:31 |
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odyssey4me | evrardjp some backports to review please: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I35e3688ae632d5f7747f32dafc41d23883c033c5 | 12:35 |
odyssey4me | with a cherry on top: https://review.openstack.org/570911 | 12:36 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Remove rally_git_* overrides https://review.openstack.org/570906 | 12:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/queens: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570928 | 12:44 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/pike: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570929 | 12:44 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/ocata: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570930 | 12:48 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/ocata: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570930 | 12:49 |
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mgariepy | morning everyone | 12:51 |
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* mnaser is dealing with cmd2 stuff all morning | 13:07 | |
mnaser | ill try to talk with rdo about uwsgi | 13:07 |
mgariepy | mnaser, that would be awesome. | 13:07 |
mnaser | they're very approachable at #rdo if someone has a few minutes to ping them about it :) | 13:07 |
mgariepy | mnaser, is there any other pkg we would need ? | 13:08 |
mnaser | afaik it's just uwsgi right now. others maybe can comment more accurately | 13:08 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/queens: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570928 | 13:13 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/pike: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570929 | 13:13 |
odyssey4me | mnaser for now that's a start - I think as we move through the roles to get them working with distro packages we may find more | 13:16 |
odyssey4me | we could actually push up a review for master to remove the use of EPEL altogether and see what shakes out, as long as we're ok with making any tests that fail non-voting until RDO has a package for it, or we figure out that the package isn't needed | 13:17 |
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mgariepy | i would be ok to remove epel from openstack services. | 13:17 |
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mgariepy | but for example, repo server needs some stuff from epel. | 13:18 |
odyssey4me | mgariepy nginx was the only one as far as I remember - if you have some time to ferret out other packages needed, that['d be great] | 13:18 |
mgariepy | apt-cacher-ng is one too. | 13:19 |
odyssey4me | hmm, well - an option there could be to just disable the cacher for centos with a reno saying that if a deployer needs a cache, they should implement it themselves | 13:20 |
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mgariepy | let me deploy a test instance. | 13:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_blazar master: Add blazar base jobs https://review.openstack.org/569344 | 13:32 |
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evrardjp | seems just fine to disable it :) | 13:42 |
guilhermesp | hey guys, morning. Just a quick brainstorm. What do you think using ELK ( https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-ops/tree/master/elk_metrics ) with filebeat instead of topboeat? All my use cases since newton release were using ELK suit to aggregate infrastructure logs, and it's been very useful | 13:42 |
evrardjp | I wonder how much we gain by using it in containers | 13:42 |
evrardjp | now that we properly wire containers apt repos | 13:42 |
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evrardjp | guilhermesp: worth asking cloudnull | 13:43 |
evrardjp | he recently worked on that | 13:43 |
guilhermesp | yeah, sounds better. I'm not seeing him very active lately here but I'm gonna try to find an oportunity to talk about it. | 13:45 |
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harryhuang_ | Hi guys, i encountered a problem with pike : when i try to use OS_INSECURE=true to get pass the https, it failed. also i found insecure is None with --debug option | 13:46 |
mnaser | odyssey4me, mgariepy: we can use nginx from upstream at worst | 13:47 |
evrardjp | guilhermesp: lately it was the summit | 13:50 |
guilhermesp | evrardjp: yes indeed :) | 13:51 |
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odyssey4me | harryhuang_ I don't think that environment variable is a thing - you have to use --insecure IIRC | 13:59 |
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cloudnull | o/ | 14:04 |
cloudnull | mornings | 14:04 |
harryhuang_ | odyssey4me: yes you are right. --insecure does work but i also manage to use OS_INSECURE in older version of openstack | 14:04 |
cloudnull | guilhermesp I'd recommend using https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-ops/tree/master/elk_metrics_6x | 14:05 |
cloudnull | which implements metricbeat which is the successor to topbeat | 14:06 |
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guilhermesp | cloudnull: yeah, but still related to metrics of the system, not aggregation of log files, right? | 14:11 |
guilhermesp | ops, but there is filebeat too https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-ops/blob/master/elk_metrics_6x/installFilebeat.yml | 14:13 |
guilhermesp | that's great | 14:14 |
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cloudnull | yea, sorry was not paying attention | 14:23 |
cloudnull | filebeat should be setup to take all of the logs from the host and the various openstack applications | 14:23 |
cloudnull | we also have journalbeat which will consume the journal messages too | 14:24 |
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guilhermesp | cloudnull: no problem :) Seems that We will only have this in rocky release, but it is good to know. I've been using my own ELK implementation. And will be awesome to use that one in ops repo to try to contribute | 14:24 |
cloudnull | It should work with the embeded ansible in any openstack deployment running cent7, suse 42, or xenial + | 14:25 |
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* cloudnull has all of this running in newton today | 14:26 | |
guilhermesp | huum, so I am going to deploy in my pike production cloud | 14:26 |
guilhermesp | I'd like to have an ELK to monitor my logs during my minor/major upgrades | 14:26 |
guilhermesp | is this master version stable than? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-ops/tree/master/elk_metrics_6x | 14:27 |
odyssey4me | guilhermesp the ops repo is not tested at all except by those who use it, so the stability is really determined by the users | 14:29 |
guilhermesp | so, will be awesome to test it :) | 14:29 |
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cloudnull | yes. there's no tags for the elk things in the ops repos, so master (maybe use a SHA out of master) is what you should use. | 14:30 |
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guilhermesp | ok than, I'm going to schedule this deployment maybe for today or tomorrow. I will keep in touch | 14:33 |
tux_ | Morning folks! | 14:35 |
tux_ | i have question related Production deployment, is it ok to run keep HAproxy LB on 3 infra node in production? | 14:36 |
tux_ | Or if i want to use F5 then how do i tell ansible-openstack we have F5 and do deployment using F5? | 14:37 |
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evrardjp | tux_: If you have an f5, use it. | 14:39 |
evrardjp | if you don't, use haproxy. | 14:40 |
tux_ | but is it ok to use haproxy on infra node? | 14:40 |
evrardjp | I'd still advise for dedicated load balancer nodes, it helps tremendously | 14:40 |
evrardjp | tux_: you can | 14:40 |
tux_ | I heard somewhere people saying that is bad bad idea to put haproxy on infra node | 14:40 |
evrardjp | but you are comparing a rolls royce to a lada. | 14:41 |
tux_ | because it create self-inflected loop | 14:41 |
guilhermesp | tux_: my production env is exactly as you asked. 3 infra nodes using haproxy | 14:41 |
evrardjp | whether it's smart or not for your use case tux_ , it completely depends on YOUR use case. | 14:41 |
tux_ | hmm! i do have F5 but there are no official document how to use them with openstack-ansible deployment | 14:41 |
guilhermesp | I have no issues at all | 14:41 |
evrardjp | We cannot tell if that's a good idea or not without further details. | 14:42 |
evrardjp | guilhermesp: that's how it should work :) | 14:42 |
evrardjp | tux_: because there is no need for it? You're just not having haproxy nodes, configure your f5 appropriately, and everything will be fine. | 14:42 |
evrardjp | tux_: do you have F5s? | 14:43 |
tux_ | so i need to pre-configure F5 manually ? | 14:43 |
evrardjp | yes | 14:43 |
tux_ | I have many F5 in my network | 14:43 |
evrardjp | use them then :) | 14:43 |
tux_ | That is why i have question should i pre-configure and then start deployment or openstack-ansible will configure it ? | 14:44 |
evrardjp | tux_: if you want inspiration: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/inventory/group_vars/haproxy/haproxy.yml#L40-L367 | 14:44 |
evrardjp | nope, configure your lb manually | 14:44 |
evrardjp | or automatically, up to you | 14:45 |
evrardjp | but you have to do it | 14:45 |
tux_ | How can you configure F5 if you don't know what LXC container ips going to be? | 14:46 |
evrardjp | you can know it, as it's in the inventory. | 14:46 |
tux_ | oh!! so run inventory and then use those IP to setup internal/external VIP on F5 | 14:46 |
tux_ | make sense! | 14:47 |
evrardjp | yup | 14:47 |
tux_ | I am surprised why there is no official document or any small article how to use F5 with OSAD... but anyway thanks for help | 14:47 |
evrardjp | I think you can run this after the setup-hosts | 14:48 |
evrardjp | if you want to do it JIT | 14:48 |
evrardjp | tux_: I think there was before | 14:48 |
evrardjp | but there are not many ppl asking for it | 14:48 |
evrardjp | patches welcome if you want to make it part of the production user story | 14:48 |
tux_ | sure! | 14:49 |
tux_ | One more question related Production deployment i am planning to build 50 node private cloud so what kind of hardware i should use for infra nodes? | 14:50 |
tux_ | I am planning HP DL360 G8 with 40 core / 32GB / 300GB SSD | 14:50 |
tux_ | is that enough? | 14:50 |
tux_ | could you please share some of your deployment tips ? | 14:50 |
tux_ | evrardjp: ^^ | 14:51 |
guilhermesp | tux_: that almost the same as I use in each of my 3 infra nodes. The only difference is that I used Dell PowerEdge | 14:51 |
tux_ | guilhermesp: Thanks, 300GB for infra is enough? I meant glance also going to be on infra so want to make sure we have enough space | 14:51 |
guilhermesp | in my case, glance images are stored in my ceph backend | 14:53 |
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guilhermesp | as well as swift objects, nova instances and cinder volumes | 14:53 |
tux_ | guilhermesp: ah!! | 14:53 |
tux_ | what kind of backend storage you have? enterprise or host base? | 14:54 |
guilhermesp | my ceph backend is totally based on commodity hardware | 14:55 |
tux_ | I was thinking about storage cinder but question was how to deploy cinder in HA | 14:55 |
guilhermesp | I have 6 2U rackservers | 14:55 |
guilhermesp | 3 are Dell and the other 3 are HP | 14:55 |
cloudnull | evrardjp - https://github.com/os-cloud/os_zun - any chance we can get that role imported ? | 14:55 |
tux_ | what if one of Volume node is dead? | 14:55 |
cloudnull | That was an output from the summit | 14:56 |
cloudnull | its not a perfect role, but its getting there | 14:56 |
guilhermesp | tux_: not sure what you mean, but If one of the nodes of my ceph backed dies, ceph will take care about it :) | 14:57 |
tux_ | hmm! look like time to learn Ceph | 14:57 |
guilhermesp | you wont regret :) | 14:57 |
tux_ | Any other good tips :) | 14:58 |
tux_ | This week i am deploying my production openstack so want to make sure i don't miss out something that later regret | 14:58 |
tux_ | What you guys using for LBass? (ELB style load-balancer?) | 14:59 |
spotz | tux_: Are you asking about for instances, in which case Octavia is nice or for OSA installs iteself we use HAproxy | 15:03 |
tux_ | LB for instance (VMs), How do you guys deal with SSL certificate in this case? If my application need SSL cert then do i need to manually add in HAproxy or there is a api to handle it by GUI? | 15:09 |
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evrardjp | cloudnull: I don't see a reason why we couldn't import it. Let me check if we are still in import time. | 15:25 |
evrardjp | it doesn't help with tech debt, because we are ADDing roles, but if it helps ppl, why not :) | 15:25 |
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spotz | tux_ Haven't done much with Octavia, but there is configuration for SSL | 15:28 |
johnsom | tux_ Octavia uses barbican or castellan for secret storage. You can store your certificate and key in either of those for TLS offloading with Octavia. | 15:29 |
tux_ | hmm! I thought horizon support some short of GUI interface where anyone can upload own certificate to LBaaS | 15:30 |
johnsom | Yeah, through horizon the Octavia dashboard can pull in certs from barbican | 15:31 |
johnsom | There is also this dashboard plugin https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/castellan-ui | 15:33 |
tux_ | sweet! | 15:33 |
dmsimard | hwoarang, odyssey4me, evrardjp: aye, if you let me know what packages (if any) are needed from EPEL, we can include them in RDO | 15:34 |
dmsimard | if memory serves, uwsgi might be one of those -- the other installers typically deploy apache with mod_wsgi | 15:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Adds the certificate client key password to user_secrets https://review.openstack.org/558244 | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570960 | 15:59 |
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odyssey4me | folks, we need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I1e259ce98fc8517c0cd00a04d6fe7b3f0703f5b4 merged to unblock the integrated builds | 16:01 |
odyssey4me | with those merged, we'll need to bump role sha's | 16:02 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp I think that'll be necessary before release, otherwise we'll release something broken | 16:02 |
odyssey4me | rally is unfortunately part of our integrated AIO build and keys off the presence of the utility container | 16:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Remove rally_git_* overrides https://review.openstack.org/570906 | 16:09 |
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odyssey4me | cloudnull what's going on with the meeting today? or have I got the time wrong? | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Remove rally_git_* overrides https://review.openstack.org/570906 | 16:15 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Remove rally_git_* overrides https://review.openstack.org/570906 | 16:15 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Remove rally_git_* overrides https://review.openstack.org/570906 | 16:15 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally master: Implement pypi-based install and package pinning for non u-c packages https://review.openstack.org/570905 | 16:16 |
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cloudnull | oh I thought that was in 30 minutes ? | 16:24 |
* cloudnull could be running on the wrong time | 16:24 | |
d34dh0r53 | yo dawg, I heard you like timezones | 16:24 |
johnsom | odyssey4me Is there another cmd2 patch needed for this: http://logs.openstack.org/44/558244/6/check/openstack-ansible-deploy-aio_basekit-opensuse-423/5bf757f/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-29_15_53_15_672504 | 16:25 |
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johnsom | I see the patches for rally, not sure if that will cover this failure too or not | 16:25 |
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odyssey4me | johnsom that's covered by https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I35e3688ae632d5f7747f32dafc41d23883c033c5 | 16:26 |
cloudnull | damn it! 1600 UTC == 26 minutes ago | 16:26 |
odyssey4me | waiting for more core reviews there | 16:26 |
cloudnull | we can start now. | 16:26 |
johnsom | Hmm, the rebase I did on German's patch should have picked that up.... | 16:27 |
johnsom | Maybe it's pulling a package and not from git | 16:27 |
odyssey4me | johnsom which patch is that? | 16:28 |
cloudnull | cloudnull, DimGR, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, erikmwilson, mancdaz, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek, jwagner, ayoung, prometheanfire, evrardjp, arbrandes, mhayden, scarlisle, luckyinva, ntt, javeriak, spotz, vdo, jmccrory, alextricity25, jasondotstar, admin0, michaelgugino, amett | 16:28 |
cloudnull | s, bgmccollum, darrenc, JRobinson__, colinmcnamara, thorst, adreznec, eil397, qwang,nishpatwa_, cathrichardson, drifterza, hwoarang, cshen, ullbeking, Tahvok, mnaser, nicolasbock | 16:28 |
cloudnull | - ping - meeting starting in a couple minutes | 16:28 |
cloudnull | sorry for the late start I was timezone confused... | 16:28 |
mnaser | o/ | 16:28 |
johnsom | odyssey4me https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558244 | 16:28 |
cloudnull | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:29 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 16:29:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cloudnull. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:29 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:29 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:29 |
cloudnull | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 16:29 |
cloudnull | #topic roll call | 16:29 |
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mnaser | o/ | 16:29 |
cloudnull | o/ | 16:29 |
cmart | o/ | 16:30 |
cloudnull | lets give folks a couple min to roll in, i was late on getting started. | 16:30 |
odyssey4me | johnsom ah, sorry - wrong ref - it's this one: https://review.openstack.org/570914 | 16:30 |
d34dh0r53 | o/ | 16:32 |
cloudnull | Lets get started. | 16:32 |
cloudnull | #topic Topics for Discussion | 16:32 |
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cloudnull | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-openstack-ansible | 16:32 |
cloudnull | ^ Summit discussion from last week | 16:32 |
cloudnull | as most should know, the summit was last week so I'm sure many of us are still recovering from that :) | 16:32 |
andymccr | o/ | 16:32 |
hwoarang | o/ | 16:33 |
cloudnull | topics will be a little light given the fact taht many of us were away | 16:33 |
andymccr | did we get anything out of the forum sessions etc? | 16:33 |
cloudnull | in the previous meeting we talked about the PTG, if folks can continue to add to the PTG planning etherpad it'd be great to keep momentum there | 16:34 |
cloudnull | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-denver-PTG-planning | 16:34 |
cloudnull | before we dive into bugs lets have a round of open discussion. | 16:34 |
andymccr | thats last denvrs :D | 16:34 |
andymccr | we'll need a denver2-PTG-planning :) | 16:34 |
mnaser | denver 2.0 | 16:34 |
andymccr | Denver PTG 2 - too train, too choo. | 16:35 |
cloudnull | ops, fair enough, I'll make a new etherpad. | 16:35 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/ocata: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570930 | 16:35 |
cloudnull | andymccr the forum discussions were good, we heard back from a few users. I think there are a acouple things we can do to help make onboarding better. | 16:35 |
andymccr | excellent! | 16:36 |
cloudnull | also there seems to be a lot of interest in documenting a brownfield deployment process | 16:36 |
cloudnull | mnaser ^ | 16:36 |
cloudnull | something we talked about a the feedback session | 16:36 |
andymccr | thats pretty consistent feedback too | 16:36 |
cloudnull | we also talked to a couple users wanting a zun role for deployment. | 16:37 |
cloudnull | we worked on that while at the summit | 16:37 |
cloudnull | #link https://github.com/os-cloud/os_zun | 16:37 |
cloudnull | hopefully we can get that imported this cycle | 16:38 |
cloudnull | anyone have anything they want to talk about ? | 16:38 |
cloudnull | #topic open discussion | 16:38 |
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cloudnull | Denver PTG 2.0 link | 16:39 |
cloudnull | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osa-denver-PTG-planning-2.0 | 16:39 |
andymccr | haha | 16:39 |
andymccr | nice | 16:39 |
jrosser | i had very good results with the ELK stack from the ops repo, would encourage anyone else interested to give it a try | 16:40 |
cloudnull | ++ | 16:40 |
jrosser | it's pretty functional with queens too | 16:40 |
cloudnull | d34dh0r53 and I were talking at the summit and discovered that most services have a profiler section | 16:40 |
cloudnull | and we should be able to publish notifications naively into ELK | 16:40 |
d34dh0r53 | yes, osprofiler looks interesting | 16:40 |
cmart | (on the topic of ELK, i'm curious if anyone has connected Graylog to OSA-deployed OpenStack) | 16:41 |
cloudnull | which fits nicely into the new ELK stack | 16:41 |
d34dh0r53 | https://docs.openstack.org/osprofiler/latest/ | 16:41 |
odyssey4me | oh very nice :) | 16:41 |
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odyssey4me | cmart I think evrardjp has done something, although he's not pushed it up as a user story yet | 16:41 |
cloudnull | example profiler config in OS services https://github.com/os-cloud/os_zun/blob/master/templates/zun.conf.j2#L2054-L2164 | 16:42 |
jrosser | cmart: yes we have graylog consuming rsyslog from OSA but tbh i'm preferring the elk stuff | 16:42 |
cmart | cool. jrosser curious why, but we can take that out of band | 16:42 |
jrosser | sure, np | 16:42 |
cloudnull | this is a perfectly good time to chat about that if you want :) | 16:42 |
cloudnull | next topic is bug triage | 16:43 |
cloudnull | so we can talk about ops things for a min more or we can move right in to taht | 16:43 |
cloudnull | **that | 16:43 |
cmart | ok then. jrosser why do you prefer ELK to Graylog? | 16:43 |
jrosser | it was purely that people were more familiar wth Kibana than Graylog, nothing more than that | 16:43 |
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jrosser | could get going immediatley rather than learning something new | 16:44 |
jrosser | but it seems very much a matter of personal taste | 16:44 |
cmart | yeah. IIRC Graylog now uses Elasticsearch under the hood, so the main difference would be the sorting/filtering UI | 16:45 |
cloudnull | within the recent releases of greeylog it doesn't loook like it works with ELK6 | 16:47 |
cloudnull | yet | 16:47 |
odyssey4me | it'd be good to perhaps transition the elk ops playbooks to use a good elasticsearch role than can be commonly used across both implementations, and that supports building a cluster properly | 16:47 |
cloudnull | the ELK things that we've been using are all ELK 6 at this time | 16:48 |
jrosser | i did see there was a blueprint for ELK in OSA? | 16:48 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me: it] | 16:48 |
cloudnull | bah... | 16:48 |
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cloudnull | odyssey4me it'd be great if there was such a role. the one from Elastic seems neglected. | 16:49 |
cloudnull | however the playbooks in the ops repo does do clustering | 16:49 |
odyssey4me | ja, I found a few that looked reasonable - but didn't spend enough time evaluating them properly | 16:49 |
odyssey4me | if there really isn't a good one, then perhaps we could curate one | 16:49 |
cloudnull | I have a 5 node cluster humming along, I think jrosser has something similar | 16:50 |
odyssey4me | very cool :) | 16:50 |
cloudnull | I do think it'd be great get some user stories published around these tools in the ops repo | 16:50 |
cloudnull | its a bit tribal knowledge at this time | 16:50 |
jrosser | yes, i just rolled the ops repo stuff straight out | 16:50 |
jrosser | i have some pending reviews to make it better in queens, it's very journal oriented atm | 16:51 |
cloudnull | #action cloudnull to review the open prs to the ELK bits in the ops repo | 16:51 |
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cloudnull | anything else we want to talk about regarding the ops things? | 16:52 |
cloudnull | any other topics of conversation we want to tackle right now | 16:52 |
d34dh0r53 | Yeah, the ELK spec is basically being handled in the ops repo at this point, although I think we should consider moving it out given the nature of the ops repo :) | 16:52 |
d34dh0r53 | Or do some more thorough reviews of commits to the ops repo | 16:53 |
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odyssey4me | well, actually we'll discuss this at the PTG, but I think we should not move anything into the integrated repo unless it's openstack and we should use user-stories and the ops repo for non-openstack things | 16:53 |
cloudnull | we cloud host the ELK things outside of the openstack namespace, or potentially setup a selective CI within ops repo to better test some of the components ? | 16:53 |
odyssey4me | otherwise the integrated repo just get jammed with more and more things which really have very little to do with the deployment of openstack | 16:54 |
d34dh0r53 | Yes odyssey4me I totally agree, perhaps more CI in ops is the answer | 16:54 |
d34dh0r53 | CI + documentation :) | 16:54 |
cloudnull | ok lets move on to cover some of these open bugs | 16:55 |
odyssey4me | yep, seems better to me - a basic high level view in user stories with a referral to the ops repo which contains stuff useful for multiple series | 16:55 |
cloudnull | #topic Bug Triage | 16:55 |
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cloudnull | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible | 16:56 |
cloudnull | first up https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1773925 | 16:56 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1773925 in openstack-ansible "ceph_client: client commands should be executed by non-root user" [Undecided,New] | 16:56 |
cloudnull | looks like we need to do some work in the ceph client role to remove root assumptions | 16:57 |
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odyssey4me | well, that's true for all our playbooks actually | 16:57 |
cloudnull | I'm thinking wishlist | 16:58 |
cloudnull | given the fact we know root is documented as a requirement at this point. | 16:58 |
cloudnull | ok nextr | 17:00 |
cloudnull | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1773854 | 17:00 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1773854 in openstack-ansible "Package rdo-release-queens is not signed" [Undecided,New] | 17:00 |
cloudnull | I think there was some chatter in the channel for this today ? | 17:01 |
cloudnull | something we know about ? | 17:01 |
cloudnull | mnaser ^ ? | 17:02 |
cloudnull | I'm inclined to mark this incomplete, but i really don't know given that I dont do much with cent | 17:03 |
cloudnull | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/latest.log.html#t2018-05-29T08:32:23 | 17:04 |
cloudnull | maybe related? | 17:04 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me >? | 17:04 |
odyssey4me | sorry, had to go to the door then the dog ran out :p | 17:05 |
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odyssey4me | I have no idea - not much info provided there - no branch/tag/whatever | 17:07 |
cloudnull | yea, asked for more details. | 17:07 |
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cloudnull | moving on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1773793 | 17:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1773793 in openstack-ansible "User Guide in OpenStack-Ansible has wrong IP address for haproxy_keepalived_internal_vip_cidr " [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
odyssey4me | I don't really know whether that's right or not, personally. I don't know much about how that all works. | 17:08 |
odyssey4me | The var says it's a CIDR, so it seems to me the docs are right? | 17:09 |
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cloudnull | I think the examples are being interpreted as literals | 17:09 |
cloudnull | we might need to add some words around that. | 17:09 |
cloudnull | looks like there's a patch provided in the bug text | 17:09 |
odyssey4me | if it works and makes people understand better, then LGTM and seems like a low-hanging-fruit thing | 17:10 |
cloudnull | ++ | 17:10 |
odyssey4me | the docs source those example files, but obviously the bug reporter doesn't know that :p | 17:10 |
cloudnull | ++ confirmed and tagged | 17:11 |
cloudnull | next https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1772778 | 17:11 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1772778 in openstack-ansible "skipping: no hosts matched" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570960 | 17:12 |
cloudnull | I assume this is something to do with the openstack_user_config | 17:12 |
cloudnull | if it works with a couple hosts then it stands to reason that its generally "working" | 17:12 |
jrosser | will --limit to the host hit any of the containers at all? | 17:13 |
odyssey4me | it won't, and that's the issue here | 17:14 |
odyssey4me | I helped this guy out on friday I think | 17:14 |
odyssey4me | lemme find the eavesdrop | 17:14 |
mnaser | I think that’s an infra issue | 17:14 |
mnaser | Regarding the rdo stuff | 17:14 |
cloudnull | mnaser orly | 17:15 |
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cloudnull | something in the infra mirrors ? | 17:15 |
mnaser | No maybe like user déployer error cloudnull | 17:16 |
evrardjp | are we still talking about 1772778? | 17:17 |
cloudnull | oh, that makes a lot of sense | 17:17 |
cloudnull | yes | 17:19 |
cloudnull | marked incomplete and moving on :) | 17:20 |
evrardjp | I think it's invalid | 17:20 |
evrardjp | incomplete is fine for now | 17:20 |
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cloudnull | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1706301 | 17:21 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1706301 in openstack-ansible "nova-spicehtml5proxy.service is missing exec reload and task fail" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Major Hayden (rackerhacker) | 17:21 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/pike: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570909 | 17:21 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/queens: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/570907 | 17:21 |
odyssey4me | ok, for 1772778 there's a bunch of discussion between tux__ , myself and jrosser in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/%23openstack-ansible.2018-05-23.log.html | 17:21 |
cloudnull | cool | 17:21 |
odyssey4me | perhaps a ref to that is best added to the bug for context | 17:21 |
cloudnull | will add that the bug | 17:21 |
cloudnull | last one for the day is 1706301 | 17:21 |
odyssey4me | oh, when I tested a bunch of that some time ago - the vnc/spice proxies did not support reload | 17:22 |
evrardjp | ok | 17:23 |
odyssey4me | oh the real bug is further below - when you switch from one to the other, the old thing stays behind | 17:23 |
odyssey4me | I still think we should change it to run them all, and just have one as primary | 17:23 |
* odyssey4me adds that to my TODO for rage patching :p | 17:23 | |
tux__ | I think this has been resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1772778 | 17:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1772778 in openstack-ansible "skipping: no hosts matched" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:23 |
odyssey4me | but yes, it'd be nice for us to do clean-up if it's switched | 17:23 |
evrardjp | I still don't know how can it be done, but okay, I trust you won't break everything :) | 17:24 |
cloudnull | odyssey4me ++ I have to agree that having the consoles just be generally available would be ideal | 17:24 |
* cloudnull assigns bug to odyssey4me | 17:24 | |
evrardjp | :) | 17:25 |
cloudnull | ok thats enough bugs for the day | 17:25 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp they all listen on different ports, so they can easily all run together | 17:26 |
cloudnull | #topic open discussion | 17:26 |
evrardjp | cloudnull: and the other bugs? | 17:26 |
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cloudnull | anything else we ant to talk about | 17:26 |
evrardjp | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 17:26 |
cloudnull | evrardjp they're there, we're kinda running short on time | 17:26 |
evrardjp | k | 17:26 |
cloudnull | ok, welp, with that, thanks everyone! | 17:27 |
cloudnull | Have a great rest of your day | 17:27 |
cloudnull | #endmeeting | 17:28 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 17:28:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2018/openstack_ansible_meeting.2018-05-29-16.29.html | 17:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2018/openstack_ansible_meeting.2018-05-29-16.29.txt | 17:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2018/openstack_ansible_meeting.2018-05-29-16.29.log.html | 17:28 |
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guilhermesp | jrosser: I will certainly give a try to ELK stack of ops repos :) | 17:34 |
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spotz | evrardjp: Sorry to miss triage JP, it's not the link it's the text on the link. I'll get it fixed tonight, catching up on work work | 17:49 |
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evrardjp | spotz: oh i see | 17:56 |
evrardjp | who asked for graylog btw? | 17:57 |
evrardjp | cmart: | 17:57 |
evrardjp | darn | 17:57 |
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evrardjp | cmart: for graylog I didn't cluster mongo | 17:57 |
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evrardjp | if you cluster mongo it should be fine | 17:57 |
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odyssey4me | jrosser evrardjp cloudnull jmccrory logan- you may now be interested to know that ansible 2.6's openstack modules are now totally client free and rely only on the openstack sdk (shade merged into there recently) | 17:57 |
odyssey4me | I've pushed patches to stable-2.5 and stable-2.4 to document the python-novaclient requirement for the only two modules that need it, and pushed some backports to remove the requirement from the one in 2.5 that could easily convert. | 17:59 |
odyssey4me | here's hoping that all merges soon :) | 17:59 |
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odyssey4me | oh, actually I was only reviewing the nova related modules :p I haven't looked at all the others yet | 18:01 |
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mgariepy | mnaser, odyssey4me evrardjp here is the list of epel pkg on a default AIO install on centos, http://paste.openstack.org/show/722277/ | 18:08 |
mgariepy | on queens that is. | 18:08 |
odyssey4me | dmsimard ^ | 18:09 |
odyssey4me | we may be able to do without some of those, but I'd say that nginx is essential | 18:09 |
odyssey4me | thanks for taking the time to do that mgariepy | 18:10 |
dmsimard | mgariepy: no uwsgi ? | 18:10 |
mgariepy | it's config option on keystone. | 18:10 |
odyssey4me | hmm, yeah mgariepy can you check a cinder/neutron container | 18:10 |
dmsimard | otherwise it's nginx reverse proxy to eventlet ? | 18:10 |
odyssey4me | maybe do something like this: ansible -m shell -a "yum list installed|grep @epel && exit" all | 18:11 |
mgariepy | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone/blob/master/defaults/main.yml#L427 | 18:11 |
odyssey4me | we do definitely use uwsgi | 18:11 |
mgariepy | pip installed ? | 18:11 |
odyssey4me | ah of course, we're pip installing it | 18:11 |
odyssey4me | however, for the distro package install (not source) that will change | 18:11 |
mgariepy | yep. indeed. | 18:12 |
odyssey4me | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone/blob/master/vars/redhat-7.yml#L33-L42 | 18:12 |
mgariepy | odyssey4me, i listed all pkg on all containers. | 18:12 |
mgariepy | the other only had epel-release pkg installed. | 18:12 |
odyssey4me | dmsimard so add https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone/blob/master/vars/redhat-7.yml#L33-L42 to that list :) | 18:13 |
openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [DNM] Test profiling ansible tasks https://review.openstack.org/570993 | 18:14 |
evrardjp | mgariepy: odyssey4me dmsimard the worst is not nginx, as apache can be used, or directly using the uwsgi and the fast router with haproxy | 18:16 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp switching to using apache for the repo server will be a chore | 18:16 |
evrardjp | the worst is lsyncd (as long as we don't run with only 1 repo server) lxc-devel and aria2 | 18:16 |
dmsimard | ok so the sorted/uniq list of packages is http://paste.openstack.org/show/722285/ | 18:17 |
odyssey4me | dmsimard looks about right | 18:17 |
odyssey4me | we're negotiable on those, as we can work around the need for any of them - but if those can be included then it'd make our lives super-simple | 18:17 |
evrardjp | yea, I think some of those will never get merged into upstream RDO,like apt-cacher-ng :) | 18:17 |
odyssey4me | appreciate you reaching out and helping | 18:18 |
evrardjp | yeah that would be pretty dope. | 18:18 |
dmsimard | aria2 in epel is kinda old eh | 18:18 |
evrardjp | having aria2 is nice. | 18:18 |
dmsimard | 1.18 (2015) | 18:18 |
evrardjp | We can probably workaround it | 18:18 |
dmsimard | I'm just doing a first pass of looking at the packages | 18:18 |
odyssey4me | most of those nginx mods must be default deps or something, because I don't think we need them | 18:19 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: I guess same applies for Perl :) | 18:19 |
evrardjp | and lyx-fonts is probably a mistake | 18:20 |
odyssey4me | yeah, probably some sort of dep | 18:20 |
odyssey4me | agreed | 18:20 |
odyssey4me | those lxc libs might not be needed any more, given that we no longer build lxc-python2 | 18:20 |
dmsimard | lxc looks pretty out of date on el7 too | 18:20 |
mgariepy | IMO, if we only need epel on repo server it's not that bad as it's not as critical as other services, worst case we can whitelist only a few pkg from epel. | 18:20 |
odyssey4me | mgariepy good point | 18:21 |
evrardjp | yup | 18:21 |
evrardjp | mgariepy: but lxc- ? | 18:21 |
evrardjp | I thought that was required everywhere | 18:21 |
mgariepy | lxc come from thm-lxc2.0.repo on the host. | 18:21 |
xgerman_ | mmh, the open_suse gate fails with `btrfs: command not found`… | 18:22 |
evrardjp | what do you mean? | 18:22 |
odyssey4me | evrardjp yeah, the lxc we actually use is only on the hosts - and it comes from another repo | 18:22 |
evrardjp | ok | 18:22 |
odyssey4me | that lxc is only there to build the python lib, which we don't use any more | 18:22 |
evrardjp | yeah I was plannign to ask that :) | 18:22 |
evrardjp | odyssey4me: I like when you answer my questions in advance. | 18:23 |
evrardjp | :D | 18:23 |
odyssey4me | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/commit/41780d7afa91800fa2a6fce7295234c24654666f | 18:23 |
odyssey4me | :) | 18:23 |
odyssey4me | perhaps we should rather get an update package set from master, instead of this set from queens | 18:24 |
mgariepy | nice now we can blame a few ppl ;D | 18:24 |
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odyssey4me | hwoarang has done a great job of removing more and more unnecessary deps | 18:24 |
evrardjp | xgerman_: is that the only issue? | 18:24 |
evrardjp | xgerman_: could you paste a link? | 18:24 |
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mgariepy | it was intended as a joke. | 18:24 |
evrardjp | xgerman_: we had a few issues in gates | 18:24 |
mgariepy | sorry ;) | 18:25 |
xgerman_ | http://logs.openstack.org/44/558244/6/check/openstack-ansible-deploy-aio_metal-opensuse-423/a982bdc/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-29_15_55_02_283498 | 18:25 |
xgerman_ | I see the same error in both suse gates | 18:25 |
evrardjp | xgerman_: the issue is above | 18:25 |
evrardjp | I think that's the cmd2 issue | 18:25 |
odyssey4me | well, this is the first unblocker: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I35e3688ae632d5f7747f32dafc41d23883c033c5 | 18:25 |
evrardjp | because http://logs.openstack.org/44/558244/6/check/openstack-ansible-deploy-aio_metal-opensuse-423/a982bdc/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-29_15_53_39_969697 | 18:26 |
xgerman_ | ok - I was searching for Suse… | 18:26 |
odyssey4me | then this follows: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I1e259ce98fc8517c0cd00a04d6fe7b3f0703f5b4 | 18:26 |
evrardjp | dmsimard: oh btw mitogen is quite clever :p | 18:27 |
xgerman_ | thanks — time to recheck? | 18:27 |
evrardjp | xgerman_: not yet I think | 18:27 |
odyssey4me | once that's done, I'll be pushing patches to update the rally role to unblock the integrated build | 18:27 |
xgerman_ | ok, I forgot, I can now blame you for Suse ;-) | 18:27 |
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evrardjp | you can, it doesn't mean it will get fixed faster :p | 18:28 |
xgerman_ | lol | 18:28 |
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odyssey4me | any cores happy to review these backports: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Icf102a78fd0cf9aae3c09378235f2d91f7db8cdd | 18:28 |
evrardjp | omw | 18:29 |
odyssey4me | another one for the tests repo: https://review.openstack.org/568563 | 18:29 |
evrardjp | that's old, I thought I reviewed this already | 18:29 |
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odyssey4me | also, mnaser https://review.openstack.org/570552 :) | 18:30 |
evrardjp | also old | 18:30 |
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odyssey4me | evrardjp it's been a slow week with all y'all at the summit :p | 18:31 |
spotz | odyssey4me: Will look in a bit if no one gets to them first | 18:33 |
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evrardjp | odyssey4me: my bad, I wanted to review there, but I realize it's hard to even do that. | 18:34 |
dmsimard | So we're talking about 11 packages that would need to be rebuilt from EPEL, I filtered the list here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/722287/ | 18:34 |
evrardjp | I spent most of my time not on my laptop | 18:34 |
dmsimard | nginx and uwsgi appear to be the two more complicated ones | 18:34 |
evrardjp | dmsimard: is lxc-1. the right thing? | 18:34 |
evrardjp | I think lyx can be removed. | 18:35 |
dmsimard | evrardjp: lxc-1 is what EPEL currently has | 18:35 |
dmsimard | fedora has lxc-2 | 18:35 |
odyssey4me | dmsimard skip the lxc packages, we don't need them - we use the lxc 2 copr | 18:37 |
odyssey4me | hey, if you want to pull those in, that'd be fantastic | 18:38 |
dmsimard | copr on centos ? :D | 18:38 |
dmsimard | oh wait I was thinking of something else | 18:38 |
dmsimard | I'll take out LXC then. | 18:38 |
odyssey4me | dmsimard https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/blob/master/defaults/main.yml#L230-L233 | 18:39 |
odyssey4me | the copr is slow, but it's not conflicting with RDO, so it's not really an issue | 18:39 |
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dmsimard | ok | 18:39 |
dmsimard | what about lyx ? | 18:39 |
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odyssey4me | I think those extra packages being installed from EPEL is some legacy which won't matter for rocky onwards | 18:39 |
odyssey4me | no idea where that's from - I'd like to know how it got there and what needs it, but I doubt it's necessary | 18:40 |
odyssey4me | it's very likely some weird dep, so leave it out | 18:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/queens: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570928 | 18:41 |
odyssey4me | the perl packages are likely much the same - some extra dep, so leave them out unless they happen to come with uwsgi/nginx | 18:41 |
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dmsimard | maybe they are deps of other packages, yes | 18:42 |
dmsimard | we often get rabbit holed that way | 18:43 |
dmsimard | oh hey just 1 package to build and then you realize it needs deps which aren't packaged and those deps need other deps.. | 18:43 |
odyssey4me | yeah | 18:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_rally stable/pike: Pin cmd2 to the last python2 version of the library https://review.openstack.org/570929 | 18:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/queens: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/571000 | 18:47 |
dmsimard | odyssey4me, evrardjp, hwoarang, mgariepy: https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/dev/2018-May/008735.html | 18:48 |
dmsimard | mnaser: ^ fyi | 18:49 |
evrardjp | thanks dmsimard :) | 18:50 |
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dmsimard | np, just keeping the wheels turning | 18:50 |
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evrardjp | jmccrory: how are things? | 18:52 |
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evrardjp | I am thinking of ansible 2.5 support and uwsgi fast router right now, but I don't have the bw to work on it. Also preeeeeeeetty tired rn. | 18:53 |
evrardjp | but jmccrory_ just netsplitted :( | 18:53 |
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odyssey4me | brilliant thanks dmsimard :) | 18:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/pike: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/571002 | 19:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-repo_build stable/ocata: Update repo_build test-vars data https://review.openstack.org/568812 | 19:04 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/queens: Use upper constraints when installing ARA https://review.openstack.org/571000 | 19:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-repo_build stable/queens: Update repo_build test-vars data https://review.openstack.org/568809 | 19:08 |
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prometheanfire | A/win 23 | 19:08 |
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odyssey4me | prometheanfire time to change that password ;) | 19:10 |
openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/ocata: Update os_rally role SHA for cmd2 package pin https://review.openstack.org/571003 | 19:10 |
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odyssey4me | evrardjp ok, I think https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I5f20a130032e1b65dc78828344345515975da4dc should bring us to a releasable state | 19:10 |
prometheanfire | odyssey4me: window 23 in irssi? | 19:11 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-tests stable/queens: common-tasks: Do not sync preconfigured /etc/pip.conf file https://review.openstack.org/568563 | 19:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/queens: Pin ARA for Queens https://review.openstack.org/570916 | 19:16 |
tux_ | Stupid question in openstack-ansible we have 3 glance container running on 3 infra node, but when you upload image it will goes to one of them or get sync to all of them? | 19:17 |
odyssey4me | tux_ it depends on the backend storage for the images | 19:18 |
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odyssey4me | if you're using ceph/swift then it's stored across those clusters | 19:18 |
hwoarang | dmsimard: thanks for driving this | 19:18 |
odyssey4me | if you're using nfs, then it's on the nfs store | 19:18 |
hwoarang | dmsimard: we also need uwsgi-plugin-python | 19:18 |
odyssey4me | if you're using file, then it's only on one node | 19:18 |
hwoarang | dmsimard: but honestly i am not a centos guy so i can't immediately tell what we are consuming from epel :/ | 19:18 |
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dmsimard | hwoarang: uwsgi-plugin-python is a subpackage from uwsgi | 19:19 |
hwoarang | i guess we could add what we know, and keep adding more as we see new problems | 19:19 |
hwoarang | ah great then | 19:19 |
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dmsimard | by building uwsgi we get that automatically | 19:19 |
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tux_ | odyssey4me: I didn't specified in installation so what will be default? | 19:20 |
hwoarang | dmsimard: if you need some extra info feel free to CC me on the thread | 19:20 |
tux_ | what is the best practice in prodiction? | 19:20 |
odyssey4me | tux_ do you have swift in your build? | 19:20 |
odyssey4me | tux_ there's a whole architecture section in the docs talking to this | 19:20 |
tux_ | My application doesn't need storage, all we doing crunching CPUs. | 19:21 |
odyssey4me | tux_ https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/reference/architecture/storage-arch.html | 19:21 |
tux_ | so i need some good advice what should i do here ? | 19:21 |
odyssey4me | TLDR you should used shared storage | 19:21 |
tux_ | odyssey4me: we don't have swift | 19:21 |
dmsimard | hwoarang: sure | 19:22 |
tux_ | odyssey4me: and i don't think we need swift ever | 19:22 |
odyssey4me | tux_ best situation then is to use a simple NFS server for shared image storage | 19:22 |
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tux_ | so just mount that NFS on Host machine or inside container? | 19:23 |
odyssey4me | or implement your own way to sync the glance file storage between infra nodes - until now no-one has pushed up a patch to do something for that situation | 19:23 |
odyssey4me | tux https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible/latest/user/prod/example.html describes a sample of how to implement the nfs storage | 19:24 |
tux_ | odyssey4me: so you are saying just sync /var/lib/glance folder across all infra nodes? | 19:24 |
odyssey4me | well, not the storage itself, but rather how to implement the config to use nfs sotrage | 19:24 |
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odyssey4me | tux_ honestly I have no idea - it's plausible that some sort of lsyncd/rsync thing may work quite nicely if done right... but I've never had the time to put into it | 20:03 |
johnsom | Sigh, https://review.openstack.org/570914 bombed out again | 20:20 |
johnsom | Looks like the metadata server bombed with a 500 | 20:21 |
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odyssey4me | johnsom to buy some time, I've proposed patches to the stable branches based on that anyway: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I5f20a130032e1b65dc78828344345515975da4dc | 20:34 |
odyssey4me | but yeah, looks like tempest is failing due to something unrelated which may need to be resolved | 20:35 |
johnsom | They look to be similar issues to what xgerman was hitting before | 20:35 |
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odyssey4me | johnsom yep, that new library has had quite a few knock on effects across openstack | 20:50 |
odyssey4me | *new library release | 20:50 |
odyssey4me | any help to figure out what's going on for master is welcome | 20:52 |
odyssey4me | I'm out for the night - cores, please keep an eye out on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I5f20a130032e1b65dc78828344345515975da4dc and if you have time to dig into any failures and report them, please do - otherwise review so that we can release a working thing | 20:53 |
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openstackgerrit | David Wilde proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-ops master: Adjust DHCP range so that nodes can take static address from pool https://review.openstack.org/571033 | 21:52 |
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d34dh0r53 | cloudnull: you around? | 22:05 |
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d34dh0r53 | if there are any cores around a review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571033/ would be awesome | 22:24 |
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cloudnull | d34dh0r53 looking | 23:11 |
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d34dh0r53 | cloudnull: thanks man | 23:34 |
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