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| bhyrted | So included http://paste.openstack.org/show/789062/ and still not creating lxc containers infra*cloudkitty, how can i debug it? | 06:52 |
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| jrosser | bhyrted: that’s in env.d? have you also defined cloudkitty_hosts in openstack_user_config.yml? | 06:56 |
| bhyrted | yup | 06:57 |
| bhyrted | also when i look at enviroment i see http://paste.openstack.org/show/789086/ | 06:57 |
| bhyrted | however no containers, before i used example env.d from cloudkitty repository, not one that you gave me | 06:58 |
| bhyrted | and i think that might mess something up | 07:10 |
| jrosser | oh, right :) | 07:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/train: Mark ubuntu distro and debian stretch as non voting https://review.opendev.org/704978 | 07:34 |
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| mnaser | man i wonder if we should just get rid of all of our include_tasks and have one big main.yml lol | 07:51 |
| mnaser | jrosser: do you see multiple forks when running OSA playbooks and using something like -f25 ? | 07:54 |
| jrosser | you mean does it actually try to run 25 things? | 07:56 |
| jrosser | I think we might have -f15 or similar because things got “wierd” above that | 07:56 |
| jrosser | mnaser: not sure exactly what you mean tbh but I can try some stuff when I get to the office | 07:58 |
| mnaser | jrosser: as in it seems like according to ps, only one or two ansible-playbook forks are running.. | 07:58 |
| mnaser | and i wonder if thats our connection or strategy plugin mudding things | 07:58 |
| mnaser | im going to try running openstack-hosts without our plugins and see what happens | 07:59 |
| jrosser | yeah, that would be interesting | 07:59 |
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| mnaser | jrosser: sigh, i think something has to do with a large # of facts or something | 08:07 |
| mnaser | it is fast until it collects facts | 08:07 |
| mnaser | i had to disable fact caching to make it decently fast | 08:07 |
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| jrosser | mnaser: I wonder if all of the strategy stuff is still beneficial, it’s rooted in very old ansibles | 08:15 |
| mnaser | jrosser: yeah i wonder if ansible just natively makes this better | 08:15 |
| mnaser | id love for us to kill them and then replace our connection plugin by mitogen but | 08:15 |
| mnaser | ENOTIME | 08:16 |
| jrosser | maybe also we re-introduce a bunch of fact gathering over time too | 08:18 |
| jrosser | it used to be done as minimally as possibles | 08:18 |
| bhyrted | jrosser: any idea where to clear "old" cloudkitty values? I think i should clear inventory cloudkitty related values, anywhere else? ;-) thanks for your help | 08:19 |
| jrosser | bhyrted: there is a tar file in /etc/openstack_deploy of previous inventories which you can pick through | 08:20 |
| bhyrted | yup, thanks | 08:20 |
| jrosser | or use scripts/inventory_manage.py to delete inventory items | 08:20 |
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| jrosser | just take care if you have any investment in the deployment :) | 08:21 |
| jrosser | it’s quite a smart move to “git init” in /etc/openstack_deploy and commit the state before you do anything major | 08:22 |
| mnaser | jrosser: yeah there's a lot of performance tuning to be done | 08:25 |
| mnaser | btw also i found out the utility symlinking is broken | 08:25 |
| mnaser | if there's already a symlink | 08:25 |
| mnaser | it doesnt update it | 08:25 |
| jrosser | yes for the clients? | 08:25 |
| jrosser | I’ve seen that -ENOTIME ago to :/ | 08:26 |
| mnaser | yep | 08:26 |
| mnaser | https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/modules/file_module.html looking here nothing stands out | 08:26 |
| jrosser | I think the logic just looked wrong in our ansible, but I’ll need to go back and look again | 08:27 |
| mnaser | ah crap | 08:27 |
| mnaser | we're using shell to do this | 08:27 |
| jrosser | yeah i remember looking and it being /facepalm but not having time to fix it | 08:28 |
| mnaser | we check if the target file exists (it does) and if the /usr/local/bin path does not exist then it does it | 08:28 |
| mnaser | where in reality ideally it should check if /usr/local/bin is a symlink pointing to $target or not | 08:28 |
| mnaser | we should probably generate a fact list with bin name | 08:29 |
| mnaser | and use the ansible file module | 08:29 |
| mnaser | but /me in the middle of an upgrade | 08:29 |
| jrosser | I think that’s exactly what happened to me :) there was something else on fire at the time | 08:30 |
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| mnaser | noonedeadpunk / guilhermesp | 08:31 |
| mnaser | ^ something to look at once you have some free cycles | 08:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server master: Add support for extra VIPs with TLS enabled https://review.opendev.org/705228 | 09:46 |
| jrosser | mnaser: i wonder if there are generally more processes now that we're using uwsgi | 10:41 |
| jrosser | like here https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder/blob/master/defaults/main.yml#L349 | 10:41 |
| jrosser | we do processes=vcpu*2 everywhere, and the older code seems to have a lot of vcpu//2 in it | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Magnus Bergman proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server master: Align the usage of the two extra lb vip parameters https://review.opendev.org/705636 | 11:39 |
| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: I think we take either vcpu*2 or 16 - whatever is less. | 11:41 |
| noonedeadpunk | in most cases 16 is less... but yes - it might be too much actually | 11:41 |
| jrosser | i was just comparing against things like this https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_cinder/blob/master/defaults/main.yml#L211 | 11:42 |
| jrosser | things are probably generally OK with giant controller nodes | 11:42 |
| jrosser | but i think stuff isnt scaling down sufficuently for smaller hosts | 11:43 |
| noonedeadpunk | it also requires ram - not only cpu actually... | 11:43 |
| jrosser | i have a lab with 4C8T infra nodes, so even on those vcpu*2 is 16 | 11:43 |
| noonedeadpunk | maybe we need to define some global max which will be used across all the roles? | 11:44 |
| noonedeadpunk | so you can simply set it to 8 or 4.. | 11:44 |
| jrosser | yeah i was thinking about that | 11:44 |
| jrosser | and then vcpu vs ansible_processor_count, if it's really right to treat hyperthreads as equivalent to a full CPU for this | 11:45 |
| noonedeadpunk | mnaser: can you point me to the symlinking stuff as I didn't catch what exactly did you mean | 11:46 |
| jrosser | ^ it's vcpu count which makes even my tiny controllers hit the max 16 processes, so it's probably not working really as we intend right now | 11:46 |
| noonedeadpunk | yah I think you're right about it. probably iit would work if we had limitations of vcpu per lxc container... | 11:47 |
| jrosser | the symlink thing is here https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/playbooks/utility-install.yml#L130-L146 | 11:48 |
| noonedeadpunk | oh my | 11:48 |
| jrosser | it creates them on first install just fine, but when the clients get updated the symlinks stay pointing to the old stuff | 11:48 |
| jrosser | i think that the main way of improving that code is to just delete it | 11:50 |
| jrosser | and start again with actual ansible | 11:50 |
| noonedeadpunk | ++ | 11:50 |
| noonedeadpunk | wrote down into todo list on the first place | 11:53 |
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| * fridtjof[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/dYYRXYBvOKgOPDCRruINlSOX > | 13:25 | |
| fridtjof[m] | Or is it fine to do it after upgrading to Stein? | 13:25 |
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| ebbex | fridtjof[m]: You'll need to get all your hosts from xenail to bionic while on the rocky release. Once all your machines are bionic, you can proceed with upgrading to stein. | 13:31 |
| fridtjof[m] | I see, thanks for clearing that up. It was a bit confusing to me, because the Stein release notes also announced Bionic support for the first time | 13:33 |
| ebbex | fridtjof[m]: Yup, the stein release notes has a bit to much copy/paste from the previous release notes :/ | 13:34 |
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| fridtjof[m] | ...OH | 13:37 |
| fridtjof[m] | you were not joking | 13:37 |
| fridtjof[m] | is that literally just the rocky release notes?? | 13:37 |
| fridtjof[m] | well, where do I even find out what changed in stein then | 13:37 |
| ebbex | You look at the rocky release notes, and anything already there, you can (probably) disregard in stein. | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance master: Reduce number of processes on small systems https://review.opendev.org/705680 | 13:38 |
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| fridtjof[m] | oh boy | 13:41 |
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| jrosser | it's probably a systemactic problem with how the releases are made | 13:46 |
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| jrosser | need more eyes/reviews on these tempest install patches for train | 14:22 |
| jrosser | stuff is breaking faster than we are merging stuff which can fix it | 14:22 |
| jrosser | oslo.concurrency now breaks centos on train | 14:23 |
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| fridtjof[m] | Another question, because it wasn't clear from the deployment guide. | 14:26 |
| fridtjof[m] | Are Glance images replicated across control/infrastructure nodes? | 14:26 |
| fridtjof[m] | (or is there any way to achieve that easily?) | 14:27 |
| jrosser | fridtjof[m]: it is up to you to choose a storage backend for galnce | 14:28 |
| jrosser | if you do a very simplistic config using local storage then there is no replication and you can't really do a H/A deployment | 14:28 |
| jrosser | something with shared storage like ceph and the replication is then implicit and you can do H/A for glance | 14:29 |
| fridtjof[m] | ah, makes sense | 14:29 |
| fridtjof[m] | i just found the appropriate section in user_variables | 14:29 |
| fridtjof[m] | i guess i didn't think about that too much when doing the initial deployment %) | 14:30 |
| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: oh my... maybe just... recheck ?:) btw we need defining it in gate section... | 14:31 |
| noonedeadpunk | like it was for patchset2 | 14:31 |
| jrosser | :( | 14:31 |
| noonedeadpunk | since we're including templates | 14:31 |
| noonedeadpunk | and overriding defined there jobs | 14:31 |
| jrosser | yeah i thought i needed to override the template in both places | 14:31 |
| jrosser | i think i will make centos nv too becasue there is -1 on the requirements patch to pin oslo.concurrency for py2 | 14:32 |
| noonedeadpunk | me too... | 14:32 |
| jrosser | this is only temporary whilst we merge the patch to use the right constraints for train | 14:32 |
| noonedeadpunk | yeah | 14:32 |
| noonedeadpunk | we were merging too slowly lol | 14:32 |
| jrosser | yup | 14:33 |
| jrosser | they caught up with me :) | 14:33 |
| jrosser | i think anywhere we are accidentally using master u-c (or none) on stable branches is going to go bad | 14:35 |
| jrosser | logan-: are you sure about these voting: false not being needed in the gate job? | 14:41 |
| jrosser | afaik i am having to override whats in the template for check and for gate | 14:42 |
| logan- | I think you’re right, didn’t realize those jobs were coming from the template. Yeah that’s probably the easiest way to override the template. Sorry! | 14:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/train: Mark ubuntu distro and debian stretch & centos as non voting https://review.opendev.org/704978 | 14:45 |
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| jrosser | logan-: no worries, things are getting fairly hilarious on stable/train right now :) | 14:46 |
| logan- | yeah :/ | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/train: Use contraints for tempest plugins https://review.opendev.org/704980 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/train: Always use virtualenv and pip to install tempest on Ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/705336 | 14:50 |
| noonedeadpunk | just rebases | 14:50 |
| jrosser | cool thanks | 14:50 |
| jrosser | logan-: do you have any thoughts on this, seems the selection of number of processes doesn't really do much until you have exceedingly small hosts https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705680/ | 14:53 |
| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: don't we missed ansible_processor_vcpus default? Like before it was suggested as possibly undefined... | 14:54 |
| noonedeadpunk | however I think that gather_facts should handle it... | 14:55 |
| noonedeadpunk | ah, disregard | 14:56 |
| noonedeadpunk | misread braket | 14:56 |
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| jrosser | i was unsure about if to remove the *2 as well | 14:57 |
| jrosser | for uwsgi processes | 14:57 |
| noonedeadpunk | I think that at least max filter has no sence I don't think that result can be less than 1 | 14:58 |
| noonedeadpunk | in both cases | 14:58 |
| noonedeadpunk | regarding *2.... not sure it's needed either... | 14:59 |
| jrosser | a single core with hyperthreading gives 1//2=0? | 15:00 |
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| noonedeadpunk | jrosser: but vcpus is amount with HT? So if HT enabled, single core CPU will result in 2 vcpus? | 15:03 |
| jrosser | oh yes of course | 15:04 |
| noonedeadpunk | Or I'm mixing it with ansible_processor_cores ? | 15:04 |
| noonedeadpunk | so like 2//2=1 | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-ops master: Module config updates in ELK 7x Metricbeat template https://review.opendev.org/703754 | 15:06 |
| fridtjof[m] | hm, yet another question. | 15:07 |
| fridtjof[m] | https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ansible-os_glance/rocky/configure-glance.html#configuring-default-and-additional-stores seems to describe config for glance's (then experimental) multi backend support, no? | 15:07 |
| fridtjof[m] | however, glance does not seem to even expose that support (if the deployed version has it, even) in its API | 15:07 |
| fridtjof[m] | only goes up to v2.7 | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Douglas Mendizábal proposed openstack/ansible-role-atos-hsm master: Add HA (load balancing) support https://review.opendev.org/700018 | 15:48 |
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| noonedeadpunk | #startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 4 16:00:08 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is noonedeadpunk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting' | 16:00 |
| noonedeadpunk | #topic office hours | 16:00 |
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| noonedeadpunk | I think the main current problem is tempest on train | 16:15 |
| noonedeadpunk | which already has patches to fix (thanks jrosser) | 16:16 |
| jrosser | yeah thats the biggest thing to fix right now, i don't think we can merge anything on train or do a release till that is fixed | 16:16 |
| noonedeadpunk | yeah... | 16:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-ceph_client stable/train: Install virsh for Centos https://review.opendev.org/704556 | 16:24 |
| jrosser | there were a couple other things this week, uwsgi everywhere when it didnt need to be | 16:25 |
| jrosser | and i need to look at this resource/processes issue on smaller controllers to avoid OOM | 16:26 |
| jrosser | also centos8 seems to be getting some velocity on other projects so that needs another look | 16:26 |
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| mathlin | if i need to replace my soon to expire ssl-certificates, can i just run the haproxy-install.yml playbook after i have replaced my current certs/key where the old ones used to be? | 16:31 |
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| jrosser | mathlin: yes i think that should be fine | 16:44 |
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| noonedeadpunk | yeah centos8 is smth we should work on... Wondering if rdo already has packages for it | 16:46 |
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| jrosser | there was some stuff on the ML today, i was going to revisit my patch if i get a moment | 16:47 |
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| noonedeadpunk | hm, seems I've missed it? | 16:56 |
| * fridtjof[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KfbAwaZzqYwOMhywsaoKjWzJ > | 17:06 | |
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| admin0 | anyone has seen that 1/2 of your compute nodes deploy instances in a short time and the rest takes 3x longer ? got any suggestions for me to look into | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Do not append container_name for metal containers https://review.opendev.org/705778 | 17:23 |
| noonedeadpunk | #endmeeting | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/openstack-ansible || Weekly Meetings: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible || Review Dashboard: http://bit.ly/2xA1eZC" | 17:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 4 17:23:59 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2020/openstack_ansible_meeting.2020-02-04-16.00.html | 17:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2020/openstack_ansible_meeting.2020-02-04-16.00.txt | 17:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2020/openstack_ansible_meeting.2020-02-04-16.00.log.html | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [WIP] Centos-8 support https://review.opendev.org/689629 | 17:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ansible-role-atos-hsm master: Add HA (load balancing) support https://review.opendev.org/700018 | 17:44 |
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| fridtjof[m] | (sorry, i didn't realize there was a meeting. i guess i'm now forever part of it) | 17:54 |
| noonedeadpunk | Yeah, it's me who forgot to end it on time :p | 17:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/train: Mark ubuntu distro and debian stretch & centos as non voting https://review.opendev.org/704978 | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest stable/train: Use contraints for tempest plugins https://review.opendev.org/704980 | 19:47 |
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| Nick_A | admin0 any difference in configurations? cpu load? | 20:06 |
| admin0 | Nick_A, our nicknames match in wht also :) | 20:08 |
| admin0 | configs and loads are similar .. | 20:09 |
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| Nick_A | :) is it consistently slower on the same computes or does it vary? | 20:12 |
| admin0 | always slower | 20:13 |
| admin0 | i have like 10 different osa platforms for years now .. never had this issue .. and in this one, i am having a hard time to figure out | 20:13 |
| admin0 | i am thinking i will strace the hell out of every related process and compare | 20:14 |
| Nick_A | I'm no expert - just thinking of common issues we've seen | 20:14 |
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| admin0 | load 4 out of 40 threads, same ram usage . like only 20% of capacity, ceph backend | 20:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Use python3 to drop hosts file script where possible https://review.opendev.org/705849 | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Jonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [WIP] Centos-8 support https://review.opendev.org/689629 | 21:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server master: Align the usage of the two extra lb vip parameters https://review.opendev.org/705636 | 21:54 |
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