Tuesday, 2022-10-11

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noonedeadpunkdmsimard: yeah, distro path is validly broken until https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/+/860551 at least04:50
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jrosser_noonedeadpunk: looks like there is no UCA for focal / zed there06:33
jrosser_i'm sure there was some post to the ML about what would be supported from canonical but i don't find it06:34
noonedeadpunkyeah, I think that focal won't06:35
noonedeadpunkbut seems we even happen Y to be upgrade release06:36
noonedeadpunkwhich I wouldn't expect to happen even06:36
jrosser_so this means we have no distro installs at all for Z06:36
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Revert "Remove the neutron-fwaas since it retired"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/+/86090206:36
noonedeadpunkbut centos has bassed?06:37
noonedeadpunk*passed?06:37
noonedeadpunkAnd kind of matter if we want to switch to jammy06:38
noonedeadpunk*switch jobs06:38
jrosser_well that might be - but the support matrix says other things06:38
jrosser_and if we try eventually to remove this stuff06:38
noonedeadpunkthat can be other way around though06:39
noonedeadpunkI still not sure what's best. As distro way kind of nice selling point. As well as having bunch of distros. But you know how I tend to save all stuff I can :D06:40
noonedeadpunkJust painful to drop things for me06:40
noonedeadpunkI tend to ask on operator hours if anyone using distro path, why and etc06:41
noonedeadpunkbut if it requires close to 0 time on maintaining it and we clear about level of support of it...06:42
jrosser_well yeah - we still carry a bunch of jobs for lots of cycles that fail and are NV06:45
jrosser_and yes these can be fixed..... but so can other things like jammy/ceph or calico or ovn or......06:45
noonedeadpunkI think jammy/ceph main issue is absent repo for it06:46
noonedeadpunkSo I'm not sure how to fix that other then switch to ubuntu-provided packages from uca06:47
noonedeadpunkSo mainly I was jsut waiting if repo will appear one day before doing that06:48
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Drop VPNAAS overrides variables  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/+/86092207:02
noonedeadpunkjamesdenton: do you have any idea what is that?:) https://opendev.org/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/src/branch/master/templates/neutron.conf.j2#L211-L21407:12
noonedeadpunkI tried to look neutron docs until Pike and don't see mention of that section anywhere07:12
jrosser_noonedeadpunk: https://opendev.org/openstack/neutron/src/branch/master/doc/source/admin/vpnaas-scenario.rst#L3307:17
noonedeadpunkI have no idea how that is relevant. As vpnaas doc quite misleading. Btw thanks for reminding me about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron-vpnaas/+/850154 :D07:21
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Revert "Remove the neutron-fwaas since it retired"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/+/86090207:30
noonedeadpunkwell, it's in code kind of https://opendev.org/openstack/neutron/src/branch/master/neutron/conf/services/provider_configuration.py#L2907:36
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Revert "Remove the neutron-fwaas since it retired"  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/+/86090207:37
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jamesdentonnoonedeadpunk did you figure it out?10:00
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PTOI have encountered a strange problem with Cinder and large volumes with the Ceph RBD driver. I get an exception: Exception during message handling: cinder.exception.ImageTooBig - and as I understand, cinder tries to convert using a local share. Why does cinder do that?12:12
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noonedeadpunkPTO: what operation youre trying to do when get this error?12:17
PTOnoonedeadpunk: A user have uploaded a 100G image (for some unknown reason) and when he starts an instance from this image, it fails due to insufficient space on /var/lib/cinder/conversion on the infrastructure host. Is it "normal" to convert and write to disk before launching an instance?12:21
noonedeadpunkOk, yes, this is normal if image is not in RAW format12:22
noonedeadpunkBecause cinder with Ceph requires RAW, and if image is qcow or iso it must be converted to RAW first12:22
noonedeadpunkAnd if image is in ceph, and in raw, then operation of volume creation happens directly on ceph side12:23
noonedeadpunkSo actually options you have either using interoperable import in glance where it wil convert image to required format on upload, or mount some share, like cephfs to that folder12:24
noonedeadpunkso that you dodn't hit error and don't run out of space accidentally12:24
PTOnoonedeadpunk: It is a image on a ceph store. raw and containerformat bare12:28
PTOnoonedeadpunk: So I dont understand why it needs to convert it12:28
noonedeadpunkhm. then it should not...12:29
noonedeadpunkAs only when it does is image type != raw12:30
PTOnoonedeadpunk: I think its a snapshot from an instance, which is converted to an image and uploaded to glance12:31
PTOnoonedeadpunk: Could be the reason for it to be converted12:31
noonedeadpunkum... and snapshot from instance... and inctance was created with ephemeral drive? 12:32
noonedeadpunkand ephemeral storage is also on ceph or it was local storage?12:32
PTOnoonedeadpunk: We do not use local storage, but it could be ephemeral - not sure. This would make sense it would need to convert it then12:32
PTOnoonedeadpunk: Anyway, i expect the best solution would be to map and mount a scratch disk from ceph rbd for the conversion12:33
PTOnoonedeadpunk: Thanks for helping12:34
PTOI am planning an upgrade of our Ussuri cluster, which release to aim for?12:35
opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron master: Use ansible_facts[] rather than ansible_ variables  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron/+/86048012:35
opendevreviewJonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Define a group for ironic_console  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/86094713:24
opendevreviewJonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova master: Add nova_ironic_serialconsole_type default setting  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova/+/86094813:29
noonedeadpunk#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting14:03
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Oct 11 14:03:15 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is noonedeadpunk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting'14:03
noonedeadpunk#topic rollcall14:03
noonedeadpunkHm. Is it too early for meeting? :D14:03
jamesdentonhow'd your presentation go?14:04
noonedeadpunk#endmeeting14:05
opendevmeetMeeting ended Tue Oct 11 14:05:10 2022 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:05
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noonedeadpunkjamesdenton: I got alarm for meeting start on stage lol14:05
jamesdentonget to it, then!14:05
noonedeadpunkAnd I'm not happy really with myself. I was a bit relying on speaker notes that were not shown14:06
jamesdentonahh, that is tough. 14:06
noonedeadpunkwell, I guess it's 2 more hours till meeting?14:06
noonedeadpunkI don't know I got lost in summer time and time zones14:07
jamesdentoneasy to do this time of year14:07
noonedeadpunkAre you ready for yours?:)14:08
jamesdentoni hope so? lol14:08
jamesdentoni may have to sync with you afterwards14:08
noonedeadpunksure!14:08
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opendevreviewJonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Add ironic serial console to haproxy  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/86096014:58
noonedeadpunkmy laptop has almost discharged :(14:59
noonedeadpunkand don't see sockets around14:59
jamesdenton:|15:00
jamesdentonall done!15:00
jamesdentonwhen do you head back?15:00
noonedeadpunkHave flight at 7am15:00
noonedeadpunktomorrow15:00
noonedeadpunkso like in 10 hours I should be in airport or so15:01
noonedeadpunk#startmeeting openstack_ansible_meeting15:01
opendevmeetMeeting started Tue Oct 11 15:01:32 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is noonedeadpunk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_ansible_meeting'15:01
noonedeadpunkI will ask somebody to finish meeting as I won't be able to15:01
noonedeadpunkI think main thing what we should do - switch services to Z15:02
noonedeadpunkWe have https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/860549 but blocked by oslo release I guess15:02
jrosser_o/ hello15:03
noonedeadpunkWhich is https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/oslo.cache/+/86046215:03
noonedeadpunkOr we need just to add extra package to pip_isntall_packages for memcached15:04
mgariepyo/ hi15:05
noonedeadpunkAnd we have PTL next week - #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/osa-antelope-ptg15:06
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noonedeadpunkSorry, my laptop will turn off in couple of minutes. 15:08
noonedeadpunkOut of news - osa is a star on openinfra days :D We got some attention I believe15:08
NeilHanlonoooh15:08
jamesdenton:)15:08
noonedeadpunkAlso I've pushed revive patch for neutron fwaas revival - they got new release for Zed15:09
NeilHanlonnice. good call 15:09
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noonedeadpunkBtw Rocky for Yoga has merged15:11
noonedeadpunkI will propose bump and new release end of this week then15:12
NeilHanlonexcellent15:28
NeilHanlonwell, i suspect noonedeadpunk's laptop has since died.. anything anyone has to bring up?15:29
jamesdentonno, not today15:29
jrosser_nope15:31
NeilHanloncool :) no idea if I have permissions to do it, but i suppose we can end meeting?15:33
jamesdentonno idea, let's try15:34
jamesdenton#endmeeting15:34
jamesdenton¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:34
mgariepyhmm. :) meeting for the next few days then ;)15:34
NeilHanlon:D 15:36
mgariepywe will be able to do in after 60 minutes./15:37
mgariepybefore that chair needs to do it.15:38
NeilHanlonah, makes sense15:44
NeilHanlonwell, i'll try and remember lol15:44
mgariepygoogle is your friend here :D 15:44
mgariepy#endmeeting16:06
opendevmeetMeeting ended Tue Oct 11 16:06:46 2022 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:06
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opendevmeetLog:            https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/2022/openstack_ansible_meeting.2022-10-11-15.01.log.html16:06
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opendevreviewJonathan Rosser proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Add ironic serial console to haproxy  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/86096016:38
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