Wednesday, 2025-05-28

opendevreviewTakashi Kajinami proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest master: Remove support for sahara and senlin  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_tempest/+/95105301:33
opendevreviewOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95108505:31
noonedeadpunkgood morning08:29
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible stable/2025.1: [doc] Update doc for the stable branch  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95042808:29
noonedeadpunkthis was the patch to update docs for Epoxy ^08:29
noonedeadpunkI am going also to propose change change to the master branch to remove all this release history... And let's held discussion in there08:30
noonedeadpunkAs while we divert in term of release dates, I'm not sure how valuable to have that still08:30
opendevreviewDenys Mishchenko proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server master: Temp directory for pki certificates  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server/+/95110209:22
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [doc] Remove historical information from the index page  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95111310:45
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [doc] Add release codename to formal_name  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95111611:05
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [doc] Remove note about --file argument  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95112111:10
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [doc] Remove historical information from the index page  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95111311:18
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: [doc] Add release codename to formal_name  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95111611:21
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Do not require full git & autoconf on EL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95112411:43
opendevreviewMerged openstack/openstack-ansible master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95108511:47
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Do not require full git & autoconf on EL  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95112412:09
noonedeadpunkNeilHanlon: hey! around? As David seems to be not in channel now...12:41
noonedeadpunkAs I'm having a EL SIG mirror question12:41
noonedeadpunkparticularly - why this is empty https://mirror.stream.centos.org/SIGs/10/12:41
noonedeadpunkand I assume that 10-stream is a completely different one12:42
mnasiadka10-stream is the one you're looking for - there is only kmods for 10, since it's building against rhel10 kernels (and clones)12:51
mnasiadkathe ones under 9 are from pre-stream ages12:51
noonedeadpunkmnasiadka: I have a very weird feeling, that 10-stream will break badly on Rocky and EL12:51
mnasiadkawhat repos are you referring to? nfv sig?12:52
noonedeadpunklike plenty of stuff already does on 9 even, ie with late openssl 3.3 requirement12:52
noonedeadpunkI did not come that far :)12:52
noonedeadpunkhyperscale atm12:52
noonedeadpunkbut nfv is totally in the list12:53
mnasiadkawe've been using 9-stream nfv sig packages on rocky912:54
mnasiadkaI don't even know what hyper scale sig delivers :)12:54
noonedeadpunksystemd-networkd...12:54
noonedeadpunkwhich in 10 not part of main repos12:54
noonedeadpunklike it always was12:55
mnasiadkaah, we're using NM on EL912:56
mnasiadkaand we'll continue on EL1012:56
noonedeadpunkwe got fed up with each distro using their thing, and systemd-networkd works nicely and universally across all of them12:56
noonedeadpunkso yeah...12:57
noonedeadpunkI guess my kind of question was, if I should be expecting 10 to be populated and do logic for Rocky - use 10, for CentOS use 10-stream12:58
NeilHanlonmnasiadka and i were sorta having this discussion last week about some stuff...12:58
noonedeadpunkor just use 10-stream universaly, which feels very wrong12:58
* noonedeadpunk trailing behind a bit12:59
NeilHanlonit's probably OK to use the hyperscale stuff for el1012:59
NeilHanlonthe stream things, i mean12:59
mnasiadkaNeilHanlon: actually NFV SIG got a bit more lively, but I would feel more secure if we could rebuild OVS/OVN from RHEL FDP srpms ;-)12:59
noonedeadpunkmnasiadka: are you using EL for real?13:00
NeilHanlonoh did it? I didn't see any replies to your centos-devel message13:00
mnasiadkaNeilHanlon: no replies, but I noticed today new packages and commits to git.centos.org/rpms/ovn13:00
NeilHanlonah, that's good13:00
mnasiadkanoonedeadpunk: I am, commercially we support Rocky and Ubuntu13:01
NeilHanloni tend to agree it'd be safer to just go direct from FDP13:01
NeilHanlonespecially given the ABI compat issues we've seen with ovn stuff13:01
noonedeadpunkaha, ok, gotcha13:01
NeilHanloni think the systemd stuff is a bit safer, but could easily be rebuilt as well13:02
NeilHanloni'm technically part of both the NFV and HS sigs 13:02
noonedeadpunkyeah, so the reason why I decided to summon you13:04
noonedeadpunkjust started looking at Stream 10 locally and push something to begin withy13:05
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Add CentOS Stream 10 to molecule tests  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95113213:05
noonedeadpunkI also can recall you've built gluster for us... But can't recall where it was.. your CORP?13:05
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/ansible-role-systemd_networkd master: Add EL10 support to the role  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-role-systemd_networkd/+/95113713:21
mnasiadkanoonedeadpunk: I think we’re close to merging both glean and DIB stream 10 support13:26
noonedeadpunkthat would be extremely cool13:27
noonedeadpunkbut it feels quite a long way to get support to it :(13:28
noonedeadpunkWe're jsut not using EL anywhere, so prio for it's support is kind of arguable13:32
NeilHanlonyeah noonedeadpunk: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/neil/glusterfs13:33
noonedeadpunkthanks!13:33
noonedeadpunkomg, hyperscale contains more modern systemd then system and requires an upgrade...13:38
noonedeadpunkthis somehow very scary in context of stream and el13:39
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/ansible-role-systemd_networkd master: Add EL10 support to the role  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-role-systemd_networkd/+/95113713:40
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Add AIO bootstrap support for EL10  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95114013:41
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins master: Update supported platforms for host setup  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-plugins/+/95114213:46
NeilHanlonyeah.. i will say the hyperscale folks are good about not breaking things, but it _is_ a newer systemd13:49
noonedeadpunkok, I have another stupid question.....13:56
noonedeadpunkhow have that happened that a new gpg keys are uploaded to https://www.centos.org/keys/ but they have the same dates/ids?13:56
noonedeadpunkand are they compatible with Rocky 9 still...13:58
noonedeadpunkoh... so despite content is different, checksum is the same?13:59
noonedeadpunkwtf13:59
noonedeadpunknah, it's not same13:59
noonedeadpunkbut gpg signature is the same14:00
noonedeadpunkhttps://paste.openstack.org/show/bDzGFFzrL5l5yaEblvWr/14:01
NeilHanlonhuh...14:09
NeilHanlonmaybe someone exported w/ signatures?14:09
noonedeadpunkdunno14:26
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/ansible-role-systemd_networkd master: Add EL10 support to the role  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-role-systemd_networkd/+/95113714:50
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible master: Do not enable ebtables on modern kernels  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible/+/95116015:11
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts master: Add support for EL10  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts/+/95116115:12
opendevreviewDenys Mishchenko proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server master: Temp directory for pki certificates  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-haproxy_server/+/95110215:34
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367215:45
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367215:46
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367215:50
noonedeadpunkWell, this is not gonna work :( ^16:15
noonedeadpunkNeilHanlon: any guess where LXC has gone for EL10? And can yuou build lxc packages in your copr?:)16:18
NeilHanloni might be able to just get it in EPEL... let me see...16:19
noonedeadpunkthat would be amazing16:23
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not use distro templates by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/95117716:43
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367216:43
noonedeadpunkthis seems to work nicely in my AIO ^16:45
noonedeadpunkso if EL10 LXC will be added to EPEL - we'd better backport it to 2025.116:46
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not use distro templates by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/95117717:15
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not use distro templates by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/95117717:17
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367217:17
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367218:23
opendevreviewDmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts master: Do not install COPR repo for CentOS LXC  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_hosts/+/84367218:23
noonedeadpunkabout ^. Ubuntu, alike to Debian, does contain bunch of extra parameters for containers by default, before this patch18:42
noonedeadpunkie https://paste.openstack.org/show/bWW4OB6hfV7cqDes4SVe/18:43
noonedeadpunkbut centos and rocky do not18:43
noonedeadpunkthus, I have a question....18:43
noonedeadpunkfirst of all, this totally could contribute why inside of docker centos pam does not want to work18:44
noonedeadpunkbut also - do we want to bring them to default config? 18:45
noonedeadpunkas it looks like, we might not _really_ need them18:45
noonedeadpunkwow18:49
noonedeadpunkzuul has out-of-the-box graphs for jobs runtime now18:49
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