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| openstackgerrit | Douglas Mendizábal proposed a change to openstack/python-barbicanclient: Refactored Client to use Keystone Sessions https://review.openstack.org/127862 | 01:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Douglas Mendizábal proposed a change to openstack/barbican: Remove version from endpoints in catalog https://review.openstack.org/127865 | 02:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Douglas Mendizábal proposed a change to openstack/python-barbicanclient: Add sphinx docs https://review.openstack.org/127868 | 03:42 |
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| SheenaG1 | redrobot: pint | 14:52 |
| SheenaG1 | redrobot: ping* | 14:52 |
| SheenaG1 | Pint too. | 14:52 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 pong | 14:52 |
| SheenaG1 | I wanted to pick your brain on the docs a bit - do we definitively know how to publish incubated docs, what the cadence is, and whether we can publish mid-cycle if we are explicit about what isn't implemented in the official version? | 14:53 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 so, the impression I got from reading the "case study" that the docs team left about our project is that we are expected to be iterating through the docs during our Incubation cycles. The expectation from the docs team is that we're currently recruiting writers and starting to flesh out the docs, but it seems the only hard requirement as we work through the incubated cycle is that our Sphinx docs are being built out | 14:56 |
| SheenaG1 | For this next summit, though - we want API docs, yeah? | 14:56 |
| SheenaG1 | Is there a way to publish the docs we have in a "incubated docs" location from an OpenStack perspective? | 14:57 |
| SheenaG1 | I'd like to kill off the wiki if at all possible to reduce sources of truth | 14:57 |
| SheenaG1 | Or re-direct folks visiting the wiki to the official docs if they are published somewhere | 14:57 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 yes, as an incubated project we're expected to plug into the Sphinx docs plublishing mechanism for both barbican and python-barbicanclient. We're currenlty publishing the barbican docs to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/barbican/ | 14:58 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 I added a CR last night to get the ball rolling on the client sphinx docs. Once that's in, I can work with infra to get the client docs published as well | 14:58 |
| SheenaG1 | The Docbook docs are not Sphinx docs, correct? | 14:59 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 correct. The guideline was to use Sphinx docs for all our docs in incubation, and that once we graduate, we can start converting from sphinx to docbook and sending CRs to the docs team directly | 15:00 |
| SheenaG1 | So we now have Docbook docs that will not be consumed by anyone during incubation? | 15:01 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 however, the "case study" did mention our docbook docs, and they seem to be ok with us continuing down that path. I also think it would make it easier to move that stuff to the official docbook repos instead of having to convert from one format to the other later on. | 15:01 |
| SheenaG1 | But that still won't publish the docs, just move them for ease of use later. Yeah? | 15:02 |
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| SheenaG1 | Are Sphinx docs going to be the best (most accessible) type of docs for folks looking to do basic integration with Barbican at the summit? I want to make sure that we have docs that people can reference after they go thorugh the class | 15:03 |
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| redrobot | SheenaG1 yes, sphinx docs would be the most accessible. I think that should definitely be our focus for now. Moving stuff out of CloudKeep wiki and into Sphinx | 15:08 |
| SheenaG1 | And we will be able to point to them in a publicly accessible, OpenStack approved location? | 15:13 |
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| redrobot | SheenaG1 yeah, barbican Sphinx plublishes to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/barbican/ continuously, which is cool because it's in the openstack.org domain | 15:17 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 also we get to use the OS theme now with the Incubated flag turned on. | 15:18 |
| SheenaG1 | Sweet. Alright, I think that gets us an answer on docs then - sorry I couldn't quite process everything last week, GHC + time zone made my brain mush | 15:18 |
| SheenaG1 | AFAIK, the docs team is in no way responsible for the Sphinx stuff, is that right? | 15:18 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 That is correct, all Sphinx documentation is the sole responsibility of the Devs | 15:19 |
| SheenaG1 | Got it | 15:19 |
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| SheenaG1 | And for the client, when is the drop dead date for getting that guy out? | 15:19 |
| SheenaG1 | I saw your e-mail re: orders schema | 15:19 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 we need the client out asap... our current clien int PyPI does not work with RC1, which is already out. | 15:19 |
| redrobot | redrobot I should have cycles today to work on the orders stuff if you want to add that to the current sprint. | 15:20 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 ^^ | 15:20 |
| SheenaG1 | Fine with me, do we have any other client work? | 15:22 |
| SheenaG1 | I'm a little worried that we're still finding stuff - just from a timing perspective | 15:22 |
| redrobot | SheenaG1 I don't think so... other than Orders, it's looking pretty solid. We definitely need reviewers though. I have like 4 or 5 pending CRs now. | 15:23 |
| SheenaG1 | I'll pimp that during stand up | 15:23 |
| SheenaG1 | :-) | 15:23 |
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| SheenaG1 | reaperhulk: You around? | 17:00 |
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| redrobot | rm_work you around? | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-barbicanclient: Fix consistency between Order/Secret/Container https://review.openstack.org/124889 | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-barbicanclient: Remove outdated examples https://review.openstack.org/127035 | 18:25 |
| jaosorior | redrobot: ping | 18:30 |
| redrobot | jaosorior pong | 18:30 |
| jaosorior | Any interesting topics for today's meeting? Not gonna make it, too tired :/ but it's probably good to know | 18:31 |
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| redrobot | jaosorior good question. The only thing on the agenda is that Kilo development is open now. | 18:32 |
| redrobot | jaosorior https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 18:32 |
| jaosorior | Have the design talks been drcided for the summit? | 18:33 |
| redrobot | jaosorior not set in stone yet, but judging form the votes in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-kilo-design-sessions we'll have these three: | 18:34 |
| redrobot | Integration discussion with other OpenStack projects | 18:35 |
| redrobot | How to deal with multiple plugins over a system's lifetime? | 18:35 |
| redrobot | Common Certificate Issuance API | 18:35 |
| redrobot | And then reserve the last design session for Kite | 18:36 |
| jaosorior | Seems legit | 18:37 |
| jaosorior | I will this proceed to passing out, had a long day | 18:37 |
| jaosorior | Thanks for the info dude :D | 18:37 |
| redrobot | yep, everything else will be covered ad-hoc at our Pod | 18:37 |
| jaosorior | * thus | 18:37 |
| jaosorior | That makes sense | 18:38 |
| redrobot | jaosorior oh one more thing before you go! | 18:38 |
| redrobot | I'm about to fix up the Orders in the client | 18:38 |
| jaosorior | O_O | 18:38 |
| jaosorior | Oho | 18:38 |
| redrobot | thinking about different subclasses kind of like the way Containers are now | 18:39 |
| redrobot | SecretOrder | 18:39 |
| redrobot | CertificateOrder | 18:39 |
| redrobot | scratch SecretOrder, should be KeyOrder | 18:39 |
| redrobot | and AsymmetricOrder | 18:39 |
| jaosorior | Well, that could make sense, intend to push it today? | 18:40 |
| redrobot | possibly... or maybe push it up tomorrow... going to to address the comments in the Auth refactor first | 18:40 |
| jaosorior | If you push it today I could check it tomorrow morning | 18:43 |
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| rm_work | redrobot: I am around now | 19:41 |
| redrobot | rm_work ohai! | 19:41 |
| redrobot | rm_work would you +1 the auth stuff if I keep the option, but make v3 the default? | 19:42 |
| rm_work | redrobot: and ALSO try fallback? | 19:42 |
| rm_work | the try/catch was my real point, the fact that really v3 should be default was secondary | 19:42 |
| rm_work | but yeah | 19:42 |
| rm_work | well | 19:42 |
| redrobot | yeah, so the thing is the keystone session won't fail in an obvious way that will let us try/catch | 19:42 |
| rm_work | redrobot: darn | 19:42 |
| rm_work | ok, well then yeah, v3 becoming the default is good and i'd +1 that | 19:42 |
| rm_work | redrobot: well, did you read the comments in the other file? :P | 19:43 |
| redrobot | rm_work also, your patch merged, time for more cake! | 19:43 |
| rm_work | in the client commands, create/create/store is stupid | 19:43 |
| redrobot | yep, I hear ya, but I didn't touch any of that code for this CR so that's a battle for another day :-P | 19:43 |
| rm_work | T_T | 19:44 |
| rm_work | wish we could fix that before 3.0 | 19:44 |
| rm_work | since it's kind of a breaking change | 19:44 |
| rm_work | redrobot: I think I said I was going to switch to a Team Taco Day | 19:44 |
| redrobot | that's right | 19:45 |
| redrobot | we tried to Erick's today and were sadly greeted by a closed truck :( | 19:45 |
| rm_work | ugh I got a ticket finallly too this weekend -- need to replace my radar detector already | 19:45 |
| redrobot | apparently Erick doesn't like to work on Mondays | 19:45 |
| rm_work | redrobot: did you decide what you're doing about yours? | 19:45 |
| redrobot | rm_work nope, but I have to figure it out today. Leaning towards DD since it'll save me about $80 | 19:46 |
| rm_work | leaning towards my lawyer friend still because it'll save me 100% hassle | 19:46 |
| * redrobot wishes he had a lawyer friend | 19:46 | |
| rm_work | I mean, you can talk to this guy | 19:46 |
| rm_work | you snap a photo of the ticket, email it to him, and he deals with it | 19:47 |
| rm_work | and you send him like $200 in the mail or e-check | 19:47 |
| redrobot | meh, I could use the 10% insurance discount too, which is why I'm considering losing a day of my life to DD | 19:47 |
| rm_work | eh | 19:47 |
| rm_work | just do it online in the background of whatever else you're doing :P if you're going that route | 19:48 |
| rm_work | hmm, alee sorry about that -1, need to track down some Cinder people | 19:49 |
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| redrobot | barbican weekly meeting starts now in #openstack-meeting-alt | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arvind Tiwari proposed a change to openstack/barbican-specs: KMIP HSM plugin - placeholder https://review.openstack.org/128096 | 20:46 |
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| rm_work | you're going to have a nice integration design session, and it's not going to have any LBaaS representation :) | 21:00 |
| rm_work | thanks RS | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Wood proposed a change to openstack/barbican-specs: Add worker retry and future updates support https://review.openstack.org/128113 | 22:48 |
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