Thursday, 2014-11-13

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chellygel_alee, ping15:22
aleechellygel_, pong15:23
chellygel_i'm reading your identify cas spec... still a little confused about the conversation woodster was having with you in it15:23
chellygel_he mentioned the ca_id should be a UUID from barbican instead of preset in the plugin... is that correct alee ?15:23
chellygel_or am i misreading that15:24
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aleechellygel_, right -- I'm ok with that. let me pull up the spec15:25
aleechellygel_, which line?15:26
chellygel_105 alee15:26
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aleechellygel, ok - so I think I agreed that the ca-id could be a barbican uuid.15:28
chellygelthats what it sounded like, i was trying to understand context15:28
chellygeli get a little lost in your conversations haha15:28
aleechellygel, the SKI is supposed to be unique though and may be more valuable for a client15:28
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chellygelokay, another question alee -- the PCA is that a single entry for the entire table?15:29
chellygelessentially allowing only one preferred CA? or could there be multiple?15:29
chellygelah, wait projects -- so its multiple projects15:30
chellygelim bad at reading apparently15:30
aleeonly one preferred ca per project15:30
aleeso it will be a table with project_id as the primary key and ca_id as the entry15:31
chellygelgotcha15:31
chellygeli might ping you with more as im reading through15:33
aleenp15:37
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aleeredrobot, ping16:35
redrobotalee png16:35
aleeredrobot, I'm making a lot of progress with my rpm packaging16:36
aleeredrobot, now a question about barbican.sh16:36
redrobotalee good!16:36
aleeredrobot, so ...16:36
aleeif I look at barbican.sh install - I see we end up copying barbican-api.conf to the home directory of the user16:37
aleewhats up with that?16:37
alee # Copy conf file to home directory so oslo.config can find it16:38
alee    cp $LOCAL_CONFIG ~16:38
redrobotalee I think the idea was that barbican.sh would only be used for development16:38
redrobotalee it needs to be re-written for general-purpose use16:38
aleeredrobot, how can I get oslo.config to find the config file in /etc/barbican?16:38
redrobotalee that's an excellent question, unfortunaltey I don't know the answer to that.16:39
aleeredrobot, any idea who might know?16:39
aleeoslo/uwsgi experts?16:39
redrobotoslo folk should know for sure...  It _should_ be documented somewhere in oslo.config16:40
redrobotalee and just so that we're cleare, there is no hard dependency on uwsgi.  Barbican should be able to run within any web server with a WSGI container.  So it would be acceptable to remove that dependency from a general-use RPM.16:41
redrobotsome people may want to use nginx+gnunicorn16:42
redrobotor even apache+mod_wsgi16:42
aleeredrobot, understood -- I'm just trying to get it working to begin with.  I think we are likely to go with apache+wmod_wsgi16:42
aleefor the rhel/fedora rpms16:43
redrobotalee cool.16:44
aleeredrobot, there is a proposal out there to put all the openstack services in apache/mod_wsgi with specified urls16:44
aleeso we dont have to have tons of ports to manage16:44
aleeso barbican would be under /keys or whatever16:44
redrobotinteresting.  I think that could be easily achieved in the paste config16:45
redrobotbtw, did y'all see this? https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2014/11/12/introducing-aws-key-management-service/16:51
tiger_toesIt's a bit limited for now. *cough*16:52
openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/barbican: Added test to check that an expired secret cannot be retrieved  https://review.openstack.org/13429216:57
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openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/barbican: Added test to check that an expired secret cannot be retrieved  https://review.openstack.org/13429217:02
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aleeredrobot, ping19:35
redrobotalee pong19:36
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aleeredrobot, if I want to deploy barbican in apache using mod_wsgi , do I need some kind of barbican.wsgi file?19:36
aleeredrobot, just noticed no such file is created in the build ..19:37
redrobotalee I think so?  ...  not sure if mod_wsgi can use a paste file.19:39
aleeredrobot, ok - so its not something ya'll have tried yet19:39
redrobotalee nope.  we've been battling uwsgi since day one19:39
aleeok19:40
redrobotalee Chad was able to get it running without uwsgi in devstack, but his CR never merged.19:40
aleeredrobot, which cr was this?19:40
redrobotalee https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98490/19:41
aleeredrobot, so this is using eventlet?  or apache?19:43
redrobotalee looks like he's loading the WSGI app, and then using paste.httpserver to serve it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98490/14/bin/barbican_devstk_api.py,cm19:45
redrobotalee so it's an all python server.19:45
redrobotalee but I think setting up the wsgi app for mod_wsgi would be similar.19:45
aleeredrobot, paste.httpserver is yet another server?19:45
redrobotalee yep.  he was copying another service.  maybe keystone?  I think that's the server that DevStack services are using.19:46
aleeok - in that case, it might make sense for devstack at least ..19:47
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openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/barbican: Added test to check that an expired secret cannot be retrieved  https://review.openstack.org/13429220:28
openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/barbican: Added test to check that an expired secret cannot be retrieved  https://review.openstack.org/13429220:31
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rm_workreaperhulk: hey21:47
rm_workreaperhulk: would you do me a huge favor and look over this CR for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130659/21:47
rm_workreaperhulk: it's not Barbican, but it's a security thing, and I feel like you could provide useful feedback (like, YOU ARE DUMB DON'T DO THAT)21:48
rm_workreaperhulk: err, can be found more legibly here: http://docs.octavia.io/review/130659/specs/version0.5/tls-data-security.html21:48
rm_workbut the review would be where comments could go :)21:49
dstufftyay tls21:51
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aleechellygel, ping22:19
chellygelalee, pong22:19
aleechellygel, so does symantec support cmc requests?22:19
chellygelwhat is cmc alee ?22:20
aleechellygel, its a request format for cert enrollments22:20
chellygeldo you have an example? i can look into it22:20
chellygelnot familiar with that22:20
aleechellygel, this is relevant because rfc 7030 basically is a REST API around CMC requests22:21
aleechellygel, CMC requests defined in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5272#section-3.122:21
chellygelchecking their api docs alee22:23
chellygelif i am reading this right CMS => CMC22:25
chellygelsame thing22:25
chellygelPKCS7?22:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/barbican: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/13438122:27
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aleechellygel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_Management_over_CMS22:30
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chellygelalee, sorry for my ignorance -- im still trying to wrap my head around it22:35
aleechellygel, no worries - me too :)22:36
aleeback in a bit22:36
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