Thursday, 2014-12-04

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openstackgerritJeff Fischer proposed openstack/barbican: initial commit for DigiCert Barbican plugin  https://review.openstack.org/13819900:01
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openstackgerritJeff Fischer proposed openstack/barbican: initial commit for DigiCert Barbican plugin  https://review.openstack.org/13819900:24
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openstackgerritAde Lee proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add CA enrollment templates spec added  https://review.openstack.org/12937703:55
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jaosorioranybody here yet?13:18
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redrobotmornin' jaosorior15:03
redrobotjaosorior we're meeting on vidyo15:03
redrobotjaosorior https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican/Kilo#Kilo_Blueprint_Hangout15:03
jaosorioryeah... trying to install vidyo in archlinux15:04
redrobotjaosorior fun!15:04
redrobotjaosorior I was told this thing is multi-platform15:04
jaosoriorwell, arch has another package manager that is not rpm nor deb15:05
jaosoriorI'm extracting that shit and building a package myself15:05
jaosoriorhopefully it won't take long15:05
redrobot./make15:05
redrobot./make config15:05
redrobot?15:05
jaosoriormake? from where?15:05
jaosoriorthere is no source nor makefile in the rpm15:05
jaosoriorthat I can see15:05
redrobotwomp womp15:05
jaosorioris this vidyo thingy rackspace specific?15:06
jaosoriornever heard of it15:06
redrobotjaosorior nope... we buy it from some vendor.15:06
redrobotit's built on top of Google Hangouts15:07
redrobotso it's pretty solid15:07
dave-mccowanit's crashing on me when connecting.  i'm using a mac.15:08
aleeanyone else joining the blueprint hangout?15:08
jaosorioryeah, but does it have some rackspace specific stuff?15:08
redrobotdave-mccowan weird... I'm using a mac and it's working for me.15:09
redrobotjaosorior nope, it's all the vendor stuff afaik15:09
jaosoriorok15:09
jaosoriorthen maybe there is a pre-made package already15:09
jaosoriorlets's see15:09
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redrobotjaosorior https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vidyo/15:11
jaosoriorwas actually downloading this https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vidyodesktop/15:12
redrobotdave-mccowan any luck?15:14
openstackgerritSteve Heyman proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add spec to support running functional tests as different users  https://review.openstack.org/13572415:14
dave-mccowanmy mac os is old (10.7.5).  i'm going to try to install it on my phone.15:15
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jaosoriorOK... packaging it myself was more challenging than I thought, and the package from the AUR is not working... will try to fix this as soon as possible15:21
redrobotjaosorior ubuntu vm?15:22
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redrobotjaosorior https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13549015:29
jvrbanacjaosorior, you running into specific problems?15:33
jaosorioryup, audio had crashed15:33
openstackgerritSteve Heyman proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add spec to support running functional tests as different users  https://review.openstack.org/13572415:34
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openstackgerritSteve Heyman proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add spec to support running functional tests as different users  https://review.openstack.org/13572415:57
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redrobotjaosorior question:  For https://blueprints.launchpad.net/barbican/+spec/replace-concept-of-tenants-for-projects there's still work outstanding, right?15:59
redrobotjaosorior trying to figure it if I need to bump the BP to kilo-215:59
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jaosoriorthere is still work outstanding there15:59
jaosoriorbasically I15:59
jaosoriorall Iḿ missing is the migration scripts15:59
jaosorioronce I15:59
jaosoriorI'm done with those, then it's done15:59
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openstackgerritSteve Heyman proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add spec to support running functional tests as different users  https://review.openstack.org/13572416:04
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redrobotjaosorior 🍺16:21
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jaosoriorlol, I see ze beer16:21
aleedave-mccowan, so - I'll add you as an implementer for certificate-order-api?16:27
dave-mccowanyes, thank you.16:28
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aleedave-mccowan,  absolutely = thanks :)16:28
aleedave-mccowan, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/129048 as its related too, and we'll have to implement at the same time16:31
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aleejaosorior, if you want to implement the pre-encryption spec on the client, I won't object :)16:32
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redrobotalee I think we could split the pre-encryption BP into two parts... password-derived-key pre-encryption and then the escrow stuff16:33
aleejaosorior, to be honest though, I think implementing the cmc changes on the client side -- or in certmonger -- would be more useful in the short term.16:33
aleeredrobot, yeah - that sounds reasonable16:34
aleemakes a nice separation between all client -- and mostly client/server stuff.16:34
jaosorioralee: I could work on that but until january. Still having long discussions with the corporate overlords on why having a team of people working full time in open source is a good idea. But I'm actually seeing some progress in that now. Anyway, if that's OK, then I could take it up in January.16:35
aleejaosorior, sorry -- you can work on it till january (and possibly after) -- or you can't work on it till january (and possibly after) ?16:36
aleejaosorior, just trying to parse what you said :)16:37
jaosoriorhahaha damn, it has been a long day16:37
jaosorioranyway, in January (and beyond) I hope I can get some office time to work on Barbican16:37
aleeok cool :)16:38
aleejaosorior, does nokia have any interest in using barbican for anything in particular?16:39
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aleeor is it ericksson?16:40
jaosoriorEricsson haha16:40
jaosoriorwell, the people from Ericsson Network Security have expressed a lot of interest in it. Strategy for that still on the works. But so far they just say I should keep doing what I'm doing... Then the cloud division (I'm in a strange position in between two divisions) want me to keep contributing to OpenStack, but then they also want me to do feature16:44
jaosoriordevelopment for the product, stuff for the build environments and CI work.... and that is eating a lot of my time, since they prioritize that16:44
jaosoriorso yeaaaah, my days are long. But I'm hoping to be able to focus sometime soon :)16:46
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aleejaosorior, sounds like we're all in the same kind of boat :)16:47
jaosoriorIt's the way it is16:48
jaosoriorit'll get better16:49
jaosoriorand gooood pint always helps :P16:53
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dave-mccowanalee: In OSSG meeting they brought up Anchor (https://github.com/stackforge/anchor) that is a CA that provides short lived certificates for OpenStack PKI operations.  It was formerly known as the Ephemeral PKI.  This might be another desired back-end CA for Barbican.18:16
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alee_dave-mccowan, yup - it very well might be.18:41
alee_dave-mccowan, I think some of the HP guys here would be interested in writing a back-end plugin18:42
dave-mccowanalee_, no CMC in their API :-(18:42
alee_dave-mccowan, well - they can use the custom -- and they can always deconstruct a cmc request to extract the relevant bits18:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-barbicanclient: Defer loading Secret meta-data until requested  https://review.openstack.org/13649818:51
alee_dave-mccowan, also -- simple cmc = pkcs10 - and they have to support that.18:56
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alee_chellygel, ping20:09
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openstackgerritSteve Heyman proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add spec to support running functional tests as different users  https://review.openstack.org/13572420:18
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SheenaG1redrobot: ping20:43
SheenaG1alee_: chellygel is out until next Thursday20:43
redrobotSheenaG1 png20:43
redrobotSheenaG1 pong even20:43
SheenaG1redrobot: do you have the link handy for the Sphinx docs?  And is that considered current source of truth?20:43
redrobotSheenaG1 http://docs.openstack.org/developer/barbican/20:43
SheenaG1redrobot: we have an internal team asking for info, I wanted to make sure I gave them the latest and greatest20:44
redrobotyep, that is the source of truth... although it still points to the wiki in some pages20:44
redrobothttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/castellan/ is live20:46
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redrobotbtw20:46
redrobotSheenaG1 when you get a chance, take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138504/ ... the Integration goal post may be moving.20:49
SheenaG1redrobot: goal post moving how?  Date?  Or what we need to do for it?20:51
SheenaG1redrobot: good job on castellan!20:51
redrobotSheenaG1 So we're working towards being part of the "Integrated Release"  ... but if the above CR lands, there won't be any more "integrated release" :-\20:52
redrobotit's still unclear to me what that would mean for incubated projects...20:52
redrobotso we may get there and have there be no more goal post ...20:53
SheenaG1redrobot: you had a meeting with Thierry today, right?20:54
redrobotSheenaG1 yep20:54
redrobotSheenaG1 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-12-04-16.00.log.html20:55
SheenaG1So, we just autograduate?21:01
SheenaG1redrobot: like....free win?21:01
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redrobothaha, who knows?  ...  we may get the integrated "tag" ... or they may decide to invent new tags and give us one of those...21:01
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SheenaG1redrobot: that's...frustrating21:03
SheenaG1redrobot: mostly just because I don't know what we should do to be "accepted"21:04
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SheenaG1redrobot: is the python-barbicanclient info in the Sphinx docs?21:25
SheenaG1I don't see anything, but I'm also bad at English21:25
redrobotSheenaG1 no, not yet... I think I may have mis-configured the sphinx job for the client... or maybe it's still missing something.21:26
redrobotSheenaG1 I was expecting it to be published to docs.openstack.org/python-barbicanclient21:26
lisaclark_I was reviewing completed stories from last sprint and noticed these sphinx client docs were missing.  i dblchecked the gate jobs and i don't believe a docs gate job has been added or merged in yet for the client docs21:27
SheenaG1Hmmmm21:28
SheenaG1Do we still have stuff in the old wiki for it?21:28
SheenaG1Got another internal team looking for info21:29
redrobotSheenaG1 the docs are readable in GitHub, but some links are broken outside of a sphinx context https://github.com/openstack/python-barbicanclient/blob/master/doc/source/usage.rst21:29
SheenaG1Sweet, ty sir21:30
redrobotSheenaG1 yw.  I'll dig into why the docs aren't being published yet.21:30
SheenaG1redrobot: ty^221:34
SheenaG1redrobot: by the way, I was Vidyo-ing with Kurt and could totally hear your laugh in the background21:34
SheenaG1It was awesome21:34
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redrobotSheenaG1 lol ... literally :)21:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/barbican: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/13922422:35
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openstackgerritDouglas Mendizábal proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Trivial change to docs  https://review.openstack.org/13926523:31
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