Thursday, 2015-02-05

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openstackgerritVenkat Sundaram proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add Quota support for Barbican resources  https://review.openstack.org/13209100:18
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jaosorior:t face11:57
jaosorioruhm... mistake11:58
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woodster_jvrbanac, redrobot, rm_work, please review the quota bp when you can (it has two +2s) : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132091/14:51
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hockeynutwoodster_ ping15:08
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woodster_hockeynut: howdy15:13
hockeynutlooking at that bp above - seems we need to include something around hard delete as part of that bp.  Could be a nightmare for testing15:14
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rm_workwoah, don't know if i've seen this one before (quotas15:20
rm_work)15:20
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openstackgerritAde Lee proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Add spec for per-secret policy  https://review.openstack.org/12735315:39
alee_dinnerrm_work, woodster_ , ^^ latest version of per-secret spec ..15:40
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woodster_hockeynut: I think soft deletes should count against the overall number, but we will want a hard remove job to run periodically15:44
woodster_alee: will do15:44
woodster_alee: btw there is a latest quota spec up15:45
aleewoodster_, yup - will try get to it today15:46
aleewoodster_, don't forget my code CRs :)15:46
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hockeynutwoodster_ if we do that then we run into the very likely scenario that projects get "locked" after running tests and we don't have (yet) a way to unlock them15:52
rm_workwoodster_: yeah that's a little concerning, i would be frustrated if I deleted a bunch of secrets to make room on my account and then it was still full for no clear (to me) reason15:53
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hockeynutwoodster_ I think we need a BP for addressing deletes - soft vs hard and how to differentiate between the two15:53
hockeynutrm_work + oo15:54
woodster_If we don't count soft deleted resources then quotas don't work15:54
hockeynutagreed -15:54
hockeynutthe idea is to make it easier to hard delete15:54
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hockeynutand that would be set on a per-project basis15:54
hockeynuthence a BP to spec that all out15:54
woodster_The purpose is to prevent one project from muscling out other projects15:54
hockeynutI agree 110% - I think the issue isn't with quota BP but rather how to we update delete processing to make it behave better with quotas15:56
woodster_Well we have talked about talking about hard deletes in the past :)15:56
hockeynutwe have :-)15:56
hockeynutbut now they have a real world impact - someone may not be able to work because of them15:56
hockeynutif we have a flavor of delete that does a hard delete then the problem goes away because users have a way to really cleanup15:57
hockeynutbut not all deletes should be hard deletes - could be a rbac thing that folks can choose to use or not15:57
hockeynutdefault would be current soft delete15:57
woodster_hockeynut: I think in operation you'd set the limit high compared to avg usage and bump up on a case by case basis...but testing knocks that off axis a bit15:57
hockeynutcould also conjure up a real world usecase where things like secrets are constantly created/deleted and the result would be the same15:58
woodster_We've talked about a per secret or per tenant policy for this for sure. A initial step might be a hard delete exposed to cloud admins only...good for testing anyway?15:59
hockeynutmaybe this is an item to discuss on monday irc mtg?15:59
hockeynutwoodster_ admins - another question I have from reading this BP.  Seems its not using the admin for things like quotas but that makes sense as the place to do it16:00
woodster_Yep, can you add to agenda? I'm on phone/bus16:00
hockeynutcertainly16:01
woodster_hockeynut: cloud admin vs Barbican admin16:01
woodster_hockeynut: so a Barbican admin shouldn't be allowed to modify the quota for other projects16:02
hockeynutwoodster_ ah, gotcha16:02
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redrobothockeynut could also be good to discuss on the ML16:03
redrobothockeynut maybe other projects have good ideas on how to handle deletion16:04
woodster_My thoughts are that the Bp could land, and in parallel we settle the delete issue. Worst case we don't count soft deleted resources initially (should be simple query change) until we have hard deletes in place16:04
hockeynutredrobot sure - which ml?16:04
redrobothockeynut openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org16:05
hockeynutredrobot thx!16:05
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hockeynutwoodster_ that sounds reasonable16:06
redrobotKilo-2 is out https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-216:10
redrobotxaeth ^^ got a new release for your awesome packaging effort :)16:13
xaethredrobot, kew16:13
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xaethredrobot, that part has gotten nice clean and easy.  I'm working on all the dependencies right now16:19
xaethWrote: /home/greg5320/Development/barbican-spec/artifacts/rpms/openstack-barbican-2015.1.0b2-1.fc21.src.rpm16:19
xaethWrote: /home/greg5320/Development/barbican-spec/artifacts/rpms/noarch/openstack-barbican-2015.1.0b2-1.fc21.noarch.rpm16:19
xaethWrote: /home/greg5320/Development/barbican-spec/artifacts/rpms/noarch/python-barbican-2015.1.0b2-1.fc21.noarch.rpm16:19
xaethWrote: /home/greg5320/Development/barbican-spec/artifacts/rpms/noarch/openstack-barbican-worker-2015.1.0b2-1.fc21.noarch.rpm16:19
xaethWrote: /home/greg5320/Development/barbican-spec/artifacts/rpms/noarch/openstack-barbican-keystone-listener-2015.1.0b2-1.fc21.noarch.rpm16:19
redrobotxaeth sweet!16:19
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woodster_xaeth: nice!16:22
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openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Adds base behaviors, secret behaviors and the secret smoke tests  https://review.openstack.org/15177716:36
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openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: All of the containers behaviors and container smoke tests  https://review.openstack.org/15178717:51
openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Adds base behaviors, secret behaviors and the secret smoke tests  https://review.openstack.org/15177717:51
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xaethredrobot, woodster_ i got spun up trying to recover too many dependencies. Just paired it down and am hopefully finishing up the last one or two.  Seriously how did openjpeg2 become a dependency of openstack ? :/18:47
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xaethalee, do you know mcepl ?19:00
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aleexaeth, sounds familiar .. why?19:04
xaethmcepl seems to be the python-cryptography maintainer and that package doesn't want to pass its tests on el6. since they are having to solve the problem too i didn't want to waste cycles duplicating effort19:05
xaethjust tried to pm them19:05
aleexaeth, I didn't think python-cryptography was in rhel yet ... it just got into fedora19:07
xaethits not19:07
xaethhe's got an epel branch for it19:07
xaethhttp://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/python-cryptography.git/tree/python-cryptography.spec?h=el619:07
xaethhis build seems to be blocked on needing a newer python-six based on bugzilla, but since i'm building something to put into COPR i have an updated python-six already.  My problem is the test failures... not sure what the source of them is19:08
xaethcould be a bad versioned dependency still19:08
xaethbut i'm meeting the stated dependencies19:09
xaethi wonder if my python-six is too new19:09
aleexaeth, ok - mcepl is in the czech republic or germany which means that he's probably offline now.19:10
xaethkk19:10
xaeththanks19:10
aleethey've also been having a dev conf there this week - so may be hard to reach this week19:10
aleebut you can try in the mornings19:11
xaethkewl. will do19:11
xaeththanks19:11
xaethalee how do you want to go towards the pre-fedora package review?19:11
aleeif you still have trouble reaching him, ping me again and I'll hook you guys up.19:11
xaethi think the spec works fairly well right now.. and even got it supporting a little minimal variablizing for dev and rc releases19:11
xaethhttps://github.com/gregswift/barbican-spec19:12
aleexaeth, ok  - I'll take a look and get back to you.  kinda swamped right now - so it will likely be early next week.19:12
xaethso for todays kilo-2 you can do 'RELEASE_NUMBER=2 make' and get a built artifact. (just defining the release_number macro inside the spec would work too19:12
xaethnp19:12
xaeththats fine19:12
aleexaeth, but I think you can go ahead and file a package-review bug and someone might pick it up there19:13
xaethkk19:13
aleemight as well get the ball rolling19:13
aleexaeth, I assume you've done all that before?19:13
xaethlike i said in the intro email, i've only maintained existing... but i've seen the process19:14
aleexaeth, ok cool - copy me and hguemar on the review19:14
xaethwill do19:15
aleeawesome19:15
SheenaG1rm_work: ping19:24
rm_workSheenaG1: pong19:24
SheenaG1rm_work: I sent you a copy of the abstract for your presentation this AM, in case you'd like to review/revise19:25
aleejvrbanac, woodster_ , rm_work , redrobot - lets gather up the +2's for the per-secret spec please :)19:34
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rm_workSheenaG1: I saw, glanced at it but am still in my own mid-cycle right now :P19:39
rm_workSheenaG1: i think it looks ok19:39
rm_workalee: hey, I already gave you my +1, not much I can help with now :P19:40
rm_worknot a core yet <_<19:40
rm_workthough I did make core on Octavia :)19:40
SheenaG1rm_work:  I had no idea, apologies19:42
rm_workSheenaG1: heh np19:42
rm_workSheenaG1: bugging people is basically your job, right? :P19:43
rm_workI know it should be in my official job description...19:43
openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: All of the containers behaviors and container smoke tests  https://review.openstack.org/15178719:43
rm_workSheenaG1: i mean, it was like 2 sentences, I probably could have responded :P19:44
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SheenaG1rm_work: yes, cat herder is totally in my job description and I know you aren't literate19:47
SheenaG1rm_work: I was going to offer to send someone over to read it to you19:47
SheenaG1;-)19:47
rm_workSheenaG1: :P19:49
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openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: All of the containers behaviors and container smoke tests  https://review.openstack.org/15178721:33
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openstackgerritThomas Dinkjian proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Adds first round of secrets functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/15339522:04
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rm_workso... can someone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146210/ (with regard to the Barbican stuff) and make sure that looks sane?23:21
rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/146210/10/neutron_lbaas/common/cert_manager/barbican_cert_manager.py23:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/barbican: Drop old namespace for some oslo libraries  https://review.openstack.org/15037223:41
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