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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/barbican: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/204296 | 03:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/barbican: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/204917 | 06:14 |
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| jaosorior | would really use a workflow for this CR https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199142/ :D | 12:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/barbican: Add invalid property info to validation error message https://review.openstack.org/205057 | 13:22 |
| jaosorior | hockeynut: Thanks for the workflow dude :D | 13:24 |
| hockeynut | anytime! | 13:24 |
| hockeynut | will you be at midcycle? | 13:25 |
| jaosorior | how's it gonig over there? | 13:25 |
| jaosorior | Not this time :/ | 13:25 |
| hockeynut | sadness... | 13:25 |
| hockeynut | we will go out and find some Finnish liqueur in your honor! | 13:25 |
| jaosorior | Well, seems people's livers will not be in danger this mid-cycle :P | 13:26 |
| hockeynut | Rackspace medical plan thanks you! :-) | 13:26 |
| jaosorior | damn | 13:29 |
| jaosorior | seems that the changes in mock actually affect the stable/kilo branch | 13:29 |
| jaosorior | cherry-picking the fix | 13:32 |
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| jaosorior | alee: ping | 13:36 |
| alee | jaosorior, pong | 13:37 |
| alee | jaosorior, I had some questions for you too .. | 13:37 |
| jaosorior | alee: The packporting of the dogtag commits is on-going starting with this commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205059/ | 13:37 |
| jaosorior | stay put for the gate results :D | 13:37 |
| jaosorior | what's up? | 13:37 |
| alee | jaosorior, just a sec .. | 13:38 |
| alee | jaosorior, trying to set up my machine again - but I'm testing a certmonger helper script that talks to barbican | 13:42 |
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| alee | jaosorior, I need some help in setting up the data needed in keystone to do some real tests | 13:42 |
| jaosorior | alee: Sure man, what kind of setup do you want? | 13:42 |
| alee | jaosorior, give me a few mins to finish something up and set things up again - and I'll show you what I have. | 13:43 |
| jaosorior | sure# | 13:43 |
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| jaosorior | hockeynut: By the way, do you have time to check this CR out? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198732/ | 13:47 |
| hockeynut | <click> | 13:47 |
| jaosorior | redrobot^^ | 13:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/barbican: Add Private Key to the resulting container if stored-key order https://review.openstack.org/199142 | 13:48 |
| jaosorior | yay | 13:49 |
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| hockeynut | jaosorior the cli change makes me nervous because of the "secret container" and "secret order". I see the reasoning from the comments but I can see people confused between "container" which is well known across the codebase, and "secret container" which is just here | 13:55 |
| jaosorior | hockeynut: well, we can discuss of an alternative. Problem is, there is already a "container create" in the openstack CLI | 13:58 |
| jaosorior | so... that's taken | 13:58 |
| hockeynut | yup. its a sticky wicket | 13:58 |
| jaosorior | hockeynut: http://pastebin.com/RcDbCunr | 13:59 |
| hockeynut | "container" is yet another overloaded term and its not getting any better | 14:00 |
| jaosorior | in the python-barbicanclient's CLI container and order make sense, since that assumes already that the terms are exclusive to barbican | 14:00 |
| hockeynut | exactly | 14:00 |
| jaosorior | problem is when in the context of the openstack CLI. Then we don't have that assumption | 14:00 |
| jaosorior | other option would be | 14:00 |
| jaosorior | "barbican container" | 14:00 |
| hockeynut | I prefer secret to barbican | 14:01 |
| rm_work | I prefer barbican to secret | 14:01 |
| rm_work | but that'd be assuming you just prefix EVERYTHING with barbican | 14:01 |
| rm_work | which makes sense to me... | 14:02 |
| rm_work | `osc barbican container create [...]` | 14:02 |
| alee | jaosorior, so this is the script I've been working with .. http://paste.openstack.org/show/404026/ | 14:02 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: That's a possibility | 14:02 |
| rm_work | is what i assumed it would be like | 14:02 |
| hockeynut | are there other OS components with their own containers that have this same issue? | 14:02 |
| rm_work | jumbling every project's objects into a toplevel namespace seems funky | 14:02 |
| rm_work | is there not already a plan to do project prefixes for EVERYTHING? | 14:03 |
| alee | jaosorior, now when I run certmonger, this script is executed , but it fails because of .. | 14:03 |
| alee | The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed or otherwise incorrect.<br /><br /> | 14:03 |
| alee | Missing X-Project-Id | 14:03 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: Not sure about that. Only project that has something similar is ironic, and they prefix everything with baremetal. But that actually makes more sense in their case | 14:04 |
| alee | jaosorior, which means that my keystone server needs to have some projects etc. defined. | 14:04 |
| jaosorior | alee: you need to change your barbican-api-paste.ini to use the keystone middleware | 14:04 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: so how does nova work in osc? is it *not* `osc nova server create` or `osc nova boot`? | 14:04 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: no | 14:04 |
| rm_work | i haven't been following it | 14:04 |
| alee | jaosorior, ah yes .. | 14:04 |
| * rm_work tries to look up example docs | 14:05 | |
| rm_work | uhh also, heads up, i'll be bringing up Castellan-certs again | 14:05 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: These are the available commands: http://pastebin.com/etZrLmC8 | 14:05 |
| rm_work | have yet another project looking at using that interface | 14:05 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: ok, this is kinda dumb | 14:06 |
| rm_work | someone didn't think this through | 14:06 |
| rm_work | you can't just dump every project's commands into one top level domain and just hope it makes sense | 14:07 |
| hockeynut | keymgr perhaps? | 14:07 |
| jaosorior | rm_work, hockeynut: Another thing is that there is no reference to barbican itself in OSC. They rather use the full project name. In our case, key manager | 14:07 |
| rm_work | because now if barbican does it properly and prefixes with our project name, we'll be yet another "different syntax" | 14:07 |
| rm_work | erg | 14:08 |
| rm_work | i mean, same diff | 14:08 |
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| rm_work | the point is that the syntax `osc <projectprefix> <category> <action>` | 14:08 |
| jaosorior | the problem I see there is that "key manager order create" or "keymgr order create" will be kind of confusing if you start doing stuff related to certificate workflows | 14:08 |
| rm_work | would be different from the currently established `osc <category> <command>` | 14:08 |
| alee | jaosorior, yup - that did it -- now talking to barbican -- thanks | 14:08 |
| rm_work | which means things would be diverging again | 14:09 |
| jaosorior | that's why I thought prefixing with secret would be more appropriate | 14:09 |
| jaosorior | verbose, but still not breaking off from what's already there | 14:09 |
| rm_work | but that isn't even the point | 14:09 |
| jaosorior | alee: No problem. If you need any more help with your keystone setup let me know | 14:09 |
| rm_work | prefixing *at all* breaks from their current model | 14:09 |
| rm_work | so we'd be different again | 14:09 |
| rm_work | because no one else does that | 14:10 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: "secret order" made sense for me, because even though it is verbose, it is actually an order for a "secret". In a way | 14:10 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: yes, but `osc secret order [get | create]` | 14:10 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: We could ask stevemar if he has any recommendation there | 14:11 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: yes, but `osc secret secret [get | create | delete]` | 14:11 |
| rm_work | what is that even | 14:11 |
| jaosorior | actually, I do not prepend anything for secret | 14:11 |
| rm_work | ah errrrr | 14:11 |
| jaosorior | as you may see in that CR | 14:11 |
| rm_work | so like half of the commands prepend and half don't? | 14:11 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198732/ | 14:11 |
| rm_work | it's not even consistent across our own project? T_T | 14:11 |
| jaosorior | rm_work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198732/9/setup.cfg | 14:12 |
| rm_work | looking | 14:12 |
| rm_work | right so | 14:12 |
| rm_work | even *within the project* the syntax is inconsistent | 14:12 |
| rm_work | to me | 14:12 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: More than a "prefix" I'm actually trying to think of it as a sole object | 14:13 |
| rm_work | since there's a switch between two levels and three | 14:13 |
| jaosorior | so a "secret order" is a thing, while a "secret container" is another thing, and a "secret" is an object by itself | 14:13 |
| rm_work | `osc secret <action | category> [action | ref] [ref?]` | 14:13 |
| jaosorior | maybe a more appropriate thing to reflect that would be to have something such as "secret-order" | 14:14 |
| rm_work | yeah | 14:14 |
| rm_work | i suppose if you pretend it has a hyphen it makes a little bit more sense | 14:14 |
| jaosorior | I could try to change that CR to add a hyphen there | 14:15 |
| rm_work | then are we the only project using hyphens? | 14:15 |
| rm_work | looks like yes | 14:15 |
| jaosorior | we would be, yes | 14:15 |
| jaosorior | but I think that will be needed at some point by another project | 14:15 |
| jaosorior | that list is only showing the projects that are actually in the openstack CLI's codebase | 14:15 |
| jaosorior | I don't have any of the extensions | 14:15 |
| rm_work | k | 14:16 |
| rm_work | it just seems to indicate a lack of forethought to me | 14:16 |
| jaosorior | we could of course ask stevemar if he has an opinion about that | 14:16 |
| rm_work | if i were designing osc i would have automatically put each project in a namespace | 14:16 |
| rm_work | then there would be zero consistency issues | 14:16 |
| rm_work | and no chance of naming conflicts | 14:16 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: Should we take this up in the openstack-sdks chatroom? | 14:16 |
| rm_work | it might be a little late <_< | 14:16 |
| rm_work | how much is OSC being used presently? | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | keystone has adopted it fully | 14:17 |
| rm_work | is it still experimental as of liberty? | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | so you're not supposed to use the python-keystoneclient if you intend to use keystone v3 | 14:17 |
| rm_work | hmm | 14:17 |
| jaosorior | also projects like congress rely on it fully | 14:17 |
| rm_work | ugh | 14:17 |
| rm_work | this design really irks me, but with all the shit i'm doing right now it is taking a herculean effort to muster enough caring to actually do anything | 14:18 |
| rm_work | i guess it can't hurt to bring it up though | 14:19 |
| rm_work | i am willing to bet $1 that they already had a discussion about namespacing when they first started out | 14:19 |
| rm_work | and someone said "i'm sure it'll be fine" >_> | 14:19 |
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| jaosorior | rm_work: In the mean time | 14:21 |
| jaosorior | do you consider adding a hyphen there as an appropriate solution given what's already there? | 14:21 |
| rm_work | i guess that works to get it started, but you also must realize that whatever lands first is going to be very sticky | 14:22 |
| rm_work | so fixing this later will be rough | 14:22 |
| jaosorior | which is why there is a CR up there and we should be discussing the best solution. Like now | 14:22 |
| rm_work | trying to decide if i really think having our top-level object list as [secret secret-container secret-order] is better | 14:22 |
| rm_work | anyone else have an opinion? | 14:24 |
| jaosorior | I think I'm more into that approach than having it the way I proposed initially | 14:24 |
| rm_work | hockeynut / alee / redrobot | 14:24 |
| jaosorior | kind of removes some of the ambiguity | 14:24 |
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| rm_work | yeah i think i do prefer that, but only slightly | 14:24 |
| rm_work | the real fix would be to fix all of osc to properly prefix, but i feel like that's not going to happen | 14:25 |
| hockeynut | ^ winner | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Create Openstack CLI plugin for Barbican https://review.openstack.org/198732 | 14:25 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: Lets drop by the #openstack-sdks channel and ask | 14:25 |
| rm_work | yeah | 14:26 |
| rm_work | i joined | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack/castellan: Add functional tests for Barbican key manager wrapper https://review.openstack.org/199234 | 14:27 |
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| alee | therve, jaosorior -- hey - can you remind me ? how do I do a certificate order using barbican client cli? | 14:30 |
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| therve | alee, Let's see | 14:31 |
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| therve | barbican order create --type certificate ... ? | 14:32 |
| alee | therve, yeah .. thanks -- trying it out | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Create Openstack CLI plugin for Barbican https://review.openstack.org/198732 | 15:14 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: Got some minutes? need help figuring out why this CR is failing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205059/ :/ | 15:17 |
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| dave-mccowan | jaosorior try it without the change to setup.py. i think pbr>=1.3 won't work in kilo branch due to compatibility with other packages. | 15:21 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: momentarily | 15:23 |
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| jaosorior | dave-mccowan: Lets try that | 15:23 |
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| alee | jaosorior, are there any acceptance/functional tests for the python-barbicanclient? | 16:33 |
| alee | jaosorior, I have a helper script (python file) that links certmonger to barbican using the barbican client code -- I think it makes sense for this code to live in the barbican-client tree. thoughts? | 16:35 |
| rm_work | alee: i feel like you should link certmonger to barbican via castellan :P | 16:40 |
| * rm_work is only partially trolling | 16:41 | |
| alee | rm_work, ha! no comment | 16:41 |
| alee | rm_work, we'd need castellan-certs for that .. and yes, you can argue for that at the midcycle. | 16:42 |
| jaosorior | alee: Yep, there are functional tests | 16:43 |
| jaosorior | perhaps you could put that in a "contrib" folder? | 16:43 |
| rm_work | will be trying :) | 16:43 |
| alee | jaosorior, tox -e functional ? | 16:44 |
| jaosorior | alee: yup | 16:44 |
| alee | or run_tests.sh ? | 16:44 |
| jaosorior | alee: you need to tweak the etc/functional_tests.conf | 16:44 |
| jaosorior | but use the tox one | 16:44 |
| alee | jaosorior, ah -- looking | 16:45 |
| jaosorior | not sure if run_tests.sh actually works... haven't ran it in a long time | 16:45 |
| alee | jaosorior, cool - so you good with certmonger script being in the python-barbicanclient tree? | 16:46 |
| jaosorior | I am | 16:47 |
| jaosorior | that would actually be pretty convenient, since if there's changes in the python-barbicanclient interface, that could easily traced and reflected in the certmonger script | 16:48 |
| jaosorior | only thing I'm not sure about is actually testing that script | 16:48 |
| alee | jaosorior, we could put it in some kind of contrib folder -- I was just going to put it in barbicanclient/certmonger | 16:48 |
| jaosorior | alee: I'm more for the contrib folder | 16:49 |
| alee | jaosorior, yeah - well thats why I asked about functional tests | 16:49 |
| jaosorior | contrib/certmonger would be appropriate | 16:49 |
| alee | sure I can do that | 16:49 |
| alee | jaosorior, not sure how to test it as part of a gate job .. do we have those? | 16:50 |
| jaosorior | the functional tests are running as a gate job, yeah | 16:50 |
| jaosorior | but I guess for certmonger, a separate gatejob would be appropriate. Such as we have with dogtag | 16:51 |
| alee | jaosorior, yup | 16:51 |
| alee | jaosorior, although certmonger is widely available - so it could be possible to have it as part of the regular gate job | 16:52 |
| jaosorior | http://www.daedtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/TestAllTheThings.jpg | 16:52 |
| alee | jaosorior, though maybe separately at first | 16:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Fernando Diaz proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Allow Barbican Client Secret Update Functionality https://review.openstack.org/196876 | 16:52 |
| alee | jaosorior, cool thanks | 16:53 |
| jaosorior | alee: If it's in ubuntu, and not much needs to be configured, I don't see why we can't add it to the standard gate | 16:53 |
| alee | jaosorior, it is - but I'm going to need to add something to certmonger, so we'll need a specific certmonger version | 16:54 |
| alee | jaosorior, specifically, I'm going to need to add ca_id | 16:55 |
| alee | jaosorior, we can start as a separate gate and then merge in when we can. | 16:55 |
| jaosorior | alee: fair enough | 16:55 |
| alee | jaosorior, is there a way yet in the client to get the /cas interface? | 16:56 |
| alee | I think the answer is no .. guess I need to write it .. | 16:56 |
| jaosorior | alee: I think that should have been part of the implementation of the blueprint. If that's missing then we all messed up since I think that blueprint was marked as complete | 16:57 |
| rm_work | i think in general the client has a tendency to get neglected T_T | 16:58 |
| jaosorior | rm_work: It hurts :( | 16:58 |
| rm_work | ACLs in the client yet? | 16:58 |
| jaosorior | I don't think so | 16:59 |
| rm_work | T_T | 16:59 |
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| jaosorior | is the blueprint marked as completed? | 16:59 |
| jaosorior | because if the client doesn't support ACLs then it shouldn't be marked as such | 16:59 |
| jaosorior | anyway, gonna go fetch a beer and dinner. I MIGHT be back haha | 17:00 |
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| jkf | chellygel: ping | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fernando Diaz proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: DO NOT REVIEW https://review.openstack.org/205191 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fernando Diaz proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Allow Barbican Client Secret Update Functionality https://review.openstack.org/196876 | 17:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fernando Diaz proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: DO NOT REVIEW https://review.openstack.org/205191 | 17:52 |
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| jkf | Where can I find the API docs for the cert management API? It doesn't appear that the wiki docs have been updated and I'm trying to get one of our CA Devs up to speed so he can work on writing the Symantec CA plugin. | 18:15 |
| jkf | Of course, right after I ask, I see a link I've been missing for the past day or so. :) | 18:16 |
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| jaosorior | does anyone have an idea why docs and the functional tests gate are failing for this CR? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205059/ in the stable/kilo branch | 20:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: Create Openstack CLI plugin for Barbican https://review.openstack.org/198732 | 20:41 |
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| hockeynut | jaosorior looks like it couldn't bring up a devstack for that CR - not sure what's different for the kilo branch | 21:02 |
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| hockeynut | took about 14 minutes between "Running devstack" and a "No hosts matched" msg | 21:02 |
| jaosorior | hockeynut: Neither am I :/ thought it was supposed to work | 21:02 |
| hockeynut | I haven't yet had the joy of putting anything anywhere but the current release. perhaps redrobot might check in | 21:03 |
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