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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/barbican: Remove old gate code https://review.openstack.org/219451 | 18:08 |
| rm_work | jaosorior: ^^ updated, i assume still relevant? | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack/castellan: Update managed object __eq__ and __ne__ https://review.openstack.org/233105 | 18:35 |
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| jaosorior | rm_work: yup | 18:37 |
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| kfarr | diazjf, do you have a few minutes? I'm hoping you can help me with this integration with Castellan and Swift's KeyMaster | 18:51 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, sure lets talk in a 1/2 hour if its ok | 18:58 |
| kfarr | diazjf, sure! Looking forward to it | 18:59 |
| diazjf | kfarr awesome :) | 19:00 |
| diazjf | I'll ping you when I'm ready | 19:00 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, ready when you are | 19:28 |
| kfarr | okk diazjf | 19:29 |
| kfarr | Ok, so the first patch I was looking at was this one, about the keystone middleware context | 19:30 |
| kfarr | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235671/1 | 19:30 |
| diazjf | Alright so swift has in the pipeline "authtoken keystoneauth" | 19:31 |
| diazjf | which contain the attribute "project_id" instead of "tenant" | 19:31 |
| diazjf | as seen in https://github.com/openstack/keystonemiddleware/blob/master/keystonemiddleware/auth_token/_user_plugin.py#L63 | 19:32 |
| kfarr | Yeah, so the way it looks in Cinder and Nova is they have these context objects that inherit from oslo_context's RequestContext: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.context/blob/master/oslo_context/context.py | 19:33 |
| kfarr | Nova's version: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1635086529c43edcb69966c48c41b5fca2d1b26c/nova/context.py | 19:33 |
| kfarr | Cinder's version: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/context.py | 19:33 |
| kfarr | And so I was just sort of expecting that all OpenStack projects would have the same sort of thing | 19:33 |
| kfarr | But from what I can tell, Swift doesn't, it just uses that middleware token that you pointed out | 19:34 |
| kfarr | And I am trying to figure out how they fit together | 19:34 |
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| jaosorior | kfarr, diazjf: well, at least in barbican we inherit from oslo_context and then fetch 'tenant' and use 'project' instead | 19:35 |
| jaosorior | to try to have everything uniform | 19:36 |
| jaosorior | kfarr, diazjf: https://github.com/openstack/barbican/blob/master/barbican/context.py#L31 | 19:36 |
| diazjf | jaosorior, kfarr, Since swift does not have a context derived from oslo.context, I looked into what environmental variable I can access in order to provide a Keystone token. It lead me to env.get('keystone.token_auth').user | 19:37 |
| kfarr | jaosorior thanks! | 19:37 |
| jaosorior | yeah... wish the implementation of the projects didn't defer as much as it does | 19:39 |
| kfarr | jaosorior, diazjf, what I am wondering is it seems a little strange to accept either an oslo_context object or a keystone middleware token, so should Castellan be changed to accept something more generic? | 19:39 |
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| jaosorior | kfarr: Well, I wish I had a proper answer to that. I don't know :/ | 19:41 |
| kfarr | Or should Swift be changed to pass around oslo_context objects instead? | 19:41 |
| jaosorior | IMO it would be better if Swift was changed | 19:42 |
| jaosorior | AFAIK oslo.context should be the way to go | 19:42 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, I'm thinking the usage of project_id and tenant together keeps it backwards compatible with both if anything, but jaosorior has a point. | 19:43 |
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| kfarr | diazjf, you mean jaosorior's point about maybe Swift should be changed? | 19:44 |
| diazjf | kfarr, yup, but I'm also thinking what if a user creates their own service and wants to use keystone auth middleware? | 19:45 |
| diazjf | maybe we should support both | 19:45 |
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| kfarr | diazjf, what I meant was I didn't even realize that was an option, I thought all services were supposed to use oslo_context | 19:45 |
| diazjf | kfarr, not 100% sure on that, stevemar_, any opinions on the above. | 19:46 |
| diazjf | kfarr, let me ask in the swift irc | 19:49 |
| kfarr | Ok, thanks diazjf! I'll research a little more | 19:50 |
| diazjf | kfarr, the swift team pointed me to https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/common/middleware/keystoneauth.py | 19:53 |
| kfarr | diazjf, ok thanks! | 19:54 |
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| kfarr | Ok well, diazjf, if it's ok with you, I'd like to research a little bit more about how everything fits together | 19:56 |
| diazjf | kfarr, of course thanks for the help and feel free to contact me if you need anything | 19:57 |
| kfarr | diazjf, ok and one more question, do you still have time? | 19:57 |
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| diazjf | yup | 19:58 |
| diazjf | also my question was confirmed, swift does not rely on oslo.context | 19:58 |
| kfarr | diazjf, can you please walk me through the steps needed to get the appropriate key from Castellan? I am a little bit confused about how listing the metadata helps. | 19:58 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, So listing metadata will no be needed for an initial use-case, but it will be needed for future support of rekeying, where the created date must be extracted from a secret. | 20:00 |
| diazjf | If a secret exceeds a certain date a new key will be generated and used | 20:00 |
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| kfarr | ah ok diazjf, that makes much more sense | 20:02 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, sure and anything you need me to look into, I'd be happy to do so | 20:02 |
| kfarr | diazjf, how about, instead of have a separate method to list the metadata as you have in this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237381/ | 20:03 |
| kfarr | could we just a "created" field on the managed object itself? | 20:03 |
| kfarr | Just like how you did for "name" | 20:03 |
| kfarr | could we just *add a.. | 20:03 |
| diazjf | kfarr, the object will need to be created first before the created date can be input | 20:05 |
| diazjf | barbican generates the date, where as in name, and other attributes we manually add them | 20:05 |
| kfarr | diazjf, is this for storing or creating keys? | 20:06 |
| kfarr | More specifically, is swift storing or creating keys? | 20:07 |
| kfarr | Because when the user retrieves the key, Castellan could just populated a "created" field, using the the created field from Barbican | 20:09 |
| kfarr | * populate | 20:09 |
| diazjf | kfarr, that makes sense. swift will be doing both. I'm a key is no existent it will need to be created, but we only need the created value upon grabbing a key. | 20:10 |
| diazjf | Do you have an examples of a field being populated after a secret has been created? | 20:11 |
| diazjf | ^^ actually its just doing so using barbican client, I'm sure | 20:13 |
| kfarr | Not any specific examples, but I'm picturing _created_date is going to be a private attribute, created_date is going to be a property that returns _created_date | 20:15 |
| kfarr | and there will be no option for setting created_date in the constructor because we don't want to encourage people to manually set it | 20:15 |
| kfarr | but in _get_castellan_object (https://github.com/openstack/castellan/blob/master/castellan/key_manager/barbican_key_manager.py#L411) | 20:16 |
| kfarr | it will set the private _created_date to be whatever barbican says it was | 20:16 |
| kfarr | and we can document that if you call your_managed_object.created_date and it returns None, that means your reference to the object was not the one persisted in your key manager yet | 20:17 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, I'll add a patch for that tonight and abandon the get_meta one. I'll post any questions on the patch. | 20:18 |
| diazjf | thanks for all the details :) | 20:18 |
| kfarr | Sure, thanks for working on this! | 20:19 |
| diazjf | kfarr, no prob, and post any questions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235671/1 I'll try to answer anything as best I can | 20:20 |
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| rm_work | yeah, the whole "is this object persisted or not" stuff is a bit tricky | 20:22 |
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| rm_work | when I wrote all of that in the NEW barbicanclient, I didn't expect it to end up quite so janky :/ | 20:22 |
| rm_work | but it's a complex problem | 20:22 |
| rm_work | that other people solve by not caring, i think :P | 20:22 |
| rm_work | (what fields can/can't be edited, when the object is in which states" | 20:23 |
| rm_work | ) | 20:23 |
| kfarr | lolz rm_work | 20:23 |
| rm_work | yeah, so sorry about that mess, it's mostly my fault | 20:24 |
| rm_work | for trying to be cute | 20:24 |
| kfarr | I know at least in Java with Hibernate annotations, the way to tell if your object has been persisted is if it has an assigned ID, so your approach seems reasonable to me at least | 20:24 |
| rm_work | yeah, but the whole "prevent editing if the object is in persisted state" thing | 20:24 |
| rm_work | probably was overkill | 20:24 |
| rm_work | i did like the fancy decorator i made for it though :P | 20:25 |
| kfarr | haha nice! Fancy decorators are slick | 20:25 |
| rm_work | well that plus the caching stuff | 20:26 |
| rm_work | makes the internals of the objects a bit of a mess | 20:26 |
| rm_work | which is "just magic" when it works | 20:26 |
| rm_work | but is a pain to visualize when editing | 20:26 |
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| diazjf | kfarr, jaosorior, I was told that it may be hard to implement oslo into swift. I add a swift core as a reviewer to the patch. | 20:54 |
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| kfarr | diazjf, thanks for looking into it, it sounds like adding oslo to all of swift may not be the best option. I'm not sure if the better option would be to quickly create an oslo context from the keystone middleware token before passing it to castellan, or to adjust castellan to accept multiple kinds of contexts, which still seems kind of strange to me, but maybe it doesn't matter as long as whatever you're passing in has a | 21:07 |
| diazjf | kfarr, keep me posted on whats decided :) | 21:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dave McCowan proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient: README.rst devstack link not properly displayed https://review.openstack.org/235737 | 22:10 |
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