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arunkant_ | jaosorior: ping | 12:46 |
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jaosorior | arunkant_ pong | 13:27 |
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arunkant_ | jaosorior: Hi..can you please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248324/ again. I am trying to get this move forward. | 13:29 |
jaosorior | arunkant_ Done | 13:30 |
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arunkant_ | jaosorior: kfarr has some comments in earlier patches..so need to change the impl. As per yesterdat conv, she seems to be okay with current patch. | 13:30 |
arunkant_ | jaosorior: thanks. | 13:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Hamilton proposed openstack/barbican: Remove low-level PyKMIP test asserts https://review.openstack.org/253505 | 14:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Hamilton proposed openstack/barbican: Remove low-level PyKMIP test asserts https://review.openstack.org/253505 | 14:38 |
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peter-hamilton | rellerreller: ping | 15:39 |
rellerreller | peter-hamilton pong | 15:40 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: care to take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253505/ | 15:41 |
rellerreller | peter-hamilton I can take a look hopefully in about 10 minutes. I'm working on something now. | 15:42 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: cool, thanks | 15:42 |
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arunkant_ | kfarr: thanks for the review. | 17:35 |
kfarr | arunkant_, thanks for the patch! | 17:36 |
arunkant_ | kfarr: Looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248324/ needs to be approved again as nothing happened after 'reverify' | 17:37 |
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kfarr | arunkant_, no I checked zuul, it's just taking it's time for it to finish up the functional tests | 17:38 |
kfarr | it's got about 5 more minutes before it finishes, or so it says | 17:38 |
arunkant_ | kfarr: okay. I did not check on zuul side. On the review side, I generally see "Starting gate jobs" after the action. | 17:41 |
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arunkant_ | kfarr: thanks again for checking on that as well. | 17:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/barbican: Authorized API Requests https://review.openstack.org/251593 | 18:39 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/barbican: Assigning oslo config CONF once to parsed barbican CONF instance https://review.openstack.org/248324 | 18:39 |
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peter-hamilton | kfarr: thanks for the +2 | 19:19 |
peter-hamilton | woodster_: ping | 19:25 |
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peter-hamilton | rellerreller: ping | 19:26 |
rellerreller | peter-hamilton pong | 19:27 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: got a second to workflow https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253505/ | 19:27 |
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rellerreller | peter-hamilton I already did that. | 19:28 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: really? how long does it take to show on the review? | 19:28 |
rellerreller | peter-hamilton I don't know. Check it again real quick. | 19:29 |
spotz | peter-hamilton I see the workflow | 19:29 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: spotz oh there it is | 19:29 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller, spotz: it literally just showed up | 19:30 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller, spotz: thanks! | 19:30 |
rellerreller | peter-hamilton I literally did it while you were typing your message at 14:27. | 19:30 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: haha, figures | 19:30 |
rellerreller | peter-hamilton I was talking it over with kfarr. | 19:31 |
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spotz | heheh | 19:31 |
peter-hamilton | rellerreller: gotcha, did you have questions for me? i was out earlier | 19:31 |
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alee | elmiko, xaeth ping | 19:45 |
xaeth | whats up | 19:45 |
elmiko | yo | 19:46 |
alee | xaeth, elmiko -- I'm trying a little to undeerstand the packaging in the barbican rpm .. | 19:46 |
alee | https://review.gerrithub.io/#/c/254259/1/openstack-barbican.spec | 19:46 |
alee | elmiko, xaeth this is a CR I put up to fix the rdo version of the barbican spec | 19:47 |
alee | I agree with apevec that some of the perms are wrong .. | 19:47 |
elmiko | i saw this earlier when you pinged in #rdo, but i think apevec's comments superceded my approval ;) | 19:47 |
elmiko | i thought we were going to do something like barbican:root for the perms? or was that improper as well? | 19:48 |
alee | whats supposed to be in openstack-barbican as opposed to openstack-barbican-api> | 19:48 |
elmiko | i think openstack-barbican would contain openstack-barbican-api and openstack-barbican-doc maybe? | 19:49 |
alee | elmiko, as opposed to python-barbican .. | 19:49 |
xaeth | alee: openstack-barbican should only really be bits like the directory structures common to the other bits | 19:49 |
elmiko | i don't think there should be a python-barbican | 19:49 |
elmiko | only python-barbicanclient | 19:49 |
alee | xaeth, right now it looks like all subpackages depend on python-barbican | 19:50 |
elmiko | hmm | 19:50 |
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elmiko | this may be a better question for apevec or number80 | 19:50 |
alee | openstack-barbican-api depends on openstack-barbican | 19:50 |
alee | (which depends on pyhton-barbican) | 19:51 |
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elmiko | i had thought that targets like openstack-barbican-api would just be for something like the barbican-api server | 19:51 |
alee | elmiko, xaeth maybe we should look at openstack-glance or similar .. | 19:52 |
elmiko | +1 | 19:52 |
xaeth | +1 | 19:53 |
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elmiko | alee: so, looking at the sahara and nova packages, they both have the top level package (openstack-nova, for example) including the subpackages | 19:55 |
elmiko | see https://github.com/openstack-packages/nova/blob/rpm-master/openstack-nova.spec | 19:55 |
elmiko | it was always my understanding that the specific packages (eg openstack-barbican-api) were just for installing those specific components | 19:56 |
elmiko | and that the overarching package (eg openstack-barbican) was for including all those subpackages | 19:56 |
xaeth | we don't do a -common, but i'm not sure why you would split those bits to -common | 19:56 |
elmiko | so that a user can just do `dnf install openstack-barbican` and get the whole thing | 19:57 |
xaeth | unless you were doing an umbrella like that | 19:57 |
elmiko | yea, not sure why nova does that | 19:57 |
elmiko | but it has *tons* of stuff to package | 19:57 |
xaeth | well if you are using it as a umbrella i guess it makes sense | 19:57 |
xaeth | we aren't using it as an umbrella, we are using it as common | 19:58 |
xaeth | install the 'role' you want | 19:58 |
elmiko | hmm, and they are requiring python-nova | 19:58 |
elmiko | oh, i get it | 19:58 |
alee | elmiko, xaeth glance is a little simpler | 19:58 |
alee | https://github.com/openstack-packages/glance/blob/rpm-master/openstack-glance.spec | 19:59 |
elmiko | if i want to just install openstack-nova-api, and not the rest, then i would need openstack-nova-common | 19:59 |
elmiko | alee: ack | 19:59 |
alee | elmiko, xaeth the libraries / python module are in python-X | 19:59 |
xaeth | alee: ya, but in that case glance is the library and then the app | 19:59 |
alee | all other modules must require that | 19:59 |
xaeth | there are only the 2 packages | 20:00 |
xaeth | well.. docs | 20:00 |
alee | xaeth, yup - cinder is simple too https://github.com/openstack-packages/cinder/blob/rpm-master/openstack-cinder.spec | 20:01 |
alee | elmiko, xaeth I dont think we are too far off | 20:02 |
xaeth | barbican has: common (for api and worker), api, worker, and then library | 20:02 |
elmiko | alee: so, looking at some of these examples, openstack-barbican should require openstack-barbican-api and potentially any other modules that are broken out separately | 20:02 |
xaeth | i dont see how our separation is bad | 20:02 |
xaeth | api != worker | 20:02 |
alee | elmiko, well thats if you have the idea of an overarching package | 20:02 |
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elmiko | right | 20:02 |
alee | so what we have right now is this .. | 20:03 |
xaeth | i'm fine with making openstack-barbican an overarching and moving its current bits to common, but i dont see what else would change, and I dont know that that is necessary | 20:03 |
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xaeth | i'm not a fan of umbrella packages but if thats a thing in openstack-packages i'm okay with it | 20:04 |
alee | python-barbican required by all packages (os-barbican, os-barbican-worker, etc) | 20:04 |
alee | and then os-barbican-api depens on os-barbican | 20:04 |
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alee | my question is this really -- do we need os-barbican-api and os-barbican? | 20:04 |
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xaeth | if i want to install os-barbican-worker i dont want the os-barbican-api bits | 20:05 |
elmiko | my understanding is that the rdo folks want sub-packages for those applications (at least, we had to add them in the sahara packaging) | 20:05 |
xaeth | they are separate apps | 20:05 |
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alee | fine .. install os-barbican-worker | 20:05 |
elmiko | i'm not sure what the current thinking is, but that's a highly rdo-specific question | 20:05 |
alee | it will pull in python-barbican | 20:06 |
xaeth | os-barbican-work relies on files from os-barbican | 20:06 |
xaeth | that shouldnt be in python-barbican | 20:06 |
elmiko | i think that was apevec's point on the review | 20:06 |
alee | xaeth, what does it depend on that is not in python-barbican? | 20:07 |
xaeth | i retract my statement | 20:08 |
alee | elmiko, looks like sahara does it differently too .. | 20:08 |
elmiko | yea | 20:08 |
xaeth | i dont remember duplicating those lines between the 2 sections | 20:08 |
elmiko | but sahara has an openstack-sahara package, then some sub-pacakges | 20:09 |
xaeth | https://github.com/openstack-packages/barbican/blob/rpm-master/openstack-barbican.spec#L196-L198 | 20:09 |
xaeth | https://github.com/openstack-packages/barbican/blob/rpm-master/openstack-barbican.spec#L233-L235 | 20:09 |
elmiko | and no openstack-sahara-common package | 20:09 |
elmiko | or did you mean something different? | 20:09 |
alee | https://github.com/openstack-packages/sahara/blob/rpm-master/openstack-sahara.spec eh? | 20:10 |
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elmiko | oh oops, guess that was added ;) | 20:11 |
alee | elmiko, xaeth so sahara has a common package, and subpackages that depend on that common package, and an umbrella package | 20:12 |
xaeth | right | 20:12 |
* elmiko nods | 20:12 | |
xaeth | if we want that to now be a umbrella i'm fine with that. I still think common makes sense, and would remove that duplication that got added recently | 20:13 |
xaeth | is removign the duplication worth a separate package? maybe not *shrug8 | 20:13 |
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elmiko | in the case of sahara, it may make sense to have a common package. since you could install an HA service node that just has the openstack-sahara-engine package without installing openstack-sahara | 20:13 |
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elmiko | i'm not sure if anyone would actually do that, but it's possible | 20:14 |
elmiko | sahara has an HA mode were the master controller runs the sahara-api and the slaves run sahara-engine | 20:14 |
elmiko | *where | 20:15 |
elmiko | for barbican, would you ever install openstack-barbican-worker without openstack-barbican-api? | 20:16 |
elmiko | if so, and they have common files, then the common package makes sense | 20:16 |
alee | I'm not sure an overarching package makes sense -- and in fact, I dont think we actually build one | 20:17 |
alee | we dont build openstack-barbican | 20:17 |
elmiko | that seems odd to me | 20:17 |
alee | there is no %files section | 20:17 |
alee | not really -- we do the same thing with pki-core | 20:18 |
elmiko | i would think that the end-user would want to be able to do `dnf install openstack-barbican`, no? | 20:18 |
alee | we have a bunch of subpackages that are built | 20:18 |
alee | elmiko, well thats a separate question .. | 20:18 |
elmiko | right, but the openstack-barbican package would just require those sub-packages | 20:18 |
elmiko | ok, maybe i'm slightly confused then | 20:19 |
alee | elmiko, when someone does that -- dnf install openstack-barbican -- what would you expect them to install? | 20:19 |
elmiko | i would expect to install enough for a minimal, single node, barbican server | 20:19 |
alee | elmiko, so you'd expect openstack-barbican-api? | 20:20 |
elmiko | that makes sense | 20:20 |
alee | so why not just do away with openstack-barbican-api ? and have the main package deliver whats in openstack-barbican-api? | 20:20 |
alee | if you want an api node, installl openstack-barbican, if you want a worker, install openstack-barbican-worker | 20:21 |
elmiko | well, i see an openstack-barbican-worker package, would i ever want to install openstack-barbican-api without the worker? | 20:21 |
alee | I dont think you want the worker and the api node together ever .. | 20:22 |
elmiko | i get what you are saying, but i think this is something the rdo folks have in place for higher granularity of package installs | 20:22 |
alee | xaeth, ^^? | 20:22 |
xaeth | sorry had to walk away | 20:22 |
alee | elmiko, the way things are now, we do not build openstack-barbican | 20:23 |
elmiko | huh, interesting | 20:23 |
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alee | thats the source package -- but we build openstack-barbican-api, -worker etc. | 20:23 |
alee | that actually makes sense to me | 20:23 |
elmiko | honestly, if the rdo guys are ok with things being separated that way then i'm not gonna question that logic | 20:23 |
xaeth | i'm fine with rolling api into main | 20:24 |
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xaeth | you would run worker without api | 20:24 |
xaeth | we are at least | 20:24 |
alee | right - that makes sense | 20:24 |
elmiko | yea, to me it makes more sense to have openstack-barbican and openstack-barbican-worker | 20:24 |
elmiko | just from an installer perspective | 20:25 |
xaeth | we build an openstack-barbican right now.. i'm confused https://github.com/openstack-packages/barbican/blob/rpm-master/openstack-barbican.spec#L194-L203 | 20:25 |
alee | oh - yeah we do | 20:25 |
xaeth | i'm fine with rolling os-b-api into os-b for that reason | 20:25 |
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xaeth | (the convo above) | 20:25 |
alee | and thats why I was confused -- because the only thing that requires that is -- openstack-barbican-api | 20:25 |
xaeth | i dont know why -worker stopped requiring it | 20:26 |
xaeth | it was my understanding that both requried it | 20:26 |
jkf | alee: Why wouldn't someone want to run api and workers on the same machine? I plan to, just because of the beefy machines I'll be running on. Plus it gives me the flexibility to separate them later if I want. | 20:26 |
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xaeth | jkf: not that you can't but that some people wont | 20:26 |
xaeth | which is why i dont want them to conflict, so that you can | 20:26 |
elmiko | ok, now i'm really confused... | 20:27 |
alee | xaeth, elmiko either way it seems like we need a common .. | 20:27 |
elmiko | that is exactly the point of having the openstack-barbican package *and* openstack-barbican-api | 20:27 |
jkf | xaeth: +1 on that. | 20:27 |
elmiko | openstack-barbican installs *everything* | 20:27 |
xaeth | elmiko: but if we move shared to -common then people that install openstack-barbican get the api... i can get behind that | 20:27 |
elmiko | if you know that you only need -api or -worker, then you only install those | 20:28 |
xaeth | heh.... | 20:28 |
elmiko | right, but openstack-barbican would install -api and -worker | 20:28 |
xaeth | so tbh i'm good wither either of those 2 solutions | 20:28 |
alee | elmiko, thats not the way it currently works .. | 20:28 |
alee | so we need to decide how we want it to work | 20:28 |
elmiko | alee: ack, but it probably should be | 20:28 |
xaeth | solution a) -common gets created and -api is now os-b. worker replies on -common not os-b | 20:28 |
xaeth | solution b) -common gets created and os-b is now an umbrella that beings in all | 20:29 |
xaeth | solution c) os-b gets made back into a common package and people bring in -api or -worker as they want | 20:29 |
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elmiko | i think b is the proper way | 20:30 |
xaeth | did that summarize what we are talking about well enough? | 20:30 |
alee | yup | 20:30 |
elmiko | os-b installs -common, -api, -worker | 20:30 |
elmiko | -api and -worker require -common | 20:30 |
xaeth | i dont really care which of the 3, they all have merrits | 20:31 |
elmiko | b is closer to the other packages we looked at | 20:31 |
alee | elmiko, its certainly closer to sahara :) | 20:32 |
alee | elmiko, I'm ok with b | 20:32 |
elmiko | true, but i think nova was like that as well | 20:32 |
alee | elmiko, right | 20:32 |
alee | ok -- (b) is what I'll do then | 20:33 |
xaeth | i gotta bounce | 20:33 |
elmiko | sounds good to me | 20:33 |
elmiko | take care xaeth | 20:33 |
alee | cool - thanks all | 20:33 |
elmiko | np, sorry for the confusion | 20:33 |
alee | and all this because I could not figure out where to create the bartbican user .. | 20:33 |
elmiko | hehe | 20:34 |
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lisaclark1 | hi all | 20:51 |
lisaclark1 | just a heads up that I've updated the barbican midcycle sprint wiki with hotel details: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/BarbicanMitakaSprint | 20:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/barbican: Remove low-level PyKMIP test asserts https://review.openstack.org/253505 | 21:50 |
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rm_work | lisaclark1: where is your midcycle? CEC? | 21:58 |
rm_work | lisaclark1: our midcycle for Neutron-LBaaS is also at the Castle, in the CEC Jan 12-15th | 21:59 |
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rm_work | lisaclark1: just signed up for a Drop-In ticket too :P | 22:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeff Feng proposed openstack/barbican-specs: Adding a barbican-manage command https://review.openstack.org/253719 | 22:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Hamilton proposed openstack/barbican: Add PyKMIP test asserts https://review.openstack.org/253720 | 22:18 |
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