Tuesday, 2021-05-25

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openstackgerritXueFeng Liu proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient master: Add unicode compate for payload_content_type  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-barbicanclient/+/67644506:38
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openstackgerritXueFeng Liu proposed openstack/python-barbicanclient master: Add unicode compate for payload_content_type  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-barbicanclient/+/67644507:26
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redrobot#startmeeting barbican13:01
openstackMeeting started Tue May 25 13:01:57 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: barbican)"13:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'barbican'13:02
redrobot#topic Roll Call13:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: barbican)"13:02
redrobotCourtesy ping for ade_lee dave-mccowan hrybacki jamespage Luzi lxkong mhen moguimar raildo rm_work tosky xek nearyo oleksandry13:02
Luzio/13:02
redrobotHi Luzi13:03
rm_worko/13:03
redrobotHi rm_work13:03
moguimarhey hey13:03
redrobotHola moguimar13:03
redrobotCool, let's get started13:04
redrobotAs usual the agenda is over here:13:04
redrobot#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/barbican-weekly-meeting13:04
redrobotThere are no pending action items, so we'll skip those today13:04
redrobot#topic Liaison Updates13:05
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redrobotAny updates, moguimar? (I don't think tosky is online)13:05
moguimarwe had no meeting yesterday afaik13:05
redrobotCool13:05
moguimarunless it happened the next hour13:05
redrobot#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/13:06
redrobotlooks like the last meeting was 2021-05-1713:06
redrobotOK, moving on13:06
redrobot#topic Kanban Review13:06
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redrobotNo updates on my side unfortunately13:07
redrobotmoguimar any HVAC updates?13:08
moguimarnope13:08
redrobotCool, cool.  Moving on ...13:08
redrobot#topic Feedback on Freenode13:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/barbican stable/wallaby: Raise maximum allowed secret size  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/barbican/+/79284413:09
redrobotHopefully by now everyone is aware of the changes taking place in the Freenode leadership13:09
redrobotIf not, there's a big thread in the ML13:10
redrobot#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022539.html13:10
rm_workyeah, I may be the only long-time IRC user in the entire world that doesn't get it, but people seem ... passionate13:10
rm_workdid the guy running this murder their dog like in John Wick?13:10
redrobotHaha13:10
redrobotI guess some folks are concerned about the new ownsership/leadership?13:11
* rm_work shrugs13:11
redrobotPersonally, I'm in the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" camp13:11
rm_workas long as it's accepting connections and we retain channel OPs ... then I don't really understand how this affects any of us13:11
redrobotand I have not noticed any changes in the functionality/stability of Freenode13:11
redrobotrm_work++13:11
redrobotI think you and I are on the same page13:11
rm_workbut people assure me that this is an absolute travesty and the world is crumbling, so13:11
redrobotThe TC is trying to gather feedback from every team13:12
redrobot#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/feedback-on-freenode13:12
rm_workso many people are freaking out beyond my comprehension13:12
rm_workI guess if they care so much, we can move? :D13:12
redrobotRight, I don't have a strong preference either way13:12
rm_workyeah I was just reading that, surprised at the number of people saying WE MUST MOVE ASAP13:12
redrobotbut I also don't see a need to move13:12
redrobotYeah, the MUST MOVE opinion seem to be more idealistic than technical13:13
redrobotIn any case, I added the topic to gather feedback from our team13:13
redrobotto put into the etherpad for the TC13:13
redrobotSo if anyone here has strong feelings about moving, let me know and I'll convey that to the TC13:14
rm_workyes, seems like a measured reaction where we look at alternatives, weigh them, and don't do things purely impulsively would be best ...13:14
rm_workI guess we will talk about this in the Octavia meeting tomorrow too, so will see :D13:14
rm_workI was hoping someone would be able to explain to me why the reaction is so ... emotional?13:14
* redrobot makes a note to go troll octavia toomorrow 13:15
rm_work:D13:15
moguimarif someone tells you, let us know next week13:15
rm_work lol k13:15
redrobotMy impression is that folks are seeing this as "Oh noes!  A commercial entity is destroying Freenode" ... but there's two sides to the story, and the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.13:15
rm_worki mean, when every other message is an advertisement keyed off our conversation, then i'll be concerned?13:17
rm_workor when my client doesn't connect anymore... or random people are coming in and OPing themselves and kicking people for fun?13:17
rm_workbut I don't see why any of this is a precursor to that kind of behavior13:18
* rm_work shrugs again13:18
redrobotrm_work++13:19
redrobotLuzi, moguimar, any opinions on Freenode ?13:19
moguimarsame13:19
Luzinothing13:21
redrobotCool, I will update the TC etherpad with our preference for Option 1: Wait and see.13:21
redrobotMoving on ...13:22
redrobot#topic moguimar's last 3 weeks 😢13:22
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rm_workT_T13:22
redrobotWe're going to miss you moguimar13:22
moguimar=')13:23
moguimarI'll try to be around in the reviews13:23
redrobotThat'd be awesome13:23
redrobotbecause we might need to move to 1x +2 if ade_lee_ and I are the only active cores13:24
moguimarand speaking of them, I have no +2 power on stable branches13:24
redrobotYeah, I think I'm the only one with +2 on stable13:25
redrobotbut I do appreciate the +1s13:25
redrobotSpeaking of reviews ... let's review the bug board13:26
redrobot#topic Bug review13:26
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redrobot#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/barbican13:27
redrobotNo new Barbican stories13:27
redrobot#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/castellan/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=013:28
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redrobotNo new Castellan stories either13:28
redrobot#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cursive/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=013:28
redrobotand no new Cursive stories13:28
redrobot#topic Wayward Reviews13:28
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redrobot#link https://tinyurl.com/y3zto3ad13:29
redrobotmoguimar first easy review: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/barbican-tempest-plugin/+/48144013:29
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moguimarI got poked about this one today13:31
moguimarhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/castellan/+/76956013:31
moguimarhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/castellan/+/769560/9/castellan/key_manager/barbican_key_manager.py#69013:32
redrobotAck, I'll take a look at that today13:32
rm_workwait, Cursive? did I miss a new thing?13:32
redrobotrm_work it's an old thing actually.  It was orphaned when (team I can't recall) went away13:33
moguimarI think that adding loading.get_session_conf_options() to two different option groups will cause missconfig13:33
rm_workhmm interesting13:33
redrobotrm_work it's used by Cinder (I think?) ... well some project still uses it, so we're helping to maintain it along with the Oslo team13:34
rm_workstill working on ripping out all of the janky cert code in octavia <_<13:35
redrobot#topic Open Discussion13:37
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redrobotAnything else y'all want to talk about?13:37
redrobotCool, let's call it a day, then.13:43
redrobotThanks for joining everyone!13:43
redrobot#endmeeting13:43
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openstackMeeting ended Tue May 25 13:43:11 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:43
moguimarnope13:43
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2021/barbican.2021-05-25-13.01.html13:43
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2021/barbican.2021-05-25-13.01.txt13:43
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2021/barbican.2021-05-25-13.01.log.html13:43
moguimarlets call it the towel day13:43
moguimar=P13:43
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/barbican-tempest-plugin master: Remove old pep8 ignores that are no longer necessary  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/barbican-tempest-plugin/+/48144014:02
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