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| openstackgerrit | Fabio Giannetti proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Adding support for health check in Ceilometer API https://review.openstack.org/95817 | 00:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/88506 | 06:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add new 'storage': {'production_ready': True} capability https://review.openstack.org/96752 | 06:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Change using of limit argument in get_sample https://review.openstack.org/93585 | 07:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Change using of limit argument in get_sample https://review.openstack.org/93585 | 08:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Specs for alarm-evaluator-storage-access(WIP) https://review.openstack.org/95418 | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Change using of limit argument in get_sample https://review.openstack.org/93585 | 08:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ildiko Vancsa proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix list of modules not included in auto-gen docs https://review.openstack.org/97268 | 09:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eugeniya Kudryashova proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Use HTTPClient from common Oslo code https://review.openstack.org/68939 | 09:36 |
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| idegtiarov | Hello, to everyone! | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: ceilometer upgrade testing in grenade https://review.openstack.org/98168 | 10:18 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: could you please look through my patch of events feature on HBase when you will have some free time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91408/6 it got +1 fron Jenkins | 10:20 |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: it's on my list :) | 10:21 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: Thank you sir :) | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Fixed typos found by RETF rules https://review.openstack.org/96565 | 10:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Improve performance of libvirt inspector requests https://review.openstack.org/98377 | 11:28 |
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| cdent | eglynn (or anyone): Is it kosher to adopt a patchset that appears mostly abandoned (I'm looking at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90620 ) | 11:57 |
| eglynn | cdent: looking | 11:57 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... the best etiquette I guess would be reach out to the original owner | 11:58 |
| cdent | ✓ | 11:58 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... ask them if they intend to continue shepharding it and if not, do they mind if you adopt | 11:58 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... if no timely response from them, just go ahead | 11:59 |
| cdent | thanks | 11:59 |
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| gordc | ildikov: make a note to the bug regarding middlewares. | 13:19 |
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| ildikov | gordc: looking | 13:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: ceilometer upgrade testing in grenade https://review.openstack.org/98168 | 13:27 |
| ildikov | gordc: thanks for the info, I wasn't 100% sure that it needs modification or it can be safely removed | 13:28 |
| gordc | ildikov: yeah, we ran into this issue at end of icehouse... some projects adopted oslo.messaging and some didn't and some of the code in oslo-incubator that used notifications needed two copies (one to work with openstack/common/rpc and another to work with oslo.messaging) | 13:31 |
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| gordc | i had to pull out middleware in Nova as well: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/784372985907dd88771e4ee1ff32305022b49e78 | 13:33 |
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| ildikov | gordc: yes, I remember some of the mess there, I was just confused, when I checked the nova code, which is still referred by nova_notifier under compute and then checking oslo-incubator, which still contains all of these files and in Ceilo we have a mix now of what was deleted and updated and what not | 13:34 |
| gordc | ildikov: that's why we have you... to clean it all up. :) | 13:34 |
| ildikov | gordc: I checked Nova too in the last days, I was just surprised that few of the Sphinx import errors were real issues... | 13:35 |
| ildikov | gordc: haha, only the doc gap is on my AP list now :) | 13:35 |
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| gordc | ildikov: i don't have the knowledge or patience to figure out sphinx issues.lol | 13:36 |
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| ildikov | gordc: it's more patience I think | 13:37 |
| ildikov | gordc: I used the pymongo source code as reference for formatting best practices as google suggested that one :) | 13:38 |
| ildikov | gordc: I did not have patience either for searching for indentation guideleines in the Sphinx doc ;) | 13:39 |
| gordc | ildikov: that's my life rule: always trust google. | 13:39 |
| ildikov | gordc: except when it finds a doc, which contains the deleted notifier files in Nova... :) | 13:40 |
| gordc | ildikov: lol. you should still trust it. google is always right. | 13:40 |
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| ildikov | gordc: ... of course eglynn pointed out that it was an old Havana doc, but I did not check the date of it on the bottom of the page | 13:42 |
| ildikov | gordc: ... so yes, it was my fault, not google's :) | 13:42 |
| gordc | ildikov: there you go. you're catching on ;) | 13:42 |
| ildikov | gordc: LOL :) | 13:43 |
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| ildikov | gordc: do you use the 'Let me Google that for you' page too? :) | 13:47 |
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| gordc | ildikov: i had to google that first... but yeah i've seen it... i should bookmark it. | 13:50 |
| ildikov | gordc: you definitely should, it can be really useful :) | 13:51 |
| gordc | ildikov: lol i believe that. | 13:51 |
| ildikov | gordc: once I almost sent the answer to my former boss's question with it, but unfortunatelly I was too weak that time to do that :S :) | 13:53 |
| gordc | ildikov: i see why it's your 'former' boss. | 13:53 |
| ildikov | gordc: yeah, I quit finally, that question I mentioned was about the Helvetica typeface, IIRC, but I wasn't his secretary to google this to him, so I just answered that I don't know... | 13:57 |
| gordc | ildikov: hahah. good answer. | 13:58 |
| gordc | heading off to a quick conference call. ttyl | 13:59 |
| ildikov | gordc: ttyl | 13:59 |
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| jd__ | DinaBelova: lol you really should stop playing Captain Obvious like in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80225/ | 14:37 |
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| ildikov | jd__: LOL :) | 14:39 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, well, people really forget sometimes to fix it | 14:41 |
| DinaBelova | one more notification is good imho | 14:41 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, ildikov btw | 14:42 |
| DinaBelova | how do you look on the following: I guess we need to have backends deps in one requirements or test-requirements now | 14:42 |
| DinaBelova | not as it's currenly | 14:42 |
| DinaBelova | when happybase is in requirements | 14:43 |
| DinaBelova | pymongo is in test-requirements | 14:43 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, ildikov - are you ok if I'll move this to the requirements? | 14:43 |
| DinaBelova | and to global-requirements if needed | 14:43 |
| sileht | DinaBelova, yes, happybase should be in test-requirements in ceilometer | 14:44 |
| jd__ | I'm not really opiniated on that actually | 14:44 |
| jd__ | but having everyone in the same place would make sense it sounds | 14:44 |
| sileht | only the default backend should be in requirements.txt | 14:44 |
| DinaBelova | sileht, why test-requirements? IMHO that's still the requirements... | 14:44 |
| DinaBelova | well - it's my opinion still | 14:44 |
| DinaBelova | i have this argument because if you want to use mongo with ceilometer, you need to install it | 14:45 |
| DinaBelova | that's the same discussion we had some time ago... | 14:45 |
| DinaBelova | but it's still weird for me | 14:45 |
| sileht | For packaging point of view, by default, requirements.txt is the list of mandatory deps | 14:45 |
| DinaBelova | and if I want to use ceilo with mongo - isn't it mandatory? | 14:46 |
| sileht | Because tools that help to build rpm/deb do that by default | 14:46 |
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| DinaBelova | because if so, SQLAlchemy should be also moved? | 14:47 |
| DinaBelova | as all other backends | 14:47 |
| DinaBelova | but in other projects it's usually stored in requirements | 14:47 |
| sileht | that depends of which default we have to suggest as developer | 14:48 |
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| DinaBelova | well, I guess we should have the same process for all backends... and even if so - SQL backend is not the recommended one :) | 14:48 |
| sileht | personaly I don't care this is just small library | 14:48 |
| DinaBelova | well, so let's ping ildikov and eglynn and gordc about this :) | 14:49 |
| _nadya_ | sql is mandatory from TC POV | 14:49 |
| DinaBelova | yes, but I guess that is this case we need to process all other backends as sql | 14:50 |
| eglynn | in reality I don't think realistic distros derive their actual dependencies directly from the requirements.txt | 14:50 |
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| eglynn | ... i.e. this is taken more as a guideline | 14:50 |
| eglynn | ... added to, subtracted from, etc. | 14:51 |
| gordc | i'm pretty indifferent. whatever is consistent with other projects. | 14:51 |
| eglynn | ... as opposed to "the gospel" | 14:51 |
| DinaBelova | heh, I simply do not like to see mongo deps in test-requirements, others - in test-requirements | 14:51 |
| DinaBelova | that's not really consistent | 14:51 |
| ildikov | gordc: I share your view | 14:51 |
| cdent | is extras_require in some form an option? | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | I'll ping some other OS folks :) | 14:52 |
| DinaBelova | about their opinion :) | 14:53 |
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| ildikov | DinaBelova: as for the gerrit topic, I think that commenting there again, what Jenkins has already stated is unnecessary and does not help to remember rebasing a patch | 14:56 |
| eglynn | random datapoint ... marconi have both sql-a and pymongo in their requirements.txt https://github.com/openstack/marconi/blob/master/requirements.txt | 14:56 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov, yeah, probably | 14:57 |
| DinaBelova | that's some kind of bad habit | 14:57 |
| eglynn | then again, IIRC from their TC graduation withdrawal, the whole issue of the mongo dependency was problematic | 14:57 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, but if we have it as a backend we'll anyway have this problem | 14:58 |
| DinaBelova | so it does not depend on where to be placed as a requirement | 14:58 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 14:58 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov, I'll try to avoid it | 14:59 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 14:59 |
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| ildikov | DinaBelova: no offence, really, it was just a suggestion | 15:00 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: I can ignore mails, my managers thought me how to do it :) | 15:01 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... so just from a distro PoV, it doesn't really make a great deal of difference where the requirement in expressed | 15:01 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: (in the case of the Red Hat sausage machine at least) | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov, yeah - as said, bad habit from other projects :) | 15:01 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: as the these requirements are "finessed" by hand anyway | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, ok | 15:02 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: :) | 15:02 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, are you ok if i'll place these reqs as it looks more consistent for me? | 15:02 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... e.g. to ensure that pymongo say is only a requirement of the -api & -collector packages | 15:02 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... that takes a human to know that these are the only services that use the DB | 15:02 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... https://github.com/redhat-openstack/openstack-ceilometer/blob/master/openstack-ceilometer.spec#L149 | 15:02 |
| * DinaBelova reading | 15:03 | |
| DinaBelova | yeah, I see it | 15:03 |
| eglynn | note that the RPM requires is a finegrained thing that only applies to selected packages | 15:03 |
| sileht | eglynn, DinaBelova, same for debian, requirements.txt is used only to build the initial template of the package, now the deps are handled manually | 15:03 |
| eglynn | sileht: exactly | 15:03 |
| eglynn | ... so my gut instinct would be not to sweat it :) | 15:04 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, heh :) yeah, I quite agree here - I'm speaking about this cosmetical change because I know at least 5 people who were confused starting working with ceilo and see some backens here, some of them there | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | and currently I met the 6th one - that's why I decided to ask you folks - last time I got no clear result :) | 15:07 |
| cdent | There are also those (rare?) people who want to install from something other than packages. | 15:09 |
| jd__ | congratulations sileht | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | no, they are devs who are using devstack envs sometimes :) | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | cdent so when they want mongo as a backend on devstack env | 15:09 |
| sileht | jd__, thx | 15:10 |
| cmart | like me, for instance | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | it's not so clear to get *why* it's not working | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | cmart, exactly :) | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | and it turns out that mongo dependency is optional some kind :) | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova | that's why I just say that ok - it's cosmetic meaning nothing change - but for the devs it'll be more comfortable | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | especially for the new comers :) | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | cmart, you, for instance | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova | or me :) | 15:11 |
| eglynn | hmmm, here's an idea ... | 15:13 |
| eglynn | use an *optional*-requirements.txt | 15:13 |
| eglynn | taskflow do it | 15:13 |
| eglynn | https://github.com/openstack/taskflow/blob/master/optional-requirements.txt | 15:13 |
| cdent | that's what I was implying by suggesting extras_require | 15:14 |
| cdent | but pbr is too inscrutable to know if it handles extras_require | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, I understood what you were talking about just now :) | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | sorry me :) | 15:15 |
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| eglynn | there was a thread on the ML with context | 15:15 |
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| eglynn | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/027015.html | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I guess that might be nice approach here | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | thanks for sharing this link - did not see it | 15:16 |
| eglynn | yeah, so if we were gonna change, that kind of approach seems like a better way to go | 15:16 |
| cdent | hmmm, this really sounds like exactly what extras_require is designed to solve: you associate optional entry points with the requirements required to satisfy those entry points | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, eglynn - I think we may take a look on how taskflow does it and use their experience here :) | 15:17 |
| * cdent nods | 15:17 | |
| DinaBelova | cdent, cool | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova | thank you folks for the discussion :) | 15:18 |
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| cmart | OK. THAT WAS FAST! | 15:34 |
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