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| nsaje | ping sileht | 05:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhi Kun Liu proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Don't expose X-Auth-Token in ceilometer CLI https://review.openstack.org/106932 | 05:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Zhi Kun Liu proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Don't expose X-Auth-Token in ceilometer CLI https://review.openstack.org/106932 | 05:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/104974 | 06:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | shengjie min proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add the instance uptime as a Ceilometer Meter https://review.openstack.org/104784 | 06:30 |
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| deep | hi, can somebody please help me on setting hbase as backend over devstack. | 07:00 |
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| nsaje | deep: hey, I don't think hbase is supported out-of-the-box on devstack | 07:13 |
| nsaje | deep: looking here I see only SQL and mongo https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ceilometer#L163 | 07:15 |
| deep | how to i test hbase with devstack | 07:16 |
| nsaje | deep: check out http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/configuration.html#hbase and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/install/manual.html#hbase | 07:21 |
| deep | But this i cant try with devstack right.. | 07:22 |
| deep | http://stackalytics.com/report/blueprint/devstack/add-hbase-to-devstack here is something but not sure whats is the status now | 07:23 |
| nsaje | deep: doesn't seem to be implemented yet, nope | 07:38 |
| deep | ohk..thanks nsaje | 07:38 |
| nsaje | deep: (you might want to include a person's name in the message on IRC, so that the person gets a notification about the reply :-) ) | 07:39 |
| deep | nsaje: ok..will remember :) | 07:39 |
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| boris-42 | eglynn-officehi | 08:29 |
| boris-42 | eglynn-office hi | 08:29 |
| boris-42 | ildikov hi | 08:29 |
| nsaje | don't think eglynn-office is here | 08:33 |
| boris-42 | nsaje hehe=) | 08:49 |
| boris-42 | nsaje thanks | 08:49 |
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| nsaje | ildikov: ping | 09:11 |
| eglynn | ildikov: you wanted to chat about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106088/3/specs/juno/dispatcher-for-gnocchi-integration.rst ? | 09:19 |
| eglynn | ildikov: ... so WRT the generation of the entity ID as an inferrable value such as meter_name-resource_uuid | 09:19 |
| eglynn | ... yeah I actually suggested that at summit so as to avoid the need for the two-step calls into the gnocchi API to push a single datapoint | 09:20 |
| eglynn | ... can't recall exactly why jd__ thought it was a bad idea, it may have been just that he didn't want to pre-suppose that all entities are associated with resources | 09:22 |
| eglynn | ... or maybe preferred a convenience API operation of form: POST /v1/resource/UUID/entity/{entity.name}/measures | 09:22 |
| jd__ | yeah the main thing I think was that entities and resources are in N to N relationship | 09:23 |
| jd__ | if we change that we can simplify the model | 09:23 |
| jd__ | though having /v1/resource/UUID/entity/{entity.name}/measures is not tied to that | 09:23 |
| jd__ | we can resolve it even with N-N | 09:23 |
| jd__ | having the proper data model and having a easy way to query/manipulate it are 2 distincts things | 09:24 |
| jd__ | -s | 09:24 |
| eglynn | jd__: cool, so in terms of how the dispatcher approach should proceed ... | 09:25 |
| eglynn | step #1: use the sub-optimal two-step GET resource, POST entity | 09:25 |
| eglynn | step #2: replace that with single call to convenience operation POST /v1/resource/UUID/entity/{entity.name}/measures | 09:26 |
| jd__ | yep | 09:26 |
| jd__ | I'm adding /v1/resource/UUID/entity/{entity.name}/measures to my TODO | 09:26 |
| eglynn | jd__: cool, thank you sir! | 09:27 |
| * eglynn pastes IRC discussion into gerrit ... | 09:27 | |
| jd__ | why do I sense that the notification schema thread on the list is going to fall flat | 09:29 |
| jd__ | business as usual | 09:29 |
| eglynn | jd__: well yeah, the thread went into the weeds a bit alright | 09:31 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... but I've discussed it a bit off-line with cdent | 09:31 |
| jd__ | I'm especially afraid when people start talking about specs | 09:31 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... he's gonna come back with a more concrete proposal | 09:31 |
| jd__ | like bureaucracy is going to help | 09:31 |
| eglynn | jd__: the idea is to get it off the ML and one step closer to writing actual code | 09:32 |
| jd__ | eglynn: if cdent's gonna work on this it'll be great though don't get me wrong | 09:32 |
| jd__ | I'm just getting tired of seeing people (not you) putting energy into discussing subject over and over again and getting the things done once and for all :) | 09:33 |
| eglynn | jd__: cool enough ... it's gonna need buy-in from the producer side (nova esp.) and the other consumers | 09:33 |
| jd__ | s/and/and not/ | 09:33 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... so some prior discussion in inevitable, but yeah totally agreed, we don't want that discussion to become the displacement activity | 09:34 |
| jd__ | yeah my idea was to furtively introduce the validation mechanism in oslo.messaging and then enable it | 09:34 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... BTW re. markmc's question about specific cases where nova notification changes broke us | 09:35 |
| jd__ | (i.e. my plan is most of the time to circumvent discussion entirely and to deal with issue when they happen) | 09:35 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... can you recall any specific cases where that happened? | 09:35 |
| * eglynn is pretty sure it has, just can't remember ... | 09:35 | |
| jd__ | eglynn: tons of time but it's very subtil | 09:35 |
| jd__ | because most of the time we just ended up with empty metadata | 09:35 |
| jd__ | so you'd have less useful samples generated | 09:36 |
| jd__ | just because we wouldn't copy the right field | 09:36 |
| jd__ | and we also have a bunch of Neutron changed that broke us in the last months too | 09:36 |
| jd__ | s/changed/changes/ | 09:36 |
| jd__ | for some of these Neutron problems I think we had bug reports | 09:36 |
| eglynn | jd__: a-ha, cool ... I'll dig for the neutron changes | 09:36 |
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| eglynn | jd__: so if you can think of peices of nova metadata that went MIA in the past, that would be good too | 09:37 |
| jd__ | what point are you trying to make? | 09:38 |
| jd__ | if any I mean | 09:38 |
| ildikov | eglynn: jd__: sorry guys, I was interrupted, but I'm here now | 09:38 |
| eglynn | ildikov: I copied the relevant chatter into gerrit | 09:38 |
| ildikov | eglynn: cool, thanks | 09:39 |
| eglynn | jd__: "what point are you trying to make?" ==> I just wanted to respond to markmc's request for specifics on that thread | 09:41 |
| jd__ | eglynn: ok fair enough :) | 09:41 |
| eglynn | jd__: (... my own memory being a bit hazy on that point) | 09:41 |
| jd__ | I thought you were trying to convince someone, but markmc's not gonna be an issue indeed | 09:41 |
| jd__ | :) | 09:41 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeah, he's on board with the idea I think, he's just probing the edges of the motivating case IIUC | 09:42 |
| jd__ | sure | 09:42 |
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| nsaje | ildikov: ping | 10:57 |
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| ildikov | nsaje: hi | 11:00 |
| ildikov | nsaje: sorry, messed up day as always | 11:00 |
| nsaje | ildikov: I think the transformers are too poorly documented. Where should I put more documentation / parameter description / configuration examples? In the docs/configuration.rst or in the transformer class docstring? | 11:02 |
| ildikov | nsaje: TBH, te best place would be the admin-guide, which is in progress by me currently :) | 11:03 |
| nsaje | here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/configuration.html#pipeline-configuration or here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/sourcecode/ceilometer/ceilometer.transformer.conversions.html | 11:03 |
| ildikov | nsaje: so, I think the configuration.rst should contain the how to use and configure it and also the example | 11:03 |
| nsaje | ah! | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Mizielski proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Correct misspelled words https://review.openstack.org/106977 | 11:03 |
| ildikov | nsaje: you can add a Transformers sunbsection under the Pipeline section | 11:04 |
| nsaje | ildikov: ok. I'd like to have an example for each type of transformer, ok? currently, only rate_of_change is demonstrated | 11:04 |
| ildikov | nsaje: as for the docstring in the sourcecode, it should contain all the information that a developer would need to understand or modify each function | 11:04 |
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| nsaje | ildikov: I agree, doesn't make sense to put configuration examples in docstrings | 11:05 |
| ildikov | nsaje: as for the examples, it's fine to have more | 11:08 |
| ildikov | nsaje: I plan to refactor the docco, but for that task I need the admin-guide to be ready finally, so if you put every info into the developer doc, it's fine with me | 11:08 |
| ildikov | nsaje: and it should be considered if it requires a DocImpact tag in the commit message, when you have some code to push for review | 11:10 |
| ildikov | nsaje: anyway, we will see, I think what we agreed in above should be fine as a first step :) | 11:10 |
| nsaje | ildikov: do you mean code for the arithmetic transformer? It'll probably need DocImpact, yes. But I'll improve the doc for other transformers as well in a separate patch | 11:10 |
| ildikov | nsaje: a-ha, ok, yes I meant the arithmetic transformer code | 11:11 |
| ildikov | nsaje: as for the simple doc improvement, it's always welcomed :) | 11:11 |
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| eglynn | vrovachev: just wondering if you'd any joy with that trempest issue, i.e. the timeout in the nova notification test? | 11:40 |
| vrovachev | eglynn: hello, timeout in the nova notification test equal 196 sec, in gate jobs(hardware 8 CPUs, 8GB RAM) mas duration for add any notification to ceilometer with backend postgre with tempest concurrency 4 is 10-20 sec | 11:46 |
| vrovachev | mas-> max | 11:46 |
| vrovachev | I depart for a half hour for lunch | 11:47 |
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| nsaje | jd__: can you take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106993/ ? Just fixes a typo in the code, but a far-reaching one :-) | 12:02 |
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| jd__ | nsaje: nice one | 12:08 |
| nsaje | jd__: I hope this is the culprit of the rpc timeouts in the gate | 12:08 |
| eglynn | nsaje gets the prize for eagle-eyes! :) | 12:14 |
| nsaje | eglynn: :-) | 12:15 |
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| eglynn | nsaje: can I be a pest and ask that you file a bug against olso-messaging and update the commit message on your patch? | 12:17 |
| eglynn | nsaje: (might just make it easier to trigger a release on the oslo-messaging side) | 12:17 |
| nsaje | eglynn: sure, no problem | 12:17 |
| eglynn | nsaje: thank you sir! | 12:18 |
| nsaje | eglynn: should've done that in the first place, sorry | 12:18 |
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| eglynn | nsaje: no problem, great catch BTW! :) | 12:18 |
| nsaje | eglynn: thanks! let's hope it solves the problem, otherwise I'll need to keep lookin' :D | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Improves pipeline transformer documentation https://review.openstack.org/107023 | 12:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Multi meter arithmetic transformer https://review.openstack.org/106302 | 12:52 |
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| nsaje | jd__: can you re-approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106993/ please? | 12:54 |
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| jd__ | nsaje: done | 13:13 |
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| jd__ | sileht: mind checking tooz reviews? | 13:23 |
| sileht | jd__, almost | 13:25 |
| jd__ | :-) | 13:26 |
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| boris-42 | jd__ _nadya_ thank you guys for review | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Dispatcher for Gnocchi Integration https://review.openstack.org/106088 | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Spec for metering VPNaaS https://review.openstack.org/95781 | 15:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: [Hbase] Add column for source filter in _get_meter_samples https://review.openstack.org/100558 | 15:16 |
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| boris-42 | eglynn around? | 15:50 |
| eglynn | boris-42: that depends on why you're asking ;) | 15:51 |
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| boris-42 | eglynn to take a look on new profiling visualization tool | 15:51 |
| boris-42 | eglynn http://boris-42.github.io/profiler/ | 15:51 |
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| eglynn | boris-42: nice! | 15:52 |
| eglynn | boris-42: are there more example interactions, other than that cinder one? | 15:52 |
| boris-42 | eglynn there are | 15:52 |
| eglynn | boris-42: cool | 15:52 |
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| boris-42 | eglynn but I am too lazy lol=) | 15:53 |
| boris-42 | eglynn I will make somethgin with glance & cinder and nova | 15:53 |
| eglynn | boris-42: that would rock! :) | 15:54 |
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| boris-42 | eglynn btw it has already 2+ x2 | 15:54 |
| boris-42 | eglynn https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103420/ | 15:54 |
| boris-42 | eglynn could you put workflow +1 pls?) | 15:54 |
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| mnaser | is it safe to start a couple more ceilometer-collector instances on the same machine? | 16:16 |
| sbfox | Hey ceilometer folks, I have a question that not clear from the docs. can a tenant publish sample data from within their instances? | 16:16 |
| mnaser | # rabbitmqctl list_queues | grep ceilometer.collector.metering | 16:16 |
| mnaser | ceilometer.collector.metering5972749 | 16:16 |
| mnaser | that kinda happened, currently 2 machines but it looks like there is a single process only running | 16:16 |
| mnaser | if i can start a couple more instances it'll probably chug it faster but i dont want to potentially break any things | 16:16 |
| eglynn | sbfox: not without somehow injecting a keystone token into the instance, and then cycling that every hour | 16:23 |
| eglynn | sbfox: ... or else following the kind of credentials propogation pattern used by Heat http://hardysteven.blogspot.ie/2014/04/heat-auth-model-updates-part-2-stack.html | 16:23 |
| eglynn | sbfox: ... neither are good/workable options currently, so I think the answer is "no" | 16:23 |
| sbfox | Thanks eglynn, thats what I figured but wanted to clear it up. So given that, what is the user metadata for? | 16:24 |
| eglynn | sbfox: well, for anything *static* that you like ... one use would be to represent instance membership of an autoscaling group | 16:25 |
| sbfox | Ah ok, got it | 16:25 |
| sbfox | Thanks | 16:25 |
| eglynn | sbfox: but instance user metadata can't be used to inject keystone token, due to the expiry problem | 16:25 |
| eglynn | sbfox: np! | 16:25 |
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| cdent | eglynn: some rough notes from today's ironic+ceilo stuff. summary: our side is close save a few refinements in the data being sent and getting the ironic code caught up with modern times: https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/20140715 | 16:46 |
| eglynn | cdent: cool, /me reads ... | 16:46 |
| boris-42 | eglynn btw | 16:50 |
| boris-42 | eglynn I replied on your commnet=) | 16:50 |
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| cdent | and other thing eglynn : coud you cause a reverify on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106385/ please | 16:50 |
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| eglynn | cdent: done | 16:50 |
| cdent | thanks | 16:51 |
| eglynn | cdent: interesting ... start=2014-07-15T16:13:53.848000 end=2014-07-15T16:31:21.645000 in that example, for 4 samples | 17:01 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... what the default IPMI polling period on the Ironic side I wonder? | 17:01 |
| cdent | It's ten minutes but I changed it to 60 seconds so I didn't have to wait | 17:01 |
| cdent | _but_ | 17:01 |
| cdent | the ipmitool takes over 5 minutes to run | 17:01 |
| cdent | (at least sometimes) | 17:02 |
| cdent | which is a problem lucas is aware of | 17:02 |
| cdent | and shouldn't happen in "real life" | 17:02 |
| eglynn | cdent: a-ha, I should have realized that you speed up the cadence to avoid waiting around | 17:02 |
| eglynn | cdent: interesting ... so that 5 minute delay is an artifact of the poseur setup, or an actual real IPMI interface you're testing against? | 17:03 |
| cdent | It appears to be a combination of the poseur and the nature of the protocol going over the oceans | 17:04 |
| cdent | someone closer to the server was getting much better times (under a minute) | 17:04 |
| cdent | and lucas as getting around a minute | 17:05 |
| cdent | so it is mostly a network artifact | 17:05 |
| eglynn | "over the oceans" ... UK -> Brno, right? | 17:05 |
| cdent | it's not in brno | 17:05 |
| cdent | they want to get one in brno | 17:06 |
| cdent | this one is in boston | 17:06 |
| eglynn | a-ha, a *big* ocean | 17:07 |
| eglynn | so, I guess even the minute seems long to me, I wonder how that scales with a each ironic conductor responsible for 10 or 20 or 50 nodes each | 17:08 |
| cdent | Yeah, I asked that in my comments on the ironic-side patchset | 17:09 |
| cdent | got no response | 17:09 |
| cdent | I'm guessing the protocol is probably a bit weird when it has to go up an osi-layer | 17:10 |
| eglynn | yeah, possibly I guess | 17:13 |
| cdent | but it is a concern | 17:13 |
| cdent | but: make it work, then make it fast? | 17:13 |
| eglynn | cdent: absolutely! :) | 17:25 |
| cdent | bbl | 17:28 |
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| mnaser | # ceilometer statistics -m instance -q 'project_id=d7594b0298b54bcc9e4e0f252e1da2e4;timestamp>2014-06-15T00:00:00;timestamp<=2014-07-01T00:00:00' -g resource_id | 20:20 |
| mnaser | WARNING (http:173) Request returned failure status. | 20:20 |
| mnaser | HTTPException (HTTP N/A) | 20:20 |
| mnaser | this isnt normal, is it..? | 20:21 |
| mnaser | looks like the mongodb server isnt keeping up perhaps? | 20:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Spec for metering FWaaS https://review.openstack.org/95779 | 21:27 |
| sbfox | Hey ceilometer folks, the dev docs (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/measurements.html) say lbaas meters are available but blueprints suggest this is a Juno feature. Is there a diffinitive list of meters that are available for collection in icehouse and how to enable them? | 21:35 |
| sbfox | specifically this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ceilometer-meter-lbaas | 21:36 |
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| eglynn | sbfox: LBaaS is definitely Juno-only | 21:43 |
| sbfox | So is there a definitive list for Icehouse? | 21:44 |
| sbfox | This is about my only gripe across all projects, its pretty hard to figure out what is a current vs planned feature | 21:45 |
| eglynn | sbfox: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/stable/icehouse/doc/source/measurements.rst | 21:45 |
| sbfox | Thanks! | 21:46 |
| eglynn | np! | 21:46 |
| eglynn | good night all! | 21:46 |
| sbfox | nn | 21:46 |
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