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| openstackgerrit | Nejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add cumulative and gauge to aggregator transformer https://review.openstack.org/108315 | 05:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/104974 | 06:07 |
| nsaje | jd__: ping | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Alarms making use of Gnocchi https://review.openstack.org/109581 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Nejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add cumulative and gauge to aggregator transformer https://review.openstack.org/108315 | 07:20 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Automatic discovery of TripleO Overcloud hardware https://review.openstack.org/92370 | 07:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhai, Edwin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec for IPMI support https://review.openstack.org/104460 | 07:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhai, Edwin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec for IPMI support https://review.openstack.org/104460 | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer-specs: snmp-improvement spec https://review.openstack.org/104113 | 08:17 |
| eglynn | llu: ^^^ \o/ :) | 08:25 |
| eglynn | llu: BTW I linked https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/snmp-improvement to the spec, targetted for juno-3 and marked the implementation status as "slow progress" | 08:26 |
| eglynn | llu: (but if "good progress" would be more accurate, please update LP) | 08:27 |
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| jd__ | nsaje: don't empty ping | 08:45 |
| nsaje | jd__: you're right, sorry :) I have an interesting idea for tooz | 08:47 |
| nsaje | jd__: what about a backend that introduces no new deployment requirements? Just oslo.messaging and the Paxos algorithm: https://github.com/cocagne/paxos | 08:48 |
| nsaje | jd__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxos_%28computer_science%29 | 08:49 |
| eglynn | hmmm, if ZK is currently seen as a barrier-to-adoption for tooz (?) ... that could be an interesting approach | 08:50 |
| sileht | eglynn, nsaje I have added my though about the AlarmPublisher, let me know WDYT | 08:56 |
| nsaje | sileht: thanks for the review, I'll check it out! | 08:56 |
| eglynn | sileht: thanks! ... I'll check gerrit shortly | 08:57 |
| jd__ | nsaje: for tooz? why not | 08:57 |
| jd__ | poinf ot tooz is to have options, so having a new choice is a good idea | 08:58 |
| jd__ | even if it's not as solid as ZK | 08:58 |
| nsaje | jd__: ZK is based on Paxos, so perhaps there won't be so many shortcomings | 09:00 |
| nsaje | on a variant of it, at least | 09:00 |
| jd__ | nsaje: I'm still pretty sure a cluster of synchronized ZK is going to be better than your poor Rabbit broker | 09:01 |
| jd__ | nsaje: but well it can be better than memcached, so it might be a good in-between option | 09:01 |
| nsaje | jd__: hehe, true :) | 09:01 |
| jd__ | so definitely OK if you want to go to that road | 09:02 |
| jd__ | I'll review :-) | 09:02 |
| nsaje | great! | 09:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enhancing the make_test_data script https://review.openstack.org/102502 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding init into tools folder https://review.openstack.org/109946 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding script for TripleO default set of test data https://review.openstack.org/109947 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix make_test_data tools script https://review.openstack.org/109944 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Extracting make_resource_metadata method https://review.openstack.org/109945 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ana Malagon proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Gnocchi Custom Aggregation https://review.openstack.org/106830 | 09:08 |
| nsaje | sileht: I replied to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109581/ , interesting idea! | 09:16 |
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| amalagon | hey eglynn you around? | 09:23 |
| eglynn | amalagon: yep, but in a meeting | 09:24 |
| eglynn | amalagon: is it quick? | 09:24 |
| eglynn | amalagon: if not, can we punt to the top of the hour? | 09:24 |
| amalagon | sure! | 09:24 |
| eglynn | amalagon: thanks, ttyt! | 09:24 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, /me proposed changes to the infra-config and devstack-gate | 09:42 |
| DinaBelova | to enable mongodb job | 09:42 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I'll ask Vadim to test it locally first of all | 09:42 |
| DinaBelova | to be sure it's running actually | 09:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 09:44 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: cool, BTW did you notice Jim Blair's mention of experimental mongodb-based jobs in that future-of-qa thread? | 09:45 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/041057.html | 09:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 09:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Igor Degtiarov proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implement redesigned separator in names of columns in HBase https://review.openstack.org/106376 | 09:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 10:03 |
| * eglynn wonders if https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sahara/+spec/ceilometer-integration should really have been a ceilometer BP? | 10:11 | |
| eglynn | i.e. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/sahara-integration | 10:11 |
| eglynn | amalagon: o/ | 10:11 |
| amalagon | o/ | 10:11 |
| eglynn | amalagon: sorry, I missed your question earlier | 10:12 |
| amalagon | np - I wanted ot ask you about this error msg I'm running into (http://paste.openstack.org/show/88873/) when trying to use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103435/ | 10:14 |
| * eglynn looks | 10:14 | |
| eglynn | amalagon: you know what, I suspect that may just be fall-out from the recent changes to carbonara | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 10:15 |
| amalagon | eglynn: oic | 10:15 |
| eglynn | amalagon: did the entity involved *pre-exist* your rebase to the latest carbonara/swift version that recently landed? | 10:15 |
| eglynn | amalagon: if so, I'd just blow away the pre-existing entities and start afresh | 10:16 |
| eglynn | amalagon: (with newly created entities) | 10:16 |
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| eglynn | amalagon: is that plausible? | 10:16 |
| amalagon | eglynn: gotcha; ok, thanks - I'll start afresh | 10:16 |
| eglynn | amalagon: cool ... gimme a shout if that turns out not to be the source of the error | 10:17 |
| amalagon | will do! | 10:17 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, about Sahara - I guess that's because there are lots of things to enter to the Sahara code... Dunno really | 10:20 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, ^^ | 10:20 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: fair enough, we've had ceilo BPs in the past where the code was actually landing elsewhere (e.g. in grenade) | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Keisuke Yamamoto proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Publish samples on other threads. The bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1337761) reports that "publish_sample" is a main cause of performance degradation as a result of re-measurement without the "self.publish_sample()" execution. The publis https://review.openstack.org/110257 | 10:21 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: (but sometimes can make more sense for tracking purposes to have the BP associated with the project which will be accepting the bulk of the code changes) | 10:22 |
| nsaje | sileht: oslo.messaging doesn't use ACKs on RPC casts, does it? | 10:23 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, I believe this way is also logical | 10:23 |
| eglynn | lsmola: don't think this patch series needs a BP https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109944 | 10:26 |
| eglynn | lsmola: but could you file an RFE-style bug in launchpad for tracking purposes? | 10:26 |
| eglynn | lsmola: (and then link from the commit messages in the patch series) | 10:26 |
| lsmola | eglynn: yes I guess it could be good | 10:27 |
| lsmola | eglynn: blueprint might be probably better | 10:27 |
| lsmola | eglynn: ok, will do | 10:27 |
| eglynn | lsmola: you think it warrants a BP? | 10:27 |
| eglynn | lsmola: ... if so, then you'll need to propose a spec to ceilometer-specs as per the new process | 10:28 |
| lsmola | eglynn: the last patch in a row, I guess so | 10:28 |
| lsmola | eglynn: i think blueprint tracks better multiple patches inside | 10:28 |
| lsmola | eglynn: ah | 10:28 |
| lsmola | eglynn: and bug it is :-) | 10:29 |
| eglynn | lsmola: LOL :) | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Enable some tests against py33 https://review.openstack.org/110027 | 10:32 |
| cdent | Somebody care to tell me the genesis of assertEqual(expected, actual) when the opposite seems to make more sense? | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix dict and set order related issues in tests https://review.openstack.org/109994 | 10:42 |
| cdent | Happy to oblige, just find it confusing. | 10:42 |
| sileht | nsaje, the rabbit ack is sent just before the sample is passed to ceilometer, then after the ceilometer have handled the sample, a reply is to the rpc server, but the current impl in oslo.messaging ignore the reply | 10:42 |
| sileht | nsaje, so if ceilometer fail to write the sample to the DB, the sample is lost | 10:43 |
| nsaje | sileht: is there any particular reason for that? Why not ack when the endpoint finishes execution? | 10:43 |
| sileht | nsaje, we need to use notification instead of rpc.cast, the sample stay on the queue if ceilometer raise a exception | 10:44 |
| nsaje | sileht: but why is rpc.cast implemented the way it is? Why not support retries? | 10:44 |
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| sileht | nsaje, rpc.cast is just rpc.call for many hosts, in ceilometer we have using it instead of notification system because the notification code was not ready | 10:46 |
| sileht | nsaje, but now we can use notification, I have already submitted a patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80225/ | 10:47 |
| sileht | nsaje, I will removed the dep of this patches, (because the dep depends of oslo.msg 1.4), so we can quicly merged it | 10:48 |
| sileht | nsaje, using notification instead of rpc.cast will increase the ceilometer collector performance | 10:48 |
| nsaje | sileht: aren't notifications fanout? | 10:49 |
| nsaje | sileht: what about horizontally scaling the collector then? | 10:49 |
| nsaje | sileht: or perhaps I'm just confused by the terminology | 10:49 |
| sileht | bbl (phone call) | 10:50 |
| nsaje | ttyl | 10:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Keisuke Yamamoto proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Publish samples on other threads. The bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1337761) reports that "publish_sample" is a main cause of performance degradation as a result of re-measurement without the "self.publish_sample()" execution. The publis https://review.openstack.org/110257 | 11:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Keisuke Yamamoto proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Publish samples on other threads. The bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1337761) reports that "publish_sample" is a main cause of performance degradation as a result of re-measurement without the "self.publish_sample()" execution. The publ https://review.openstack.org/110257 | 11:00 |
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| sileht | nsaje, we don't use/need fanout in publisher, | 11:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow tests to run outside tox https://review.openstack.org/110262 | 11:13 |
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| nsaje | sileht: sorry, I meant publish/subscribe, not fanout | 11:14 |
| sileht | nsaje, the difference between oslo.msg.rpc.cast and oslo.msg.notification-listener/notifier are: | 11:16 |
| sileht | * notification doesn't send a reply | 11:16 |
| sileht | * notification ack message on the queue after the application callback have successed | 11:17 |
| sileht | * the queue for notification exists even no consumer already exists | 11:17 |
| nsaje | sileht: a-ha, ok, I was under the impression that notifications were publish/subscribe | 11:18 |
| nsaje | sileht: intuitively, I would expect cast to do those things, while notifications would be something meant for a wider audience, i.e. for anyone who's listening | 11:19 |
| sileht | nsaje, the notifier (client part that send the notification message) is also for a wider audience | 11:22 |
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| sileht | nsaje, the design of the notification-listener (server part that subscribe/consume notification message) have been focused for ceilometer use-case | 11:23 |
| nsaje | sileht: but if the notifications are actually 'consumed' from the queue, how can a tool like StackTach coexist with Ceilometer, listening for notifications from Nova? They'll each get half the notifications! | 11:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enhancing the make_test_data script https://review.openstack.org/102502 | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding init into tools folder https://review.openstack.org/109946 | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding script for TripleO default set of test data https://review.openstack.org/109947 | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix make_test_data tools script https://review.openstack.org/109944 | 11:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Extracting make_resource_metadata method https://review.openstack.org/109945 | 11:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Remove redudent space in doc string https://review.openstack.org/109850 | 11:28 |
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| nsaje | sileht: but yes, I see the need for consuming so we can actually scale out notification-agent | 11:33 |
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| ildikov | cdent: the answer to your question is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1277104 | 11:36 |
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| cdent | Thanks ildikov | 11:39 |
| ildikov | cdent: np | 11:40 |
| * cdent would call that a bug in the test harness ;) | 11:40 | |
| cdent | I think in this sentence: assert that what I got is what I wanted | 11:41 |
| cdent | I guess I agree with this guy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1277104/comments/7 | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Permit usage of notifications for metering https://review.openstack.org/80225 | 11:55 |
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| ildikov | cdent: it was easier to fix it in our side, after you get used to the other way, it will not be such a big pain | 11:59 |
| * cdent nods | 12:00 | |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add testcase for multiple discovery-driven sources https://review.openstack.org/105139 | 12:08 |
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| admin0 | hello | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor filter code in sql backend https://review.openstack.org/110151 | 12:46 |
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| eglynn | ildikov, DinaBelova, gordc, cdent: FYI the TC will be reviewing progress on the gap coverage actions at the meeting this evening | 13:41 |
| eglynn | ... can you folks cast a quick eye over https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TechnicalCommittee/Ceilometer_Gap_Coverage | 13:41 |
| eglynn | ... and sanity-check the changes I've just made to reflect slippage from j2->j3? | 13:42 |
| cdent | based on what I know looks okay | 13:43 |
| eglynn | cdent: cool | 13:43 |
| gordc | eglynn: looks fine to me... is there a specific requirement for action on item 4 for sql? | 13:44 |
| gordc | i'd like Bayer's opinion but cdent has convinced me somewhat to disregard my original plan | 13:45 |
| eglynn | gordc: well, I guess just completion of big-data-sql part 2 | 13:45 |
| ildikov | eglynn: looks ok to me | 13:45 |
| cdent | That wasn't really quite my intention gordc, more to try and clarify, but if that's the way it went, that's fair too. | 13:45 |
| gordc | cdent: no, i think it's good. if i can't justify it than i probably shouldn't be doing it. | 13:46 |
| gordc | cdent: i need to think a bit more about it... kinda been scattered all over the place for the past week. | 13:46 |
| eglynn | gordc: so is https://review.openstack.org/101009 likely to be re-worked? (as opposed to superceeded by a plan B) | 13:47 |
| * eglynn has linked https://review.openstack.org/101009 in that wiki page | 13:47 | |
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| gordc | eglynn: i think it requires a bit more vetting... tbh, after items cdent brought to my attention, i definitely need to change design... not sure how much yet. | 13:49 |
| gordc | eglynn: i wouldn't expect anything larger in scale... possibly less in scale tbh | 13:50 |
| eglynn | gordc: cool, so let's leave that review there on the plan as the "placeholder" for the next step | 13:51 |
| eglynn | gordc: ... BTW is Mike being responsive to your requests for input? | 13:51 |
| gordc | eglynn: i didn't get around to pinging him yet. not sure what his irc handle is. | 13:51 |
| eglynn | gordc: zzzeek is his usual nick, but I don't see him online right now | 13:53 |
| gordc | ok. i'll keep an eye out for that. | 13:53 |
| * eglynn checks internal PTO calendar | 13:53 | |
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| eglynn | gordc: prolly an idea to try catching him today or tmrw, as he appears to be on PTO from Jul 31st to Aug 7th | 13:55 |
| gordc | eglynn: ok. i'll try to grab him today. | 13:55 |
| eglynn | gordc: cool, thanks! | 13:55 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, about tempest testing - we got pack of them merged today :) so we're close as never :) | 13:59 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, integration testing part in the docco looks ok | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add notifications for identity CRUD events https://review.openstack.org/109616 | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Integration Sahara with Ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/110249 | 14:05 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: sorry missed your ping earlier on Tempest | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, np :) | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | I was afk and saw you asked about gap coverage status | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn - that's why I've pinged you | 15:13 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: cool, so I see the glance notification test landed, nice one! | 15:14 |
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| DinaBelova | yeah, finally :) | 15:14 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: one question though ... I'm wondering for which specific testcase we needed the proposed agent restart (with accelerated polling interval in the pipeline.yaml) | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, it was for the pollsters scenario testing | 15:16 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... i.e. is there an existing testcase stalled by the slow 10min out-of-the-box interval, or is it more a future-looking requirement? | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | future-looking | 15:16 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: a-ha, got it, thanks for the confirmation | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | no problem :) | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | the thing is that we need think about this moment and discuss it, to be sure these tests will go to the upstream | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | they'll work now, but I doubt they'll be approved without some long-term strategy | 15:17 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: so from Matt's reaction to ildikov's ML thread on agent restart, we may have to rethink that restart idea | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes, for sure - I just wanted to be sure that we keep in mind this issue and wish of QA folks to avoid extra load on services api | 15:18 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: one possibility is to punt these kind of tests to the new in-tree functional test suite (that the QA team are proposing will take some of the load off Tempest) | 15:18 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: though TBH I can't see that getting fully built out before Kilo | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | yes, that's the issue.. | 15:19 |
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